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4” feathers instead of 5”

Messages posted to thread:
buckhorn70 21-Jan-21
John Sullins 21-Jan-21
garnet65 21-Jan-21
George D. Stout 21-Jan-21
Bud B. 21-Jan-21
smokin joe 21-Jan-21
Krag 21-Jan-21
Boker 21-Jan-21
grizz 21-Jan-21
GUTPILEPA 21-Jan-21
MikeT 21-Jan-21
JusPassin 21-Jan-21
Sasquatch73 21-Jan-21
George D. Stout 21-Jan-21
Clydebow 21-Jan-21
Elkaddict87 21-Jan-21
deerhunt51 21-Jan-21
Outdoors94 21-Jan-21
Pdiddly 21-Jan-21
Jon Stewart 21-Jan-21
M60gunner 21-Jan-21
Crow#2 21-Jan-21
Nemophilist 21-Jan-21
Bowmania 21-Jan-21
Car54 21-Jan-21
Jon Stewart 21-Jan-21
Therifleman 21-Jan-21
moleman 1 21-Jan-21
reb 21-Jan-21
1buckurout 21-Jan-21
GF 21-Jan-21
bigdog21 21-Jan-21
Orion 21-Jan-21
charley 21-Jan-21
sagebrush 21-Jan-21
Gun 21-Jan-21
Deno 21-Jan-21
Darryl/Deni 21-Jan-21
Cotton Mouth 21-Jan-21
Longcruise 21-Jan-21
MnFn 22-Jan-21
David McLendon 22-Jan-21
Katman 22-Jan-21
Bernie P. 22-Jan-21
Live2Hunt 22-Jan-21
Longbow 22-Jan-21
Tree 22-Jan-21
George D. Stout 22-Jan-21
Nemophilist 22-Jan-21
rabbitman 22-Jan-21
Kanati 22-Jan-21
Kanati 22-Jan-21
Ollie 22-Jan-21
GF 22-Jan-21
Wispershot 22-Jan-21
GF 22-Jan-21
Uncle Lijiah 23-Jan-21
Uncle Lijiah 23-Jan-21
Yooper-traveler 23-Jan-21
Popester 23-Jan-21
Stykman 24-Jan-21
GF 24-Jan-21
Knifeman 24-Jan-21
Loubeck 24-Jan-21
Ranman 25-Jan-21
Lefty38-55 25-Jan-21
Krag 25-Jan-21
From: buckhorn70
Date: 21-Jan-21




Anyone use/prefer 4” feathers over 5” for hunting?

From: John Sullins
Date: 21-Jan-21




I use both 5" and 4", use 3" on some of my 3D arrows. If arrow spine is correct, it makes no difference unless shooting very long shots or in very windy conditions.

From: garnet65
Date: 21-Jan-21




I'm 4" all the time on all my arrows = Easton Legacy 1916 @ 28"

From: George D. Stout
Date: 21-Jan-21




I use what's in the cabinet and likely have a mixture in my quiver at times.

From: Bud B.
Date: 21-Jan-21




4" parabolic

From: smokin joe Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 21-Jan-21




I went to 4" feathers a few years back. They work just as well as the 5" feathers did.

From: Krag
Date: 21-Jan-21




5" just because.......

From: Boker
Date: 21-Jan-21




I shoot 4” ., haven’t seen a lot of difference, also went to a straight fletch

From: grizz
Date: 21-Jan-21




I’ve used both, not much difference. I just like the looks of 5” better.

From: GUTPILEPA
Date: 21-Jan-21




I use mostly 4” but also use 3”” cause you can get 3 cuts out of a full length feather

From: MikeT
Date: 21-Jan-21




5" for me, but thats on a 2016. If I have to drop to lighter bow and 1916 in the future, I might go to 4" on those cause its a skinny shaft. I use 3" on light weight target arrows

From: JusPassin
Date: 21-Jan-21




I used 5 inch for many years, but found with good tuning 4 inch is more than adequate, with less wind drift. Never use 5 anymore.

From: Sasquatch73
Date: 21-Jan-21




Cosmetic at best. If you bare shaft an arrow you do not need much feather to control things. Now to add to the controversy, what color do you like? or the left wing or right wing myth of old days?

From: George D. Stout
Date: 21-Jan-21




I used 3" shield all of our first season here. Those were on 2016 arrows with Bear Razorheads and flew perfectly. My arrows in general are a mish-mash of fletching pretty much. :)

From: Clydebow
Date: 21-Jan-21




4

From: Elkaddict87
Date: 21-Jan-21




I have always used 5” because that’s how I was raised but I tried 4” recently and definitely like the 4” better. Seems to be a bit quieter to me.

From: deerhunt51
Date: 21-Jan-21




That is all I have ever used. Fly great with my broadheads.

From: Outdoors94
Date: 21-Jan-21




4"for me. Prefer over five, but that's just me. Doubt it makes much difference? Deer don't care when there going thought there ribs. God bless

From: Pdiddly
Date: 21-Jan-21

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4" three fletch on everything from 40# to 65#...MORE than enough feather if your arrows are properly tuned.

Right wing shield or parabolic...bright so I can see them!

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 21-Jan-21




all the time.

From: M60gunner
Date: 21-Jan-21




I am switching over to 4” on my carbons and aluminums. Somehow 5” still seems correct for my woodies. Maybe it’s the fat shaft with small fletch that bothers me. On the upside of 4” fletch. These days full length feathers an’it what they used to be. Can’t get 2 -5” fletch out of them anymore but I can get 2 nice 4” fletch. I am talkings store bought feathers. I sent off a drawing to 3Rivers for a custom made chopper recently, 4” long, 9/16 at it highest point.

From: Crow#2
Date: 21-Jan-21




I'm with what grizz and krag said.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 21-Jan-21




It must be that time again. "LOL"

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 21-Jan-21




I prefer 2 inch over 4 or 5.

Bowmania

From: Car54 Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 21-Jan-21




I'm liking 2" Rayzr's so far.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 21-Jan-21




I do use a 5" traditional cut feather on wood arrows with stone points. They just look better.

From: Therifleman
Date: 21-Jan-21




3 4" feathers is all i use. Ive got a burner and have tried smaller--- i found they all work for me with broadheads and field points. I just prefer the aesthetics of 4" shields.

From: moleman 1
Date: 21-Jan-21




5" for no other reason than I like them :)

From: reb
Date: 21-Jan-21




I use both.

From: 1buckurout
Date: 21-Jan-21




I've used 4" feathers for years, mostly because I'm cheap and can get two fletchings from one full length feather...

... and like said before, if your arrows are properly tuned, even 2" or 3" will work fine.

From: GF
Date: 21-Jan-21




Most of my arrows are fletched with 5 inch, because that’s what I had on hand… But I’m using those up, and have no intention of buying that big again, since I just don’t need it.

I think I would use 5 inch if I were going to the trouble to splice them or some thing… Because at that point, you’re really just showing off. No sense being shy about it!

From: bigdog21
Date: 21-Jan-21




I go buy the size of shaft, carbons are 1916 and smaller I use 4", on wood and 2016 and larger 5". has nothing to do with flight are bow pounds, for me more just looks and the 5" are easyer to see on them miss shots.

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 21-Jan-21




I've switched to 4-inch over the past few years for two reasons. First, a 5-inch feather often rides on the shelf on my ASLs. Not a biggie, but I don't like it.

Second, since turkey producers started growing their birds bigger, faster, the birds don't mature and grow feathers as long as they used to. Commercial feathers used to be 11-12 inches or more. Now they're closer to 9-10 inches. Can still often get two 4-inch fletches out of one full-length feather, but not two 5-inch feathers.

Four 4-inch four fletch yields about the same overall feather surface, just a tad more, than three 5-inch three fletch, and slightly more economical when one cuts or burns their own out of full-length feathers.

From: charley
Date: 21-Jan-21




Orion is spot on.

From: sagebrush
Date: 21-Jan-21




I would use 6 in if I had some..I like the 5 1/2.just because

From: Gun Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 21-Jan-21




I went from 5” to 3”. No problem with arrow flight. I gained a fletch chopping w full length feathers.

From: Deno
Date: 21-Jan-21




X2 Moleman. I just like the look of 5" shields.

Deno

From: Darryl/Deni
Date: 21-Jan-21




4 inch for everything has not been a problem.

From: Cotton Mouth
Date: 21-Jan-21




I use both

From: Longcruise
Date: 21-Jan-21




I shoot 4 X 4. Keeps the fletch off the rest on my ASLs. I use full length and always get two per feather. 4 X 4 can have as much surface area as 3 fives.

What's not to like?

From: MnFn
Date: 22-Jan-21
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Four 4”. That was recommended to by Snag from Wilderness Custom Arrows. I like the way they fly.

From: David McLendon
Date: 22-Jan-21




I have 5", 4", 3", but what I shoot the most are 3 X 2.5" shields, and yes they do stabilize big broadheads. They also require that your set up be extremely well tuned, form and release need to be squared away as well.

From: Katman
Date: 22-Jan-21




4x4" for me, parabolic for a quieter flight. Hunted with 4x3" last season and stabilized broadheads well. Back to 4" because tuned a lower foc shaft and operator error is better controlled with a tad more surface area. 25yds and under do not see a significant drop with the 4x4 compared to 3x4.

From: Bernie P. Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jan-21




I use 3 4.5" high profile banana.I believe they stabilize the arrow a little quicker.

From: Live2Hunt
Date: 22-Jan-21




3 4" worked for me, but did not like the looks of them on the arrow. They looked like kids arrows, LOL, I know, I know. I am at 3 5" now. That being said, I've been looking at shorter ones again because of noise. If there is a big difference, I will shorten.

From: Longbow Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jan-21




i lik 4x4, but i use whatever feathers i have to fletch a dozen,its all good,no real reason, they all work,,,but i do staight fletch.

From: Tree
Date: 22-Jan-21




The smaller the fletch the quicker and quieter they are.

From: George D. Stout
Date: 22-Jan-21




As for repetitiveness of a thread, someone new comes in here every week and people that are here rarely use the archive, so it is what it is. I don't mind much since it's better than watching television. :)

From: Nemophilist
Date: 22-Jan-21




Glad to see you changed your perspective. :)

From: rabbitman Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jan-21




Four 4" right wing red feathers.

From: Kanati
Date: 22-Jan-21




Is it easier to fletch full helical on carbons with 4”? I use gold tip hunters.

From: Kanati
Date: 22-Jan-21




And we are talking 3 4” feathers right?

From: Ollie Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jan-21




No difference provided you have done a good job bare shafting, optimizing your arrow. I use 3x3” helical fletch on some of my heavy Carbon shafts (625 gr out of bows in the mid-50’s#) and they fly identical to my 5” fletched arrows.

From: GF
Date: 22-Jan-21




As a rule… I believe that the thinner the shaft, the shorter the fletch needs be if you are going to use a helical.

Not that helical is strictly necessary, of course…

I love the looks of 5 inch shields with a lot of helical… And they are extremely forgiving… But they’re a lot louder and slower than an arrow needs to be. Of course, I’ve never seen a target duck.

From: Wispershot
Date: 22-Jan-21




Kinda like George whatever is handy. Parabolic,shield,5”,4”,3” it’s all good.

From: GF
Date: 22-Jan-21




Actually, I’m in the process of developing my own shape for 4 1/2“… Because the fives now look too darn big to my eye, and the fours still look a mite puny

From: Uncle Lijiah
Date: 23-Jan-21




From: Uncle Lijiah
Date: 23-Jan-21




I just started using 4” parabolic last year. I was using 5”

From: Yooper-traveler
Date: 23-Jan-21




In the winter for hare and roving I like a 5”. Easier to see and fine. I also just like the look of a big helical feather. Otherwise I also like 4-3” fletching.

From: Popester
Date: 23-Jan-21




There are several of you here who forgot more about archery than I'll ever know. That said, it makes sense to me that if 4" feathers get the job done well, it makes sense to go shorter. Until a few weeks ago I was shooting mostly 5" shield cut feathers on my arrows, some 4" parabolic. 4" was doing the job, so I stripped all my 5" feathers off and switched to 4" parabolic. I have to admit though, I think 5" shield cut feathers look better.

From: Stykman
Date: 24-Jan-21




If arrows are tuned to the bow, it makes no difference what length feather used. Longer produces more drag. I was using 3" shield but have gone to the 4" just because I like the looks better.

From: GF
Date: 24-Jan-21




“ so I stripped all my 5" feathers off and switched to 4" parabolic. ”

Nope. I’m WAAAAY too cheap to peel a perfectly good feather! ;)

From: Knifeman
Date: 24-Jan-21




After verbally sparring with Bowmania in hunting camp for the last 7 years, I switched to 3 " feathers. I see no difference other than they are quieter and a tad faster.Win win for me. Bowmania finally won ONE argument. He is 1 and 5000 so far.

From: Loubeck
Date: 24-Jan-21




I like em both, but a well tuned arrow seems to fly the same to me with either.

From: Ranman
Date: 25-Jan-21




3-4”on wood, 2” and 3” on carbon. Prefer 2” on carbons, but I have several 3” already.

From: Lefty38-55
Date: 25-Jan-21




I cut white 5" parabolic ones to be like 4-1/2" shields and tie them on in the English fashion, with iridescent green 'vidigris' paint under where they are fletched on, then wrapped with thread.

From: Krag
Date: 25-Jan-21




Posted above I use 5" but know I could get by with less. Went on a quick rove at my club so only grabbed two arrows and left one in the car. First shot at a stump the nock blew off. Back to the car for the other arrow and 2nd shot with it and a fletch fell off. Next couple shots went just fine. Then another popped off. Shot it several times back to the car with no difference than with all three on board. These were made up with a cheap generic super glue. Only other time I had this issue was back when FletchTite changed their formula...but was a little lesson in what's not needed for good flight.





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