From: George D. Stout
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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No. I've shot some that are plum flat on the ends and they shoot the same. Now I wouldn't shoot them on a sanctioned field round, but that's one of those personal things. They would likely not miss a 5 unless I missed the 5 to start with. :)
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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I would be hesitant to shoot really bad ones into good targets since they can cause more tearing on them. Other than that...
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From: Shag
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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I’ve wondered that too. I’ve also wondered if one that’s screwed up on one side could show a false reading as far a spine on impacting the target. I’ve got some that have hit rocks and one side is pretty funky. I’d say George is right though.
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From: Sawtooth (Original)
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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I don’t shoot anywhere close to good enough to answer that query.
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From: RJH1
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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In my experience, none at all
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From: NY Yankee
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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More psychological than anything.
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From: deerhunt51
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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Just touch them up being carefull not to reduce the weight much.
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From: 76aggie
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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So THAT'S my problem! Seriously, I don't think that would cause much of an issue unless the field point is really banged up.
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From: aromakr
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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Shag:
How the arrow is sticking in the target has nothing to do with Spine
Bob
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From: bigdog21
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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How do we ever shoot wood. and glue on tips..
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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You would have to be really good to detect any difference. Use a file to knock of rough or sharp edges or a little bent over tip to lessen target damage. The thing I hate, they don't spin true and makes you think you have a crooked arrow. They have to be pretty bad for me to buy new ones. >>>>-----> Ken
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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Maybe, just maybe and if I was a top contender I might be concerned about a beat up field point. Now if it’s bent it’s trash anyway. I used to chuck them up in my drill motor using an old insert then my file to make them sharp agian. These days I just chuck them. I have to much stuff as it is and I keep buying more.
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From: East Texan
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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When I am not shooting where I aim..I tend to blame it on anything..the wind, sun, etc.
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From: Jim
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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Is there anybody that good that they could tell the difference? No. Now, taking pride in my gear, I would clean them up or get rid of real bad ones.
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From: fdp
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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My main reason for not using them is because as mentioned above they are VERY touh on targets. In particular bag targets in my experience.
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From: Shag
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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Aromakr: it does when bare shaft tuning. My thought process was if one side of the field point was really funky (flattened off, point really bent hard, like in a right angle) that it COULD impact the target and not enter straight because of the serious bend.
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From: JimG
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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Uhmmmm..... NO
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From: GF
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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“ I don’t shoot anywhere close to good enough to answer that query.”
That about sums it up!
“My thought process was if one side of the field point was really funky (flattened off, point really bent hard, like in a right angle) that it COULD impact the target and not enter straight because of the serious bend.”
There are plenty of good reasons to ignore orientation in the target when bare- shafting... and you just may have invented a new one.
All that matters is where the pointy end hits.
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From: wmb238
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Date: 14-May-20 |
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not the way that I shoot
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From: GF
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Date: 15-May-20 |
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I guess on the other hand, any excuse is a good excuse ;)
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From: Zbone
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Date: 15-May-20 |
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Ain't really gonna matter but if tip mashed ot curled, take a file and 20 seconds done...
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From: longbowguy
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Date: 15-May-20 |
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I shoot a longbow and wooden arrows. That is all the excuse anybody needs. - lbg
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From: JimG
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Date: 15-May-20 |
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Think about it. There are all kinds of arrow point shapes. Within reason all tip shapes will impact a target the same as long as weight is the same. Blunts, judo's, Hex's, field points, 38 spl cases glued on the end of an arrow, etc. A slight tip bend on a field point is not going to matter one iota. I bet if you locked a bow into a HooterShooter you still could not see a substantial difference.
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From: Mike E
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Date: 15-May-20 |
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Nah,,I take my misshapped FP's and grind them flat and use them as stumpers/small game heads.
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From: Wild Bill
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Date: 15-May-20 |
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Curled, flattened or otherwise damaged points, have a history of missing, why not eliminate their possibility of steering the arrow off target. George does," Now I wouldn't shoot them on a sanctioned field round", and he ought to know.
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From: Bowmania
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Date: 15-May-20 |
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At 17.3 three no. I use to notice a difference at 25-30 when I shot aluminum. Something damaged the tip and it usually did something to the shaft too.
Now, I shoot A/C and even thought the can bend, they're tougher and I can't notice a differece.
Bowmania
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From: GF
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Date: 15-May-20 |
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That’s true about those points having a history of missing, Bill - how do you think they got curled, flattened or otherwise damaged in the first place???
Just razzin’ you a little because I know you’re a good sport ;)
Personally, I don’t believe for an instant that a battered TIP on a field point would EVER make a dime’s worth of difference in anyone’s score at an archery meet.
That said... I do know (this applies mostly to aluminum, of course) that an arrow that looks straight enough to the eye may not spin true, and THAT (especially with aluminum) can absolutely lead to some very strange and erratic results. I can’t imagine that any half-way serious competitor would go into a contest without meticulously checking over every arrow to make sure that it was as perfect as he could get it to be, if for no other reason than the confidence factor that you need in order to perform at your best...
And I did just specify a battered TIP. And I must confess that I was thinking about this just in terms of my standard 125 grain FPS. I do think there is a pretty good chance that an arrow that hit something hard enough to better the tip might actually have hit hard enough to bend it a bit, and if you think about the physics of it, the longer/heavier your point, the greater the chances are that an off-center hit could put a little bend in the shank of it or inflict some Evil on your insert which might go unnoticed until you put a perfect broadhead on there for a careful spin test.
Consider, too, that on a 200-300 grain point, whatever amount of Bent in the shank will have a vastly larger impact than on a 125, because you’re looking at giving about twice the mass about twice the leverage and about twice the lateral displacement from the axis with which to screw everything up. Probably even enough that you could detect some weirdness on the arrow using very high speed photography.
So I guess I’m going to reconsider my position and agree with George and Bill to an extent… Even though I don’t believe that I’m a good enough shot for it to actually matter in my world. Maybe bare-shaft.
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From: deerme
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Date: 15-May-20 |
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It does not make any difference with my shooting. The feathers correct any tendencies for the arrow to wander much like it would for broadheads. Bare-shafting a severely deformed tip maybe different story, never tried it as I always want my bare- shafts to spin absolutely true.
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From: Bassman
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Date: 15-May-20 |
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If I ding a field point, I take it off, and throw it away, and replace it with a new one.Their cheap.
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From: Tom McCool
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Date: 16-May-20 |
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Dang... there goes another excuse why I miss.
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From: Jinkster
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Date: 16-May-20 |
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I can't think of a an arrow point that appears more "battered" than a BH that's been knapped out of obsidian stone yet despite its many edge serrations and chiseled out irregular surfaces?...
now what was the question about a ding on an arrow point?
LOL! ;)
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From: DanaC
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Date: 16-May-20 |
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If it's messed up enough to be lopsided, or you need to file it down, you might want to just toss it. They're like fishing flies and hooks, expendable!
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From: GF
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Date: 16-May-20 |
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“ I'm definitely not using a crappy $1 point when everything else is straight, right and tuned.”
Well, there’s your answer! Guess you had it in you all along…
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 16-May-20 |
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I always wondered also but never found it to be true. When in doubt replace though.
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