From: garnet65
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Date: 01-Jun-20 |
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It's a one piece recurve "Black Hawk Bee" with the following on the riser: 1167 ASB-4153 50# @ 28" 62"
It's RH, and has a flat shelf (no radius).
Any info you might have will be appreciated like age (does the "1167" = Nov 1967?), reputation, manufacturer, value, etc. I still need to clean it up, make a string for it, tune it, and shoot it etc.
Let me know what you might know. Thanks to all who take the time to respond
Shoot 'em straight. Be well and stay healthy.
Regards, WMM
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From: MStyles
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Date: 01-Jun-20 |
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Pictures please.
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From: EZ Archer
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Date: 01-Jun-20 |
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Good bows and yes it’s from Nov of 1967. The Bee started shorter back in the 1950’s but hit longer as things/designs changed. I have a Bee from 1956 that’s 57 1/2 inches long. If you go to vintagearchery.org you’ll find a lot about Cravotta Bros./Blackhawk Archery. I’ll try to post the page about the Bee from their 1968 catalog.
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From: EZ Archer
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Date: 01-Jun-20 |
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Good bows and yes it’s from Nov of 1967. The Bee started shorter back in the 1950’s but hit longer as things/designs changed. I have a Bee from 1956 that’s 57 1/2 inches long. If you go to vintagearchery.org you’ll find a lot about Cravotta Bros./Blackhawk Archery. I’ll try to post the page about the Bee from their 1968 catalog.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 01-Jun-20 |
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Manufacturer is Cravotta Brothers, Black Hawk Archery, East McKeesport, Pa. Reputation? They were in business for 30 years and likely would have been longer but the compound bow took over archery back then. Yours is November 1967. The Bee was a mid level hunting bow, and was also in a Short Bee version.
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From: Nemophilist
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Date: 01-Jun-20 |
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It wasn't the compound bow that put Black Hawk Archery out of business because Black Hawk made and sold compound bows from 1975 to when they went out of business. In the Black Hawk 1975 catalog they had the Titan Compound B-2, Saturn Compound B-3. 1977 catalog Black Hawk had the Chief Scout B-01 compound, Jupiter B-0 compound, Saturn B-3 compound, and the Warrior B-4 compound. Then in the 1978 Black Hawk catalog there was the Chief Scout B-01 compound, Neptune B-02 compound, Jupiter B-0 compound, Saturn B-3 compound, Warrior B-4 compound, and the Outlaw B-8 compound. Pictured is a 1978 Black Hawk Chief Scout Compound Bow.
What put Blawk Hawk Archery out of business was a devastating factory fire that they never recovered from. I live about fourteen miles from where the Black Hawk factory was at, Third Street East Mckeesport, Pa. 15035. I've owned quite a few Black Hawk bows in the past.
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From: garnet65
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Date: 02-Jun-20 |
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Thank you to all who replied to my post.
WMM
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From: elkslayer4x5
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Date: 02-Jun-20 |
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I've got a Short Bee, about 1971 I think, marked 60" and 43#s it's actually 40# at 28. Serial 971. It draws pretty smooth, shoots nice. I shot a string of 18 thru the far eastern chrony, it read 14 of them that averaged 42.7 meter per sec. x 3.28084 is 140.11 fps with a 488 grain arrow.
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From: Supernaut
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Date: 02-Jun-20 |
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elkslayer4x5, your Short Bee with the 971 serial number was made in September of 1971. Enjoy the bow!
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From: elkslayer4x5
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Date: 03-Jun-20 |
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That serial number is all there is, does that mean BlackHawk only made one Short Bee is Sept of '71? Or that the Short Bee's didn't get numbers, just build dates?
As we all know, can't edit here. I picked up the SB as a project, was looking a bit ratty. It's got some work to do, it's compeating with four other under 50# bows.
I was rather pleased at the speed of this bow, shooting arrows for 46-50# bows, it only draws 45# at my 30".
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From: jimreed
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Date: 03-Jun-20 |
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Got my first 2 Deer back in 1972 and 73 With a Short Bee, 52#. But it was like getting schocked with electricity on ever shot. Didn't know about changing brace height back then. I just thought you put the string on and that's what you got and used. I knew it was going to hurt on every shot so did not practice much with it. Bought a Browning the next year. What a difference. Still did not know about changing brace but, it must have been very close to the sweet spot right from the start.
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From: garnet65
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Date: 17-Jul-20 |
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After re-reading this post, I saw in the catalog that the string length was 57.5 inches for a 62" bow. This is 4.5" shorter than the bow length, when "rule-of-thumb" for recurve strings is 4" shorter than bow length. This may explain the 8" brace height indicated which seems on the high side.
As I need to make a string for this bow, can anyone comment if this 57.5" string length is the optimal length for the best shooting result? Or have some of you Black Hawk shooters preferred an only 4" shorter typical length? Or something different?
Thanks for your input and feedback.
Regards,
WMM
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From: fdp
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Date: 17-Jul-20 |
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Since final brace height is a dynamic based to a certain degree on individual attributes, you may want to start with a string 4" shorter to allow finding the optimum setting for you. Once that is done you can build a string to suit you.
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