From: 14pbuck
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Date: 20-Jan-21 |
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Just picked up a Schafer Silver Tip bow is amazing tuned right up shoots spot on. My question is it has a bear weather rest mounted low on riser . I usually shoot off the shelf but figured I would give it a try. I liked the way it shot much to my surprise. I know Paul shot a rest. Do you Schafer shooters prefer rest or shelf anybody experiment between both?
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From: Mtquiver
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Date: 20-Jan-21 |
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14pbuck My preference is to shoot off the shelf. Depending on what rest one would choose, one would imagine that it would be a tad smoother, maybe even quicker, but how noticeable? Doubt it has much effect in bowhunting. Just my thought on the matter. My choice, again, is to shoot off the shelf. Stay Safe/Shoot Straight. MT
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From: RWGreen
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Date: 20-Jan-21 |
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I have some set up with an elevated rest, feather rest and off the shelf. Probably from the nostalgia of it, but I prefer feather rests. That said, every Silvertip I have shoots pretty doggone good off the shelf too.
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From: MikeT
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Date: 20-Jan-21 |
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Perfect rest already on the bow. I use them on every bow, jmo of course
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From: Nemophilist
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Date: 20-Jan-21 |
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I prefer shooting off the shelf. But Paul Schafer shot off an elevated rest from what I read and he was one heck of a shot. Try both and see what you like the best.
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From: GF
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Date: 20-Jan-21 |
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JMO, those rests are like broccoli.
They are probably good for my shooting, but I just simply don’t like them.
I do have one on my Thunderbird, as well as a half dozen arrows fletched with plastic vanes, so that I have a Rainy Day Bow.
And I have to say… One evening under all VERY low light conditions, I put four arrows into a 30 yard target and they grouped into a vertical string that was probably no more than 1.5 shaft diameters wide. If I ever find that I can reproduce that kind of a result with any predictability, you’ll probably never see one of my bows without a rest on it again.
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From: RWGreen
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Date: 20-Jan-21 |
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Here's one with a feather rest.
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From: Wudstix
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Date: 20-Jan-21 |
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I usually have a wooden match stick under the rug on the rest.
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From: wolverine
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Date: 20-Jan-21 |
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I use the bear weather rest on both of my 1 piece Silvertips.
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From: jrh24
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Date: 20-Jan-21 |
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I shoot a Bear Weather Rest on most of my bows. I see nothing wrong with them at all. Thanks John
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From: Arcus Pater
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Date: 20-Jan-21 |
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I have four Silvertips, two I shoot off the shelf with 4 fletch feathers and two bows I have mounted weather rests on. For the rests I fletch four 4" vanes at 75 & 105.
Once you acclimate to the very slight difference in set up there is no difference for the archer.
Try both.
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From: arlone
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Date: 20-Jan-21 |
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Believe Paul shot off a raised rest because he shot vanes?
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From: bowhunt
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Date: 21-Jan-21 |
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I have used both on Schafers.I typically prefer the rugrest that they supply.Especially for hunting.I like the rugrest over most any other material for shooting of the shelf.You can try it and see what you think.
You can reinstall the elevated rest easily if you prefer it.2 sided tape or spray adhesive if it looses tackyness.
I am kinda on the side of RWGreen above in that I really like a Feather rest.I have them on 2 of my bows.
An archer has to decide what they personally like in the end.
Yes,Paul shot plastic vanes off of the elevated rest arlone.Thier certainly good in wet conditions and lower maintanance than feathers.Good for his Wilderness hunting for sure.
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From: NJStykbow
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Date: 21-Jan-21 |
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All my Silvertips from Paul came with an elevated rest that I shot with four fletch, 75x105 vanes. Some of the recent ones came with a rug rest. I have converted them to elevated, even with feathers. Bare shaft tuning has shown me easier tuning with the elevated rests. Shoot them on the Bear TDs also.
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From: fdp
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Date: 21-Jan-21 |
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Chris, what are you calling "off the shelf"? The way that phrase is used here is typically a misnomer.
If you shoot any bow flat off the shelf with no type of raised pressure point most folks have difficulty getting good clearance and their flight is typically less than optimal. Not all, but most.
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From: PhantomWolf
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Date: 21-Jan-21 |
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My Silvertip came from Paul with a rug rest installed on the shelf. When I could handle the 64# @ 30 it shot great. Wish I could afford lighter limbs, maybe someday.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 21-Jan-21 |
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A stick-on rest simplifies tuning and allows for more clearance (minimum contact). Shelf rests are nostalgic I guess but everyone I knew was moving away from shelf shooting and that was in the late 1960's. I've used stick on rests since 1967. One less issue to overcome for tuning a bow to best accuracy.
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From: GF
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Date: 21-Jan-21 |
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Is it just me, or does the bowyer have nothing to do with the matter?
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From: NJStykbow
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Date: 21-Jan-21 |
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The bowyer can set it up either way you want.
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From: George Vernon
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Date: 21-Jan-21 |
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I shot off rug rests for years. And still do with my Hill style longbows. But a number of years ago I got a 'flat shelf' 1965 Bear Grizzly and it clearly needed a feather rest like it had from the factory. Since then, most of my recurves and hybrid longbows have some form of elevated rest. Tuning has never been easier. This past summer I acquired a used Silvertip and quickly went to a Bear Weather rest to see if the inventor of the bow was on to something. Well, once again, I found Paul Schafer had some good insight. The Weather rest really cleaned up things up for me and made it easy to shoot vanes--something I like to do in wet hunting weather.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 21-Jan-21 |
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Using a rest has nothing to do with how a bow is tillered. There was no special tillering back in the day on manufactured bows, other than the normal positive tiller that was normal. Make no difference when using a stick on rest, or even a flipper and plunger.
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From: Oly
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Date: 21-Jan-21 |
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I have two original Schafer's by Paul and five newer models from Dave and have always shot off the shelf on these and my other bows. I shoot split finger and 3 feather fletched cedars and have never had any issues tuning. A good friend of mine has all of his set up with the elevated weather rest and swears by it, although he shoots 3-under. I don't believe it makes much difference and is more of a personal preference than anything. I say try both setups and see what you like best.
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From: Nemophilist
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Date: 21-Jan-21 |
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I shoot off the shelf, split vision, split fingers, deep hook, three fletch aluminum or wood arrows. I have never had a problem tuning my bows. Like I said above try shooting with a elevated rest and off the shelf and see which you prefer. I owned two Schafer Silvertips back in the mid-1990s.
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From: Therifleman
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Date: 21-Jan-21 |
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I shoot off the shelf. Ive yet to find a bow that i couldn't get great arrow flight off the shelf so I'd not consider sticking some plastic gizmo that could get ripped off in the brush or otherwise fail.
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From: Murray Seratt
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Date: 22-Jan-21 |
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I have a vintage Super Grizzly that has a flat shelf. I put a little piece of leather lace under the rug rest, and a piece of toothpick under the sideplate. I've never had any trouble getting good arrow flight. I came to own a Groves Flamehunter that also has a flat shelf. I plan on setting it up the same way.
Murray
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From: David McLendon
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Date: 22-Jan-21 |
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When I had mine I switched to a magnetic flipper type rest and kept it that way until I sold it.
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From: Butch
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Date: 22-Jan-21 |
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Most of the older custom/factory bows were made with a flat rest-- I use an elevated rest on them to cut down on the drag. Many of the newer custom/factory bows have a radius built into the rest-- I just use a rug rest on them. The closer my bow hand fist is to the arrow, the more accurate I shoot with my style of instinctive shooting.
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