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My very First Self Bow

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Lastmohecken 08-Apr-24
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From: Lastmohecken
Date: 08-Apr-24

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And no, I didn't make it, I bought it from a local bow maker, who I met at the Cane Creek 3D shoot. It's an Osage Orange, 46#'s @ 28". I shot several bows that he had completed. He had a lot of billets and several roughed-out bows, waiting to be tillered and finished.

He had a couple of others that were really nice but I seemed to shoot this one the best.

He lets most of his bow staves season for 2 years or better before he make a bow out of them. Anyway, I wanted to get my feet wet, and start shooting a selfbow, in the current 3D Trad shoots, I am starting to go to. He had a really nice Hickory bow roughed out, that I could have gotten worth the money, and finished myself, but I passed on it for now.

So, here's a few pictures, I will be posting. This bow didn't even have a nocking point on it when I got it, today. I added that first thing. I do think I will probably modify the shelf on this bow, to a little more rounded profile. He normally doesn't cut shelfs into his bows, but this one he did.

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 08-Apr-24

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Date: 08-Apr-24

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Date: 08-Apr-24

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He used overlays on the tips, and cuts grooves only in the overlays, he told me.

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Date: 08-Apr-24




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Date: 08-Apr-24

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I am not very good at taking pictures. But I will post a few more.

From: Stickbow Felty
Date: 08-Apr-24




Beautiful bow enjoy

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Date: 08-Apr-24

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Date: 08-Apr-24

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From: Stick Hippie
Date: 08-Apr-24




Nice job

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 08-Apr-24




This bow has a little bit of deflex, or maybe it's called backset when unstrung. I thought it had a little better cast than a couple of other heavier draw bows he had, but It was probably pretty close, and hard to tell. I felt like I liked the action and draw curve or whatever of this one, the best.

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 08-Apr-24




Thank's guys. Of course, making one myself, is my eventual goal, but this gets me started, at least. It seems to be a really good solid piece of wood, so I think (hope), it will last, and not blow up on me or something, anytime soon.

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 08-Apr-24

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From: Lastmohecken
Date: 08-Apr-24




That last picture is of the back of the bow, and there's not really a flaw or weak spot that I can see. It seems like a really clean piece of Osage, not that I know much about it. I did get to watch him clean up the back of a green stave, the other day, before he sealed it, for seasoning, and he looked like he was really skilled with the drawknife, he was using.

Now, I have to get or build some good wood arrows for it. All I had was carbon Gold Tip Traditionals, to shoot. It shot some full- length 400's pretty good, but likes a heavy arrow, and I like the sound and the feel, of the bow, with a heavy arrow, 650 grains or so, and it shoots that really quite flat out to 20 maybe 23 yards or so.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 08-Apr-24




Nice looking bow. Good luck with it.

From: Don T. Lewis
Date: 08-Apr-24




Nice looking bow. Good luck with it.

From: Benbow
Date: 08-Apr-24




That’s great! Looks like fun.

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 08-Apr-24




Thanks,

From: bentstick54
Date: 09-Apr-24




Nice looking bow. Hopefully you enjoy it.

From: JMartin
Date: 09-Apr-24




Very nice!

From: wooddamon1 Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Apr-24




Nice stick, enjoy!

From: Wayne Hess
Date: 09-Apr-24




As the saying, If Looks could Kill, first time did the trick, Nice

From: tradslinger
Date: 09-Apr-24




a great starting bow to get the feel of a selfbow

From: reb
Date: 09-Apr-24




Nice!

From: Runner
Date: 09-Apr-24




Wouldn't change much about that one. I prefer an angled overlay glue joint so the force is down into the limb rather than all on the overlay.

When you re-work the shelf you may want to bring it down closer to your hand and that will open up the window a bit too. It's a little crowded.

From: Bjrogg
Date: 09-Apr-24




And if you think that’s fun, wait till you shot one you make.

Enjoy

Bjrogg

From: JBM
Date: 09-Apr-24




NEVADA? Can Pls PM me the name of the BOWYER? Mercy BOW-COUP! GOOD HUNTING & BLESSED BE!

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 09-Apr-24




JBM, PM sent.

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 09-Apr-24




Runner, Yes, actually the arrow is touching my index finger, already. But that shelf could probably benefit from a little reworking. I shot it quite a bit today, with a new wood arrow, I made up, out of a Surewood Hunter Shaft, 45-50 spine and at first a 190 grain field point, but shaft was showing weak, so I heated it up and removed and replace with a 160 grain field point, and shortened the arrow slightly. It still shows weak but I didn't really want to shorten the arrow anymore, however, when fletched with 4 left hand 5" feathers it shot great.

That arrow shot fine off of that shelf, but I still will probably work it over, some.

And I asked him about the overlays, and did he ever have issues with them coming off. He said he had problems with a couple of bows a long time ago but changed glue and no problems since. I do like your idea of an angled overlay.

From: the Black Spot
Date: 10-Apr-24




Outstanding!

From: selstickbow
Date: 10-Apr-24




REAL good looking bow!

From: Buzz
Date: 10-Apr-24




Great looking bow.

Enjoy.

From: bentstick54
Date: 10-Apr-24




I would bet if you dropped down to 125 grain point you could drop down to 3 x 4” feathers and reduce your arrow trajectory drop because of less drag. Just my thoughts.

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 10-Apr-24




I don't have any 125 grain points but might try them later. However, I do like a pretty heavy arrow with some FOC. I need to order more shafts, at this point. 125's would have worked good on my current shafts I built out of 45-50 spined Shurwoods, Douglas fir.

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 10-Apr-24




bentstick54, Yes, I am cutting down some 5" to about 4.5" long right now, to finish out the half dozen I am finishing up, for a 3D shoot this saturday. My brace height is really a little low, for longer feathers, in my opinion. I don't have any more shafts at this time, so I am stuck with this combo for right now.

From: bentstick54
Date: 10-Apr-24




For your reference purpose my 45/50 DF arrows cut to 28” to back of point with 125 gr points and 3 -4” feathers will average around 485gr to 500 gr depending on the raw shaft weight.

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 10-Apr-24




Thanks for the info on the arrows. I bet those fly pretty flat. I have made up 6 arrows (all of the shafts I could get quick) I wanted to stay about full length for now, because that is what I have been using, lately. I am shooting a 160 grain tip, 45/50's, again all I could find, locally, except lighter spines, and 4 each LW feathers, cut to about 4.5".

These are flying really good but did bareshaft a little weak. It has a trajectory simular to my longbow with hunting arrows. Weight is about 620 grains give or take a few. I do like the way this bow shoots and sounds, with these heavy arrows. I didn't have any 125 grain points or might have given them a try.

From: Arvin
Date: 10-Apr-24




Good Pyrimid bow design. Should shoot good with little shock.

From: Jberk
Date: 11-Apr-24




Nice job

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 11-Apr-24




Thanks, Yes handshock is not bad at all, but I do shoot fairly heavy arrows.

I like that Pyramid design also. And this bow seems to be maintaining its setback, which I think gives it a little more cast.

From: Arvin
Date: 19-Apr-24




9 grains per pound of draw will make it faster . That’s a good weight for targets if you shoot 3D. I hunt with 11-12 grains per pound of draw.

From: White Falcon
Date: 19-Apr-24




Great work.

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 19-Apr-24




I am shooting 11 to 12 grains per pound with 160 grain field tips.

I just got a couple of cedar shafts in 50 to 55 lb spine. These are about 50 grains lighter than the doug firs I have. Definitely a faster arrow, by a noticeable bit, but trajectory is pretty much the same, until I get out to about 27 yards or so. At 40 yards they shoot about a foot flatter.

From: BigJohn
Date: 20-Apr-24




Nice bow

From: Lastmohecken
Date: 21-Apr-24

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Here's a few pictures of my arrowrest after I re-contoured it and added new leather on there.

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Date: 21-Apr-24

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Date: 21-Apr-24

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Date: 21-Apr-24

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On this last picture, I attempted to show the relationship of the arrow shaft on the rest. I have the string pulled back some, to get the fletching out of the way, better. The brace height is nowhere near as high as it might appear.

I am getting pretty good arrow flight, if I do everything right.





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