From: 76aggie
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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There have been a few threads as of late about roving and stump shooting. Many of use use judo points for this endeavor. I've noticed some folks have issues with the fake judo points that come from overseas. I have had the same issues with claws coming off and the bending of the points of these ersatz judo points.
A few years ago I bought some Ace Hex Heads from Ace Archery Tackle but never really used them for other than a few practice shots in the back yard. Last weekend, I went for an extended rove on Corp of Engineer Land which is all around my neighborhood. I took no points other than the Ace hex heads. I guess I am very late to the party but these heads are excellent! Cannot say enough about these heads. I did not shoot at any critters but flung many arrows at assorted junk, leaves, dirt clods and yes, rotten stumps. The forest floor here is mostly leaves. Never lost an arrow from it sliding up under leaves or glancing along the ground away from me. I had my doubts about these hex heads stopping when coming into contact with leaves, brush, etc but they really do the job even without the claw that my beloved judo points have.
I am sure I am preaching to the choir, but if you have never used these things, you need to. I'm sure they have been around for many years but just my first time to shoot them in earnest. Just as good as their broadheads.
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From: YH2268
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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Yep, the hex heads are great for roving in the woods. I like them better than judos, and you can't go wrong with Ace broadheads.
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From: YH2268
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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Yep, the hex heads are great for roving in the woods. I like them better than judos, and you can't go wrong with Ace broadheads.
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From: Fritz
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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Great heads that’s about all I use. Sometimes use judos but not very often.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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I used them for a few years and they worked fine. My main issue with them at the time was when using cedars, those edges could give enough torque on a stump or other solid hit to snap the arrow off behind the point. All in all that was minimal in the grand scheme of things but I went back to plain old glue on blunts for those arrows. They are durable for sure but also much more expensive than standard blunts. Ace makes great heads...including broadheads.
For screw on points, there are many things you can do as well; a small washer behind a field point works great to keep from losing them under the leaves, and you can get about a dozen of them for less then $2.00.
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From: grizz
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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They're great for roving, stumpin and devastating on bunnies.
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From: evilfirbolg
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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Love my hex heads. My go to roving rabbit/bird head. Just don't hit a rock with em if yer a wood arrow person.
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From: evilfirbolg
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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Had the exact same experience as Mr.Stout is what I meant.
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From: JJ
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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They work great and are cheaper then judos.
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From: mgerard
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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Put them on a footed Grizzly Stick and have a ball! Really great and affordable.
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From: Mpdh
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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I like shooting them, but they do not work very well in a bow quiver. Hard as heck to get the hex head into the hood. Guess I just have to use my back quiver when carrying them.
MP
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From: hawkeye in PA
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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They have been my go to stumping blunt for years on both aluminum and carbon.
I stick the nock end in the quiver for a day of stumping. for regular hunting I just enlarge one hole for the blunt.
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From: Pinecrest
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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I put a Muzzy Grasshopper behind em,works great!
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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Use them and like them alot
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From: Earl Mason
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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Ace is great stuff.
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From: Eric S
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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Always have at least one in my bow quiver.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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would also like to add
their Broadheads take a back seat to nothing Been using the ACE standards for almost 40 years and no complaints
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From: evilfirbolg
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Date: 07-Apr-20 |
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This thread just reminded me that I'm down to four. Ordered 6 more 160s today.
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From: Stumpkiller
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Date: 08-Apr-20 |
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I like the Ace Hex as well as any stump/small game head. VERY durable.
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From: Brad Young
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Date: 08-Apr-20 |
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Great heads. Been using them on Easton 2020 shafts and they are fantastic. Starlings beware lol.
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From: RJH1
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Date: 08-Apr-20 |
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I like them, but i think it depends on what/where you are shooting. I shoot in a lot of grassy areas and the hex, while better than a blunt, definitely loses out to the judo for lost arrows. I guess it is like anything else, you gotta match the equipment to the task at hand
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From: The Lost Mohican
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Date: 08-Apr-20 |
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Ace are well built. they work for me on small game, and are better than Judos for that task. I have been stump shooting with wood arrows for a very long time, and nothing is better than a Judo tipped ash arrow. The most unforgiving environment for me is the rock laden Pocono Mountains. Every stump was surrounded by arrow eating rocks at angles that would challenge any arrow material and head. Judos tipped Ash arrows rule. Many years ago GDS posted a video of A jack pine being felled with repeated shots with a Zwicky Judo, by its inventor. Stay safe everyone. TLM
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From: todd
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Date: 08-Apr-20 |
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Welcome to the club, Bob makes great products have used them for years. The heads are great for stumping, but wait till you see what they do to a squirrel, awesome.
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From: Mike E
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Date: 08-Apr-20 |
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"Hard as heck to get the Hex head into the hood". I put the nock end into the hood with Judos and blunts, put a field point in about half way to make the initial hole. It saves wear on the hood and holds the sahfts just as well.
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From: JusPassin
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Date: 08-Apr-20 |
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I just take my soldering iron, make a hole in the hood for the blunt. Works just fine, and Bob doesn't make no junk. Broadheads and blunts are all top notch.
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From: ESP
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Date: 08-Apr-20 |
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I don’t think makes any bad products. Most if not all are outstanding.
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From: PeteA
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Date: 08-Apr-20 |
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Hummmmm, I have a few. Might try them again after reading this post. I'm going to try them with the Tiger Claw star collar behind them.
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From: PeteA
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Date: 08-Apr-20 |
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From: DHay
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Date: 08-Apr-20 |
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Yes PeteA ! They don't get under the duff with those collars on them. That is the way I like to carry them and loose those Ace heads.
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From: Geezer
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Date: 08-Apr-20 |
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I have pulled .22 bullets from their cases, melted them into a 38 or 357 case. At 40 grains per bullet you can figure the weight you want.
Another way, if you shoot wood, is to drill a hole through your field point and drive a cut off finishing nail through it.
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From: eddie c
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Date: 08-Apr-20 |
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I like my ace hex heads but they still bury under leaves and grass where I shoot.
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From: recurve ron
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Date: 09-Apr-20 |
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stump shooting is the only way i practice . Been shooting rubber blunts for a very long time and i always will however, i recently discovered ace hex . Im very pleased to say the least . They fly greeat and are always easy to find . The best part is they are squirrel killing machines , rubber blunts aren't . You can practice with them till there are no sharp points left , then resharpen them with a 1/2 " drill bit and go kill squirrels . Very effecient .
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From: GF
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Date: 09-Apr-20 |
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Rubber blunts are just fine; they hit squirrels like a hammer...just as long as you have something to use as an anvil. Otherwise, it’s a headshot or a lost squirrel.
Somebody here pointed out to me Judos are not a great choice for bunny hunting when you have to shoot through thick brush in order to make contact; that makes sense to me. I’ve killed a bunch of rabbits with Judos, but I’ve never made it a habit to shoot at them when they are buried in a thicket.
I’ve just recently gotten turned on to the hex blunts, and I haven’t had a chance to do any small game hunting with them yet. They don’t seem to be a whole lot better choice for stumping than Judos (unless you’re shooting into actual stumps, logs, etc and you never miss and rocks are uncommon... but for small game, I can see where having those sharper edges available to work like a cookie cutter as the arrow passes through.... well, that should confer a meaningful benefit.
So really, they all have a place in my quiver. Rubber blunts get the nod in town for varmint control; Judos are great for most of my stumping, hex blunts are probably the best bet for small game. It’s all good!
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From: Pappy 1952
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Date: 14-Apr-20 |
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Great points and deadly on small game plus Bob is a great guy to deal with. Pappy
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From: GF
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Date: 14-Apr-20 |
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Too bad there’s not a Scorpio for the glue-ons!
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From: Aeronut
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Date: 15-Apr-20 |
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Take a 125 grain 11/32 point and press it into a .38 special case. No lead melting and easy to make.
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From: GF
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Date: 15-Apr-20 |
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Do you drop the point in through the mouth of the cartridge for that?
Probably not real durable but it could get you the coveted cookie-cutter wound channel....
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From: Aeronut
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Date: 15-Apr-20 |
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Take a 125 grain field point and place the point into the mouth of a .38spl case. Place it in a vise and press the field point into the case. Easy and simple.
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From: Aeronut
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Date: 15-Apr-20 |
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Glue the blunt onto your shaft. I've been shooting a set of these for over a dozen years and haven't broken one yet. VERY durable.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 15-Apr-20 |
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Aeronut- thats a great EZ do idea
never crossed my mind to do that
But gonna be doing that
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From: BooBoo
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Date: 15-Apr-20 |
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Drill a hole through the Ace Hex Head in front of the taper. Put a piece of good heavy weed eater line through it so it hangs out 1/2 inch each side. Really helps keep the arrow above leaves and weeds. The trimmer line is very durable. Works almost as good as a regular Judo at a much lower price.
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From: GF
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Date: 15-Apr-20 |
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Ha! I was imagining using a screw in point in going the opposite direction...
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From: 76aggie
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Date: 16-Apr-20 |
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Great ideas Lads.
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From: Therifleman
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Date: 16-Apr-20 |
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They work very well. And they are very inexpensive when you consider that, once purchased you rarely, if ever lose one-- and they certainly don't break. Add to that the number of arrows theyll save you from losing and they are a great investment.
Ive tried all the diy fixes--- tnuts behind field pts for example. But the ace is worth every penny.
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