From: pdk25
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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I would like to sincerely apologize for comments that I made on a recent thread that has since been closed regarding buying bows with stimulus check funds. It really hasn't just been on that thread, but other recent threads as well. I have been argumentative and insulting at times. There really is no good excuse for my behavior. I am under alot of stress, but so is virtually everyone else. I should know better than to make any posts when I am already stressed or angry about outside events, but age notwithstanding, I can be quite juvenile at times. I will try to be better in the future, and will not be offended by pm's that suggest that I check myself. To any that I have offended or just pissed off. My apologies;.
PS Not really a big fan of public apologies, but since I don't have the thread to rely on, I really can't do it on an individual basis, and I guess this covers people that read, but didn't respond, on the actual thread.
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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everyone is a little stressed out lately
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From: Deno
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Takes a good man to apologize Patrick..
Deno
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From: lefty4
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Pat, go shot a couple hogs.
You'll feel better!
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From: Sawtooth (Original)
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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I agree with Nolz. This corona crap is putting most folks on edge. I say things I shouldn’t all the time. Even before the virus showed up- and then I wish I’d just kept quiet. Easier said than done!! No judgement here, friend. :)
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From: Dale Rohrbeck
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Pat, as you and 4nolz said, everyone is stressed out lately, don’t beat yourself up any further. I understand though, cause I need to keep my mouth shut sometimes.
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From: Red Dogs
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Stressful times! Yup go hunting!
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From: MStyles
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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pdk25, no judgement here either. I expect principled people to have strong opinions, It goes with the territory. However, I didn’t expect the response it got bc I was thinking it would be a yes/no response. Now I know better.
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From: Supernaut
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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All men make mistakes.
Men with good character make amends.
You're a good man, go chase some pigs!
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From: Sawtooth (Original)
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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I agree with the recommendations for pig therapy!!! It always works for me!
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From: Tree
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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I don't know a man alive that doesn't wish he could take something back he's said. I also know the man that forgives us for it. Don't sweat it. Go get a pig!!
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From: mgerard
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Go big or go home. You went big. I just might've stepped on a few toes myself. Some intentionally, but mostly to balance out the debates. My strategies are not always clear and apparent, so I will try to do better myself. Thanks for your contributions pdk, and most of the rest of you.
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From: Nemophilist
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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pdk25, No sweat. We all get a bug up our behinds now and then. Apologizing shows you're a good guy.
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From: Silverback
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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I've said things on here I've been sorry for so I know how you feel.
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From: grizz
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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"I can be quite juvenile at times". You are not alone. Didn't follow the thread but been there, done that.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Oh heck Patrick, we've all taken a shot at being horses butts now and then so you just roll with the punches. I never take anything personal even if I think it is..life's too short. Sometimes the smart alec just comes out and we can't go back and edit it here. Lots of free thinking personalities on here and that's more good than bad.
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From: 3under
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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It's all good brother, your entitled to your opinion, very stressful times right now. Be safe hopefully this crap is behind us soon.
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From: Skeets
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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All cool. I don't know what was in that thread. But I got to thinking about the stimulus money. It should be spent on something Made in the USA. I think a bow could easily fall into that category.
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From: WATERMOCCASIN
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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A wise man once told me,"if you don't take offense there will be no offense".If someone says something negative about you,examine if it is true and try to be better and if it is not forget about it.Thanks for the apology but not needed.
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From: Silverback
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Patrick, I am certain it bothers you much more than it bothered anyone else. Just move on and forget about it, Everyone else has.
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From: RWGreen
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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I didn't get a check so I'm doubly offended!
Men (and women) make mistakes. Adults own their mistakes and try to become better.
I didn't read your posts but the fact that you've taken ownership in this way makes you good in my book. Good on you! As I said, I missed the thread, but apology accepted! I like levity, especially during trying times. My guess is your comments wouldn't have offended me at all.
Blessings, well wishes and positive vibes to all!
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From: Heat
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Solid character on display here. No worries!
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From: 76aggie
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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It takes a big man to apologize. An even bigger one to apologize on the internet and in writing.
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From: Sinner
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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A solid response. A lot of men wouldn't do so. I agree that the covid19 situation has a lot of people stressed and angry; especially with the amount of people willing to trample our constitutional rights because they are scared. I best not say much more...
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From: White Falcon
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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No big deal here!! Hell, George and I take shots at each other all the time!
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From: DanaC
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Yeah, I been uglier than normal. Uncertainty is the wrong thing to drink.
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From: Babbling Bob
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Shoot fire pdk25, I noticed a few of mine were a little sarcastic lately. Must be some of this sitting around. Your one fine person to take the time to make your comments above.
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From: South Farm
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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More than Covid has this country on edge. We've been at each other's throats quite some time in the USA, but you're apology shows there's still a ray of hope we can one day all get along better!
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From: JT
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Takes a big man. Were all good brother!
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From: GLF
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Like I said before we all got opinions and you're just as entitled as anyone. I also see your point, but sometimes stress bring things out wrong. No big deal.
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From: Jim
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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I think your an ok guy Mr. Kelly. We all make mistakes!
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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HOW ABOUT A PICTURE OF YOUR BACK? lol
JUST KIDDING PAT.
IT TAKES THINGS LIKE THIS WHAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH TO REALLY CHALLENGE OUR LAST NERVE ALL WE HAVE LET.
GOD FORGIVES MAN DOESN'T AND THATS WHY WE HAVE TO BE TOLD TO ASK. THE ASKING IS FOR US. ALL GOOD ALL IS WELL IN THE KINGDOM.
SOME HAVE IT WORSE THAN OTHERS AND WHO KNOWS WHEN WE WILL SEE THIS DONE.
HOLD ONTO YOUR FRONT AND TRAP YOUR REAR DOOR BECAUSE THE STORM IS UPON US.
ALL ANY OF US HAS IS HOPE BUT WHEN THAT IS GONE THEN LOOK OUT.
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From: Boker
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Nice to see someone own up to a mistake on their part or what they feel like might be.
My hats off to you sir.
Personal responsibility is almost non existent in America today. I speak for myself but would be confident in saying we can all learn from your apology.
To many nasty comments and criticism on forums across the web.
I am here only because I enjoy talking about traditional archery with those that share the same passion.
We as Americans in a whole need to learn the art of disagreeing and still being a friend and Neighbor.
I can be the worlds worst at times.
Well done sir.
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From: swampwalker
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Seeing I've never said anything negative to anyone, I do not accept your apology. Kidding of course. Didn't see the thread, so in the grand scheme, it don't matter. Of Course I'm joking. I've had to apologize a couple times. Don't let it bother you. They probably deserved it. :^)
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From: GF
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Personally, I enjoy a little wrasslin’ now and again; but who (outside of hands-on healthcare workers) ISN'T going a little stir-crazy these days??
Sure wish we had something like pigs to keep us occupied up here.... Hell, I’d settle for Nutria right about now.
Wonder if I could locate my bowfishing components?
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From: Rough Run
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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I missed whatever it was, as usual. I suspect you've been more upset with yourself than anyone else would have been.
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From: D.Lewis aka tonto59
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Life is to short to sweat the small stuff Pat. Sure would like to see a thread when that Green Paul Bunyan feeds again. >>>;-)——>
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Guess I missed it. But I have no problems with anyone on here. It is stressful times for sure.
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From: Geezer
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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I didn't see it but I know how you might be feeling because I've done worse and DIDN'T apologize. I love remorseful people because we've all screwed up.
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From: GUTPILE PA
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Takes a man to know he made a mistake takes a even bigger man to apologize
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From: Danielb
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Patrick, If you don't get banned from the site and lose 3 thousand previous post, you obviously were not bad or not trying hard enough. JMO
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From: Brittman
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Patrick no worries my friend , each and every person on earth has said and done things they regret . Apologies accepted and issue already forgotten .
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From: Shoe
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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We all make mistakes, we all fall short of being the person we should be at times. The most important thing is what we learn from those things. I commend you my brother in being an example that most of us would only like to be.
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From: ground hunter
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Lighten up,,, this is just for entertainment... Never apologize for a vaild point that you made, if you believe it....
The world is full of sheep and sheep dogs, and this site has plenty of sheep
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From: pdk25
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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So stupid. Even the positive comments make me disgusted with myself. I don't even know how to explain that.
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From: Shoe
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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Your right ground hunter, there is a lot of good people here.??
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From: bigdog21
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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fishing, hunting, camping, good camp fire and a stiff drink, and traditional archery videos, best for de-stressing. any order will work. everyone here is good and yes we all get stressed. when i was a kid my Mom always told me If you dont have somthing nice to say dont say nothing at all.. I should of listttened to here more often.
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From: B arthur
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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My Dad always told me it takes a big man to apologize. It takes a bigger man to apologize when when you know you were right to begin with. You my friend are a good man.
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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No problem.
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 20-Apr-20 |
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I agree with George. We are kind of like family here. Things happen. I'm an ass a lot. I like to tease and be sarcastic but would do anything for my friends here.
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From: dagwood64
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Date: 21-Apr-20 |
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As it is said in the Lord's prayer..."Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us..."
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From: Lefty
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Date: 21-Apr-20 |
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God never gives up on anyone.
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From: reddogge
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Date: 21-Apr-20 |
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My personal solution to irritation and stress during these times is I rekindled a long lost hobby of carving hunting decoys again. I haven't carved in 29 years and now find I'm addicted again. I have tons of stuff on the internet to prowl now and then I can retreat into my shop. When I carved all through the 80s and into the 90s there was no internet.
Sometimes it's good to explore new things or just take a breather once in a while. Take it for what it's worth.
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From: lost run
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Date: 21-Apr-20 |
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Most of us say things at times we should have not said. Thanks for reminding us.
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From: 3feathers
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Date: 21-Apr-20 |
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We all have thrown rocks..no problem here.
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From: 1sthound
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Date: 21-Apr-20 |
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No offense taken, carry on.
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 21-Apr-20 |
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reddoggee I'd love to see a carve-a-long!
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From: reddogge
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Date: 21-Apr-20 |
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Since it's not archery related how about I send a few pictures to your email?
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From: Tom McCool
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Date: 21-Apr-20 |
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No worries Pat! A little head banging is fun! Thanks for the post. we all been there friend. Cheers!
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From: Sipsey River
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Date: 02-Jun-20 |
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It has been a tough year for everyone and does not seem to be getting any better yet. Hang in there everyone.
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From: LBshooter
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Date: 02-Jun-20 |
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Don't remember reading your posts , but good on you for correcting what you though was a mistake in judgement. A true man is never afraid apologize when he's wrong. ??
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From: woodshaft
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Date: 02-Jun-20 |
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Good way to man up and show what you are about pdk 25. When a mistake is made correct it and drive on. Hats off to you!!! Hang in there everybody we will get thru the COVID-19 and these difficult times. As my old 1st Sergeant would tell us "Hard times never last but Hard med do. We come from good stock in this country. We are not perfect but let us work to the goal of being better men. This debt we owe to our country and children,
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From: tinecounter
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Date: 02-Jun-20 |
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Welcome to the club. Been there, done that. Over & done, time to move on! But I guess if you really want to make it official. Oh yeah, there's a form for everything.
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 02-Jun-20 |
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Ok we get it there really doesn't need to be any excuses for the behavior. The one we really should apologize to is our Lord. I understand the Lord isn't everyone's father but for those it is then that's where it all begins.
I'm so angry myself I could tear off my cloths. This is terrible and for us that struggle with health it's even harder don't kid yourself it is. I have to look at myself and like how in creation will we get through all this nonsense. Well for me it's the hope in Christ that the Lord will overcome and set things straight for us all for both believers and the unbelievers.
All this has been long coming and we all knew it just not when. We saw little signs of things here and there but not what it all is for now is us way different.
We have to bare up under this with one another best we can and if the frustration comes out in any of us then we have to see just what we can do not to have thin skins and feed back into to make it worse and more chaos.
Do you want thin skin that if you walk by a thorn bush you get hung up in it. Go around that bush then and stand in the sun and get some Vit D because we need it to survive.
We don't need to elaborate then the message gets weak because we all are under the same stress.
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From: 1/2miledrag
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Date: 02-Jun-20 |
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I missed the thread and resulting hoopla, but go easy on yourself, I suspect we've all said things we are not proud of at some point.
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From: Dan W
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Date: 02-Jun-20 |
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Thanks to Tinecounter-
Just LOVE the Official Apology Form. I have copied and downloaded it, and will print out a dozen copies, that ought to last me about a week or two. (At least on the home front.)
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From: John Horvers
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Date: 02-Jun-20 |
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Everyone has said things that they wish that they had not, the measure of a man is whether he owns up to it , well done.
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From: reddogge
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Date: 02-Jun-20 |
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Some time has passed here so hopefully the subject is not so painful anymore. Remember Clint Eastwood's song "Don't let the old man in" ? My version on the internet is "Don't let the smartass in". And this has nothing to do with you, Patrick, just me.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 02-Jun-20 |
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These past few months haven’t been easy on us. I understand how a comment can happen. It does take a sincere person to recognize that fact.
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From: Basinboy
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Date: 02-Jun-20 |
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I’ve met Pat in person. He’s a great guy! Everyone has bad days, he owned up to his. Thumbs up buddy????
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From: Babysaph
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Date: 03-Jun-20 |
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No problem
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From: thehun
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Date: 03-Jun-20 |
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We need guys like you! To apologize is never easy but you have done it.
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From: AspirinBuster
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Date: 03-Jun-20 |
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Takes a big man to do that, well done sir.
The key here is to find a few folks who’s advice and council you respect and then follow their lead. There are many great folks here. Many. It’s like one big family.
Frank
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From: hcrat
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Date: 04-Jun-20 |
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Apologies are best without the excuses!
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From: Simple Man
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Date: 06-Jun-20 |
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To be honest I cant even believe I am logging in to reply to this. I'm fed up with leatherwall. Last post I posted was wishing Turkey hunters and bowfisherman well and my thread got hijacked and closed. How can you wish people well and your post get closed? I've never seen anything like it.
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From: Sasquatch73
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Date: 07-Jun-20 |
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Thanks Pat. Glad you were able to do this before the solar flare hits earth and wipes out the internet.
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