Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Lightweight shafts

Messages posted to thread:
Maclean 01-Apr-24
Jon Stewart 01-Apr-24
fdp 01-Apr-24
Maclean 01-Apr-24
fdp 01-Apr-24
Phil Magistro 01-Apr-24
Maclean 01-Apr-24
fdp 01-Apr-24
Draven 01-Apr-24
Buglmin 01-Apr-24
bugsy 49 01-Apr-24
Kansasclipper 01-Apr-24
Stoutstuff 02-Apr-24
Maclean 02-Apr-24
Briar 02-Apr-24
HEXX 02-Apr-24
1buckurout 02-Apr-24
Maclean 02-Apr-24
Wildhog 02-Apr-24
deerhunt51 02-Apr-24
deerhunt51 02-Apr-24
Maclean 02-Apr-24
4t5 02-Apr-24
Rooty 02-Apr-24
Will tell 02-Apr-24
Rooty 02-Apr-24
Jimmyjumpup 02-Apr-24
Maclean 03-Apr-24
Varcher 03-Apr-24
Therifleman 03-Apr-24
Boker2 03-Apr-24
Boker2 03-Apr-24
From: Maclean
Date: 01-Apr-24




I'm looking to build some lightweight arrows for a 40# bow. Trying to achieve 9 gpp for TAW and using 100 - 125 gr. field points, with 3 x 4" shields. I think that rules out anything but carbon? What shafting are you guys using to build lightweight arrows for lower weight bows?

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 01-Apr-24




That rig can use a 1916.

From: fdp
Date: 01-Apr-24




What arrow length? 9gpp isn't exactly what I consider light.

From: Maclean Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 01-Apr-24




Jon, most of the 1916s I've seen are 10 gpi. I would need about 8 gpi or less for a 29" arrow.

fdp, I forgot to mention that I'm shooting 29" arrows. I agree that 9 gpp isn't super light, but I'd be afraid to lighter than 8 gpp and possibly damage my bow?

From: fdp
Date: 01-Apr-24




I wouldn't be afraid to go lighter...but that's just me and not what you asked.

As Jon mentioned, 1916's will work and if you do some research you can find other choices as well.

Just decide what material you want to use and then you can go from there.

From: Phil Magistro
Date: 01-Apr-24




I have several arrows I shoot from my 38# to 42# bows - 1816, 1916, GoldTip Traditional, Big Jim's Dark Timber and Easton Carbon Legacy. I shoot a 28.75" arrow and the lightest I can get is the Eastons at 410 grains with a 150 point (I need the point weight to tune and it matches my broadheads). Dark Timbers are 418 gr. GoldTips come in at 432. 1816 with a 125 gr point are 427. 1916 with a 150 point are 460 gr.

Several of my bows have enough adjustment to shoot 1916 but that's more weight than I want to use.

I wouldn't mind getting to 9gpp but these arrows all work fine and I'm not that interested in adding more shafts to the mix.

From: Maclean Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 01-Apr-24




I would prefer to use aluminum, but I can't find any 1916s that are less than 10 gpi. I can find reasonably priced carbons at about 8 gpi, but if I want lighter the price jumps dramatically.

From: fdp
Date: 01-Apr-24




Look at 1913's and 1914's as well.

From: Draven
Date: 01-Apr-24




If you want a light weight shaft in carbon, look for Victory VForce They are well priced too

https://www.victoryarchery.com/arrows-hunting/vforce/

Good quality for the price you get

https://lancasterarchery.com/products/victory-vforce-245-sport-v6- arrow-shaft

600 spine cut or 500 spine with full length and 150 field point will do it for you.

From: Buglmin
Date: 01-Apr-24




Victory Archery 3dhd arrows. An awesome little lite arrow shaft. And they fly amazing.

From: bugsy 49
Date: 01-Apr-24




20-40 Predator arrows . Been using them for years. For target I shoot a black Bear riser with Sage limbs 30 pound pull. 125 gr field pt. The arrow is 30 inches long. They also tune out of most all of my self bows up to 40 lbs. with different pt. weight. They spine right around 650. For me it is an ideal arrow for low poundage bows.

From: Kansasclipper
Date: 01-Apr-24




My dark timber 700's weigh in at 391 grains with a 145 grain point. They are 30 inches long and I can shoot them out of my Kota Kill-um that is 40 @ 28. With a 125 grain point they would weigh even less and be close to the 9 gpp. Especially if you are able to cut them shorter.

From: Stoutstuff
Date: 02-Apr-24




600 Spine: Gold Tip Velocity/Ultra Lite 5.9gpi, Accmos 6.2mm 5.7gpi.

From: Maclean Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 02-Apr-24




Thanks for all the great feedback fellas.

From: Briar
Date: 02-Apr-24




Three rivers trad only 600's are 7.0 gpi. They are H diameter which is my favorite. Easton axis are also 7.0 and they are x diameter.

From: HEXX
Date: 02-Apr-24




I use 6.3 gr per inch for hunting, when I add 20 gr insert, 20gr nock, 100gr broadhead and backer rod foam, I get around 9 gpp. Unfortunately the shaft was discontinued by Easton. I am waiting for them to make one similar in spine and diameter.

From: 1buckurout
Date: 02-Apr-24




[[["What arrow length? 9gpp isn't exactly what I consider light."]]]

Me either. When did that happen--anyway?

From: Maclean Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 02-Apr-24




[[["When did that happen-- anyway?"]]] I guess it's all relative. I live in the Rocky Mountains and mainly hunt elk. I use hardwood footed doug fir tail tapered shafts with a 225 to 300 gr. broadhead. TAW of +/- 750 gr. which out of my elk weight bows comes to about 14gpp. So to me 9gpp seems light, relative to what I'm used to.

From: Wildhog
Date: 02-Apr-24




I agree with Draven. I started shooting Victory arrows and I really like them so far.

From: deerhunt51
Date: 02-Apr-24




What bow? What draw length? With this information I could help.

From: deerhunt51
Date: 02-Apr-24




Forgot to ask, what string?

From: Maclean Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 02-Apr-24




deerhunt51 - the bow is a Bear Ausable 64", 40@28, DL is 28.25". The string is 18 strands of Spectra, center served with. 024 Halo.

From: 4t5
Date: 02-Apr-24




Kansasclipper x 2

From: Rooty
Date: 02-Apr-24




I got close. 27" 700 axis 75 grain point. 365 if I remember correctly

From: Will tell
Date: 02-Apr-24




5/16 cedars at 40-45 pounds with a Zwickey head weighs 450gr.

From: Rooty
Date: 02-Apr-24




Easton sonic may work. 600 spine is 5.8 grains per inch.

From: Jimmyjumpup Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 02-Apr-24




I bet that arrow drops like a rock at 40 yards.

From: Maclean Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 03-Apr-24




I don't take shots on elk at 40 yards. 20 max, and at that distance it's dead on.

From: Varcher
Date: 03-Apr-24




Gold Tip Warriors 600 spine (5.7 gpi), 29-30 inches or so, 125 grain field point, fletched with 3, 4-inch feathers, plus insert and glue adds up to about 335-340 grains total arrow weight or approximately 8.5 grains per pound on a 40 pound bow.

From: Therifleman
Date: 03-Apr-24




Yep gold tip warriors are pretty light and if you pick the right spine you won't have any problem hitting your desired weight. I also shoot ce predators in 800 spine out of a 40# bow for 360 grs finished. Neither will break the bank.

From: Boker2 Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 03-Apr-24




Black eagle rampage but not sure if they come in a 600 spine.

From: Boker2 Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 03-Apr-24




Ok they don’t but the outlaw is 6.8 and the zombie is 5.7 both in 600 spine.

I have shot the outlaw and like them. They also come with a fletched 3” feather option.





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