Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


ILF Hunting Rigs

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Michbow 03-Jun-20
Michbow 03-Jun-20
Smokedinpa 03-Jun-20
selstickbow 03-Jun-20
Bowmania 03-Jun-20
Bowmania 03-Jun-20
Phil Magistro 03-Jun-20
Phil Magistro 03-Jun-20
Outlaws-on-the-Loose 03-Jun-20
Briar 04-Jun-20
Briar 04-Jun-20
altitude sick 04-Jun-20
dm/wolfskin 04-Jun-20
dm/wolfskin 04-Jun-20
George D. Stout 04-Jun-20
ESP 04-Jun-20
ESP 04-Jun-20
George D. Stout 04-Jun-20
Michbow 04-Jun-20
shamus275 04-Jun-20
ESP 04-Jun-20
fdp 04-Jun-20
spike78 04-Jun-20
Briar 04-Jun-20
GUTPILE PA 04-Jun-20
Brian waters 04-Jun-20
savage1 04-Jun-20
Phil Magistro 04-Jun-20
1/2miledrag 04-Jun-20
Draven 04-Jun-20
Draven 04-Jun-20
selstickbow 04-Jun-20
Katman 04-Jun-20
savage1 04-Jun-20
Brian waters 04-Jun-20
Jason D 05-Jun-20
Bowmania 05-Jun-20
selstickbow 05-Jun-20
huntmaster70 05-Jun-20
George D. Stout 05-Jun-20
savage1 05-Jun-20
JHPope 05-Jun-20
elkster 05-Jun-20
Hutch 05-Jun-20
Aerofish 06-Jun-20
GUTPILE PA 06-Jun-20
wmb238 06-Jun-20
BenMaher 07-Jun-20
Stoutstuff 07-Jun-20
Bassman 07-Jun-20
From: Michbow Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 03-Jun-20




So I’m thinking of getting an ILF rig for bowhunting. Could those of you who hunt with them show off a pic of them and what riser/ limb combo you use?

From: Michbow Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 03-Jun-20




So I’m thinking of getting an ILF rig for bowhunting. Could those of you who hunt with them show off a pic of them and what riser/ limb combo you use?

From: Smokedinpa
Date: 03-Jun-20

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Titan 2 w/ BlackMax carbon/wood limbs.

From: selstickbow
Date: 03-Jun-20

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old Hoyt Tracker 19" riser warfed to ILF, Centaur longbow limbs, longs, 64" bow, 44#, springy rest......Bob Morrison bubinga grip.

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 03-Jun-20




Border Tempest with 35 pound Hex 8 limbs. Took out both lungs with a 160 Snuffer and ended in the off shoulder.

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 03-Jun-20




Funny won't post a picture. JPG picture????????????

Bowmania

From: Phil Magistro
Date: 03-Jun-20

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21" DAS Dalaa with SF Ultimate Pro limbs. I like 17" risers but have found the 21" to be very sweet shooting bow.

From: Phil Magistro
Date: 03-Jun-20

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Because I found the 21" to be such a sweet shooter I picked up a Gillo Ghost 19". This one has a set of Winex limbs. This bow is an absolute dream to shoot. I'm sorry I waited so long to get one but I'm glad I finally did since they changed to a new version and I don't like the new style as much.

From: Outlaws-on-the-Loose Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 03-Jun-20

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Check out bivouac bow co !!! There new backland is killer !!

"The “Backland” is our interpretation of the ultimate traveling bow. It packs down nicely to fit right in your backpack, and allows you to go anywhere around the world."

From: Briar
Date: 04-Jun-20




I have been through the ilf gauntlet for about 5 years. I have bought and sold 5-8 sets of limbs and probably as many risers to find what worked for me. I think I'm set now, but many an ilf shooter has probably said that. My riser of choice in wood is the tradtech black magic. That sucker with a good string is longbow quiet. I use it with sky recurve limbs and centaur longbow limbs. If going metal, I just could never break up with my tribe Halo. It is very quiet also and I just use tt blackmax 2.0 on it currently.

From: Briar
Date: 04-Jun-20

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From: altitude sick
Date: 04-Jun-20




Morrison Ebony Macassar Wood riser. ILF with Max 6 Beautiful, Quiet, warm in the hand. I don’t prefer to hunt with a metal grip or riser anymore.

I would post pics. But can’t from my IPhone. Tech challenged I guess

From: dm/wolfskin
Date: 04-Jun-20

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Trad Tech II with 45 lb Black Max limbs and 17 inch riser.

From: dm/wolfskin
Date: 04-Jun-20

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From: George D. Stout
Date: 04-Jun-20




I may sound like Captain Obvious here, and I should, but find one that fits you and you can shoot well. Like any other bow, they have different feel...each one to each archer. What works for us or them may not be at all good for you.

From: ESP
Date: 04-Jun-20

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A tribe x3 with dryad ACS. LBX. XL 51@31. The

From: ESP
Date: 04-Jun-20




It is also hard to beat the hoyt satori

From: George D. Stout
Date: 04-Jun-20




The Satori is a great bow, but if you haven't shot any ILF bows yet, I sure wouldn't sink over $700.00 in one. Try to get around to try a few as soon as you're able. You can mix and match limbs and risers for under $300.00 for new, and likely cheaper if you do some research. Then if you get a chance to shoot a Satori and fall in love with it, then I can see dropping the cash. Anyway, you're likely to go through several on your way to yours, so be smart about it.

From: Michbow Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 04-Jun-20




Thanks Mr. Stout, I plan to do that, just kinda curious of what you all use for hunting, worried they are loose or loud. I like the idea that the are adjustable and interchangeable, but would not want it to effect my chances of harvesting an animal due to noise level.

From: shamus275 Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 04-Jun-20




I'm shooting a VPA riser with DAS bamboo recurve limbs, makes a 56" bow at 40lbs. I'll probably get a set of Uukhas before mid summer.

From: ESP
Date: 04-Jun-20




Michbow, the metal risers have a different sound. They can be made very quiet but have a different sound. The wood risers are like any other three piece wood bow.

From: fdp
Date: 04-Jun-20




Michbow, they ate loose. And the limbs glop around when the bow isn't strung. In fact, I have seen limbs fall out of the riser.

Now, that being said, they can be made as quiet as any other takedown bow. Remember that's all they are.

I like the compatibility of all the different types and price points of limbs that are available. The adjustability means exactly nothing to me.

My favorite ILF riser without sinking a ton of money in one is a modified Bear Black Bear compound riser. Shoot just as well for me as most others.

From: spike78
Date: 04-Jun-20




Morrison Riser with Blackmax limbs.

From: Briar
Date: 04-Jun-20




The biggest contributer to noise for me was a carbon limb. It had a different kinda sound.

From: GUTPILE PA
Date: 04-Jun-20




Can't post pic but I have a Tra tech with longbow limbs carbon wood 60# and I just love this set up

From: Brian waters
Date: 04-Jun-20




Check out the 21" galaxy explorer riser at LAS. Lightweight, BEAUTIFUL,COMFORTABLE grip. I love it, so i bought a 2nd for longbow limbs. You will not find a better cheap riser. I modified a satori side plate to give me a radiused shelf to shoot off of. As for wood, check out chuckscustom bows.com. for $400 im very happy with my 21" riser. As for limbs, buy whatevers in your comfort range financially. Yes, some shoot better than others but my findings are alot of folks cant shoot good enough to truly execute the high dollar limbs. Right now im shooting the wns carbon bamboo limbs and am very happy. In my experience the limbs material makes no difference unless you have the right arrow combo that those limbs like. I cannot shoot performance limbs due to a pinched nerve in my back. My worst enemy is carbon foam and uukhas, but man they sure shoot good.

From: savage1
Date: 04-Jun-20

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Here is a morrison Phoenix 21" heavy riser with hex6 medium wood cores.

From: Phil Magistro
Date: 04-Jun-20

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George raised a good point. For your start with ILF rigs you may find a Warf bow an excellent choice. Many of us started with Warfs and many still shoot them to this day. Some older compound risers may be better suited to you depending on your draw length but don't overlook the capabilities of a Black Bear riser matched with a set of ILF limbs. And you don't need to spend hundreds for limbs. Trad Tech's Black Max are excellent. There are numerous other choices that are less than $200, some less than $100. Risers should be available for $100 or less, giving you an excellent bowhunting rig for a modest price. I've had Warf bows since 2005 and can say have seen how well a Warf handles and shoots and how quiet they are. There is no economic or performance reason to look at all the higher end bows and limbs we've posted here unless you get caught up in this like many of us, chasing the Holly Grail of performance when, for bowhunting, we're talking about 20-30 yards, not 70 meters.

From: 1/2miledrag
Date: 04-Jun-20

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21" Satori riser and medium length hoyt limbs for me.

From: Draven
Date: 04-Jun-20




"To each their own but I have to admit, I never really understood the draw of the WARF, at least not now that there are a whole host of hunting length risers that are more tunable, better quality, and in many cases actually cheaper. When there was nothing else available, sure. But now that there are a number of much better risers readily available, unless you just like re-purposing old stuff, to me it's a no brainer."

WARF is the "limited funds man" choice. You can get an old compound riser for $10 and you buy Sage limbs for $80 and you have a bow. Even the cheapest ILF rig will still cost you $140.

From: Draven
Date: 04-Jun-20




My bad, I've read WARF but thought Frankenbow. The same applies.

From: selstickbow
Date: 04-Jun-20




why would any factory ILF riser be any more tunable than an ILF Warf? Warfs have same pockets dimensions & limb bolts & ILF dovetails.....most have plunger holes too. My Hoyt Tracker 19" warf takes Jager grips like DAS & Titans do, and centershot is similar. I've had a lot of Black Bear and Rambo risers and they are great, as well as the TD-3 Hoyt H20 risers too, which can go either ILF or DAS easily. The Bear Mini-Mag at 17" makes a great ILF hunting ILF warf riser, as well do the 18" Ben Pearson risers make great warfs. I think warfs could rule the ILF realm if folks could get past the "ewww it was a compound" thing. haha.

From: Katman
Date: 04-Jun-20

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My latest, Das Master riser, Morrison Max 6 limbs. Very impressed with it.

From: savage1
Date: 04-Jun-20

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All these are warfs except the satori on the right. Black bears, rambos, pse silverhawk and kingfisher. The satori went to the chopping block. I had more warfs I but have given a few away. One lucky winner was from Australia. Cost me $60 to give that one away. Lol

From: Brian waters
Date: 04-Jun-20




Damn Luis, thats a expensive give away.

From: Jason D
Date: 05-Jun-20

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Trad Tech Onyx riser with Uukha VX-1000 shorts. 44# 56”

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 05-Jun-20

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Border Tempest, Hex 7.5, 39 pounds.

From: selstickbow
Date: 05-Jun-20




TODD that's a big boy right there, where did you find that one?

From: huntmaster70
Date: 05-Jun-20




I don't know if it was mentioned yet but consider a wood ILF riser if you're hunting in cold weather in fall/winter . I've used metal ILF risers in the fall- once- then switched to wood ILF. The metal was too cold. (Maybe its just me.)

From: George D. Stout
Date: 05-Jun-20




Most people, and I mean that genuinely, will never be good enough to realize the difference between a high dollar ILF rig and a Black Bear with Sage limbs. Keep this in mind; those old compound risers that many of you smirk at, were capable of shooting perfect field rounds....and did shoot perfect field rounds in the hands of good shooters. And that was with those old 1970's limbs, heavy cables, yada, yada, yada. If they were capable with those, they are capable with recurve limbs. It's all in the guy shooting them and has nothing to do with how much money you have to throw at the sport....or new technology, or new designs, etc. The new technology does give us alot more choices though so pick wisely and pick one that fits.

Also keep in mind that perfect indoor rounds were being shot in the 1960's, and only recently did Vic Berger's 899 of 900 get beaten...and Vic's was done in 1969 with a Bear takedown.

From: savage1
Date: 05-Jun-20




Very true George. A tuned bow is a tuned bow whether it is wood, laminated wood, aluminum or was previously a compound bow. Its still doing the same job.

There are some inexpensive ilf risers out there to be had and I won't say a warf is better but I will say for the most part they are good solid platforms able to handle any weight limbs. Some production risers are thin and meant for lighter weight limbs. User beware. Most of my warfs have harvested game. If I settled on one bow and sold all the rest with my luck it would break. So I keep hanging on to at least a dozen risers and as many different sets of limbs. Ready for the apocalypse!

From: JHPope
Date: 05-Jun-20




I have a Wing "Ketchum" compound riser and a York "Trophy" compound riser, both ILF setups. Enjoy both of them. I haven't tried the Frankenbow setup as of yet.

From: elkster
Date: 05-Jun-20




VPA riser

Dryad acs recurve limbs

58 inches

From: Hutch
Date: 05-Jun-20




I love the concept of of ILF. Someday, soon hopefully, I'll be able to show off my rig. other than that, Ya'll suck! ;-)

Hutch

From: Aerofish
Date: 06-Jun-20

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Stalker Apex riser with 48# Morrison Max5 limbs. This rig spits an arrow as fast as my Bear Green stripe TD @ 55#.

From: GUTPILE PA
Date: 06-Jun-20




Nice bow Aerofish

From: wmb238
Date: 06-Jun-20

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morrison riser and trad tech carbon foam limbs

From: BenMaher
Date: 07-Jun-20

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Gen 1 Titan ... Still going strong

From: Stoutstuff
Date: 07-Jun-20

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Got Wood! Had wondered how a wood ILF would feel and sound... Now I have 2. Rossing Archery 19" & 25". Border Hex 6 Longs on the 19 and W&W RCX-100 Longs on the 25.

From: Bassman Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 07-Jun-20




Nice bows. I have a super nice ILF 44 pounder with Fivics tournament limbs, and a very solid Mag riser. Had it for sale for 200 bucks. Cost twice that new. No takers,so I bought a 25 inch Kinetic Novius riser for the limbs ,and am now shooting it for target bare bow. The other handle is a 17 inches. Now it is a good combo for both hunting ,and target. Quick switch of the limbs ,and strings, and you are good to go. I could shave my collection down to just that combination ,and be happy.





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