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Box call users question

Messages posted to thread:
JusPassin 22-Jan-21
Yooper-traveler 22-Jan-21
4nolz@work 22-Jan-21
4nolz@work 22-Jan-21
fdp 22-Jan-21
Verdeburl 22-Jan-21
JusPassin 22-Jan-21
fdp 22-Jan-21
grizzley21 22-Jan-21
Yeller 22-Jan-21
Rick Barbee 22-Jan-21
Bowmania 22-Jan-21
ishi4 22-Jan-21
JusPassin 22-Jan-21
Crow#2 22-Jan-21
PECO 22-Jan-21
PECO 22-Jan-21
Therifleman 22-Jan-21
grizzley21 22-Jan-21
grizzley21 22-Jan-21
Wapiti - - M. S. 22-Jan-21
Selden Slider 23-Jan-21
JusPassin 23-Jan-21
Ranger Joe 23-Jan-21
Wapiti - - M. S. 29-Jan-21
4nolz@work 29-Jan-21
Realwarrior 29-Jan-21
hunterbob 29-Jan-21
Realwarrior 29-Jan-21
JusPassin 29-Jan-21
mahantango 30-Jan-21
JusPassin 30-Jan-21
White Falcon 30-Jan-21
RymanCat 30-Jan-21
From: JusPassin
Date: 22-Jan-21




Having some recent threads on box calls and turkey calls in general I thought some general discussion on how they work might be good.

The lid or paddle being drug over the edge of the side or sounding board creates a chatter that mimics the bird, so how do we get it to do that?

I had always just chalked the two surfaces to make the "chatter".

I've recently read where some makers coat those surfaces with "chalkboard" paint. A more waterproof/rain friendly method.

Now I was just told by my nephew that he has used rosin on one I made him and it works very well. The kind of stuff bronc riders put on their glove at rodeos.

Anybody have any other methods they use to make their box "talk"?

From: Yooper-traveler
Date: 22-Jan-21




Boxcall X2.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 22-Jan-21




Oil free chalk of any kind

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 22-Jan-21




(wax free) if it has a label on it with a turkey it's overpriced :)

From: fdp
Date: 22-Jan-21




You oughta' see what happens to pretty Maple box call when someone puts red carpenters string line chalk on it.

From: Verdeburl
Date: 22-Jan-21




It was said--oil, or wax free. This is important.

From: JusPassin
Date: 22-Jan-21




Well then you'd have a "red wood" box call.

From: fdp
Date: 22-Jan-21




LOL!!!

From: grizzley21 Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 22-Jan-21




it does matter what kind of chalk you use for box calls,,,

From: Yeller Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 22-Jan-21




I’ve been using white chalk like we had in school since 1966

From: Rick Barbee Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jan-21




The blue pop line chalk works great, and in a pinch ash from the wood stove or fireplace works good also.

Rick

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jan-21




Try some Wild Turkey Liquor. Works on me every time.

Bowmania

From: ishi4
Date: 22-Jan-21




I've tried just about everything but nothing seems to work as well for me as Penns Woods chalk. I can't say why but just seems to produce better resonance.

From: JusPassin
Date: 22-Jan-21




OK guys, what else affects the "chirp"? Someone mentioned the angle of the sounding boards. Is having any angle important? What should it be, 5 degrees, 10 degrees?

From: Crow#2
Date: 22-Jan-21




I would say fiddle rosin ground up into a fine powder would do good.

From: PECO
Date: 22-Jan-21




I used to chalk the lid and the top edge of the box. When I started only chalking the lid, seems to work better.

From: PECO
Date: 22-Jan-21




I used to chalk the lid and the top edge of the box. When I started only chalking the lid, seems to work better.

From: Therifleman
Date: 22-Jan-21




Tuning these things is as much an art as getting music out of a stringed instrument. Every call I've handled seems to have its own pitch. Some really sound great to me, but im not sure it matters as much to the turkeys. Ive heard some great sounding hens in the woods that sounded as good as a pro caller, but ive also heard hens that call worse than i do. Like the boxcalls, every bird sounds a bit different. I just use a big stick of sidewalk chalk.

From: grizzley21 Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 22-Jan-21




JusPassin,, the angle you would need is 5-7 degrees

From: grizzley21 Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 22-Jan-21




JusPassin,, go to THO Game Calls website,, there is a ton of stuff on there about making turkey calls and other game calls,,,,,,

From: Wapiti - - M. S. Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jan-21




I like the knight & Hale Wet Willy waterproof double sided box call.

From: Selden Slider
Date: 23-Jan-21




Those large sticks of pastel chalk work well too. While we're on the subject I never see posts bringing up squeezing the sides of box calls. That changes the tone of the call. You can mimic many different calls that a turkey might make with one box call. Frank

From: JusPassin
Date: 23-Jan-21




Great input..

From: Ranger Joe
Date: 23-Jan-21




Got an old Lynch box call back in the early 70s,... all I ever used was kids sidewalk chalk, seems to do just fine!

From: Wapiti - - M. S. Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 29-Jan-21




Boxcall70 x 2

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 29-Jan-21




Friction=sound chalk etc changes the friction so there is not 1 answer for all calls

From: Realwarrior Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 29-Jan-21




Chalk will absorb moisture. If you use rosin, you can use it in moist weather. I've used boxcalls 35 years and the brown pitch rosin is the best thing that I've found because it still gives high notes. Some of the other things either weatherproof the box and loose sound or absorb moisture and loose sound. To treat a boxcall to work in any weather polyurethane the top of the lid and everything else up to 1/8" from the tops of the sides. Put the rosin on the top of the sides and the bottom of the lid and top-insides of the side and your good tip go.

From: hunterbob
Date: 29-Jan-21




I have the round type with a roughed up glass top with a wooden striker. I am going to give turkey hunting a try this year. What is your preferred call for the beginner?

From: Realwarrior Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 29-Jan-21




For a beginner either a slate (pot & striker) style call. Or a box call. For a beginner, if you choose a pot style, I recommend either a double glass or slate with a synthetic striker. Threefold are lower tone, which keeps a beginner from calling too loud and a synthetic striker is softer sounding and takes less conditioning.

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 29-Jan-21




Thanks for the info Anthony, I have ten more on the bench and have gotten rosin to edge them with. It appears to work really well.

From: mahantango
Date: 30-Jan-21




Where does one get rosin? And x2 rifleman. Some turkeys sound awful and I've seen others respond to some really wretched calling. Heck, the gobblers around here react to my rooster crowing.

From: JusPassin
Date: 30-Jan-21




Amazon, just type in rosin, it's there.

From: White Falcon
Date: 30-Jan-21




I use school type chalk on the edges and paddle.

From: RymanCat
Date: 30-Jan-21




Any caulk like its mentioned oil free. I like to keep a stout rubber band around mine and in a quart zip lock so they don't rattle and that's how you can keep water protected as well and they don't make noise as your walking.





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