I most recently added Morrison Max 6 limbs to my beloved DAS handle. 40 Lbs. It is really loud and I'm not sure what do. its hard to describe the sound but kind of sounds like a shopping cart. I've killed deer with it and they don't mind but boy it bothers me.

One of those plastic car-shaped carts that haul screaming rug-rats around while mom obliviously shops, or a metal cart slamming into the side of your truck parked in the back 40? Or more like one with one front wobbly wheel? Be specific so we can better help!

Have to figure out where the sound is comiing from. Is it the string on the limbs, the limps in the limb pockets?

I can't figure it out. I've put felt on the limbs and the limb pockets

Have ya tried heavier arrows?

Make sure you don't have your limb bolts cranked all the way in and don't be shy about going to a heavier arrow.

Heavy arrows are band aids in most cases. Is the arrow smacking the riser/rest on its way out? Does it bare shaft tune well as-is? Sometimes just changing string materials makes a difference.

I suggest you try a dacron string.

Hey Jack, can you send me an email. I want to send you some pictures.

Bowmania

I think that there is so much vibration after the shot on the super limbs that it causes the limbs to rattle in the limb pockets. Try a little thin leather or felt around the groove in the end of the limb. I know that works great on Hoyt Buffalos to take away that buzzy sound.

Heavier arrows, change string padded loops and skinny.

Just a thought - have someone else shoot it and see if it's still loud. I have a bow that sounds VERY loud to me, but people around me say it just sounds like a typical recurve. When I handed it off for someone else to shoot, it sounded about half as loud - there is something about that bow that makes it seem particularly loud to the shooter, but it's really not as loud to those nearby.

On my DAS risers some limbs are just louder than others but there are things you can do to minimize the noise. Check your brace height and your tiller. Other than limb design those are the two main reasons for noise. If you're shooting light arrows going to arrows closer to 10 gpp will deaden the sound but that isn't fixing the problem.

If you're using the DAS connection the limbs shouldn't be rattling in the limb pocket like they can with ILF fittings.

On my DAS I'm shooting 7 3/8" brace height with 1/16" positive tiller (I shoot split finger) and most limbs I have are pretty quiet.

I believe yours is a SR, so talk to Bowmanina on how he handles it. It may be as simple as a brace height adjustment. Using heavy arrows only addresses the symptoms as Pear Drums said...it's not finding the answer. That bow shouldn't be so awful noisy.

If the deer don't mind then maybe something as simple as ear plugs would do the trick:)

Does anybody else standing around you think it's loud.

I -shooting a freinds Morrison with S imbs for limbs. Wanted to see how I felt about it. It was 53lbs at 28 and we were shooting 650 grain arrows at 185 FPS. The noise was just a tad more then my Dale Dye as a reference. Light arrows for speed and its a sonic boom. they are meant for heavy arrows and spine increases.

HH, Babysaph already killed a deer with that "loud trad bow". Right brace height and a decent weight arrow will do. I have my HEX 6.5 quieted down and I shoot ~9.3 gpp arrow. If he hears a shopping cart sound, I think his arrow is hitting the riser or something with DAS riser's ILF conversion/connection is not quite right.

Bare shaft tunes perfecto have tried heavier aluminum arrows also. I would mess with the arrows as good as they fly. I’m shooting 10 grains per pound

Tried putting felt in the limb pockets and on the limb grooves. And yes my buddies think it is loud too.

If possible, try another string material.

Here it is a copy/paste from another site regarding the Border limbs, but I don't see why this cant apply to Max limbs too:

"Spine causing tail end contact with the riser. Limb alignment, causing the string to settle in the groove mid power. limb butts chattering in the pocket (again low stress at BH), also exagerated by limb timing issues.

so, Simple solutions are to slowly test the areas of concern

electricians tape on the limb bolt to limb butt and riser face to limb butt conact points, to see if the noise changes.

Full check of bow alignment as per Buzz's bow alignment post in the main methodology section of AIUK

Very slack nock/reduce string stand count considerably. 16 strands will be fine in our view.

and check for fletch damage..."

LimbSavers?

If your killing deer with it why does it matter. Wear ear plugs.

Don't ignore unusual or increasing noises!

As a result of several threads here on noisy bows, velcro rests, and string silencers, I decided to replace the velcro rest and add some earplug silencers to my '73 DH Hunter that has been noisier than it should be. Cleaning off the old glue from the shelf, I discovered a dark, fine crack extending into the upper grip area below the shelf.

I'm hoping the Loctite 420 does its job and stops the crack. Hopefully the clanking noise will be gone, too.

Big hook limbs are loud. (that would be a period)

The Reason?: "At Static" the limb tips of low brace big hook limbs are located well forward of where conventional limb tips reside where as the string is drawn those big hooks cover about 2-3X's the distance to get to full draw than the tips of a high brace conventional limb does because (and for verification) the string grooves of those big hooks themselves wrap, seat and contact about 2-3X's the string length that conventional limbs do so?...

When you have that much tip forward big hook limb tip movement?...you have a limb that is moving and moving through 2-3X's the air that a conventional limb does meaning?...

It's like comparing the sounds of short waiving a 12" ruler through the air or taking a big huge stroke with a fly swatter.

Babysaph, you can try my empirical method to find the "right" tiller: I hold the bow like I want to shoot it, no arrow on the string, pull shortly the string like you were drawing and let go of it - It's like I am drumming the string. If I hear a "clank" limblike noise I adjust the tiller on positive side (I start the experiment with even tiller). The Border HEX 6.5 limb on my Black Wolf riser like a 1/8" positive tiller even if I shoot 3under - with the nock point 5/8" above 90 and BH 6 5/8"

Many times it is string slap - especially with big hooks. 2 to 3 inches of padding in the area it comes from is all that is needed most of the time. The pic depicts this area. Also add a set of most any silencer further down for vibration.

jim you are right. It shoots great and deer don't mind so I am going to ignore it. LOL.

I shoot limbs with the big curve, nothing I could do got them quiet except the dacron string. You need to try one.

the deer don't mind until you get one that turns inside out at the shot.

I've had deer jump the string with quiet bows as well. Part of it. Those limbs got me back in the game, will probably make a new bow after the first of the year.

You don't need big hook limbs at 40# to kill deer. I do it with a 40# Samick Sage with a good string. I only draw that bow to 35#, and it gives me two holes on 200# white tails.

Carbon limbs and big hooks will make noise.

Ear plugs. 2 for you,and 2 for the deer.For real though, mole skin, limb savers,Pads in limb pockets,powder puffs,and padding string ends will all aid in making a bow more quiet. With most self bows you none of that. With super recurves you may need all of that to get them as quiet as you want.My Fivics ILF is set up with all the above, and is very quiet now.

babysaph....the last sentence of your OP...

“ I've killed deer with it and they don't mind but boy it bothers me.”

the noise played a significant role in me losing my appeal for big hooks as well...among other things...they just don’t offer up a suitable level of tranquility.

I'm with Jinkster, they are less "tranquil".

However, The Morrison Max5's I had for a spell on a Black Wolf riser was one of the meanest setups I've ever shot.

I got it quiet with several things- Mountain Muffler string, slightly higher than recommended brace height- I think I was 8" on the money with the Black Wolf (it has a lot of deflex) AND 12-13gpp arrows and it STILL was a blazer.

Honestly with SR's to me it's the heavier arrows that make the most difference and that's not a bad thing, to me that's what they are for in a hunting application.

The Max5's with 12-13gpp shot as fast and flat to me as a "regular" recurve does with 10gpp.

Jinkster and deerhunt51 X2. If you know how to tune an arrow and sharpen a broadhead And can place that arrow where it needs to go 40# is plenty.

I'll take a slower quieter rig anyday.

RC - you haven't shot a Bushmen...

Right on Therifleman. I can't tolerate a loud bow, as the deer I hunt will not be where they were when I shot when the arrow gets there!!!

I've shot at a few deer - they never react until my arrow flies over their back.... so I guess my bow is pretty quiet.

I had a feeling my bow was alittle loud. When I took a poke at a buck at 23 yards. He dropped and turned so much I hit him behind the ear. Dead right there lucky. Time to reevaluate.

Jack, Something I forgot to mention which I tried. I believe it's an idea from Jim Casto. He puts liquid electrical tape on the areas of the limb contact. I believe he was shooting Uukhas.

Jinks is correct on SR's being loud. It's the same reason a .222 is louder than a .22. They deliver a lot more energy than a conventional recurve. That doesn't mean you can't make them quiet. You have energy to burn. That picture I sent you WILL help.

All that said and everything above about loud bows. I don't think it makes one iota of difference. I've seen deer that don't even flinch when a gun goes off less than a 100 yards away. BUT I have seen deer jump out of their skin when a loud flying bird flew near. I think it's the arrow they're ducking. I have a posted a video on here that seemed to support that theory. Can't find it now.

One last thing drab fletching is quieter than the bright colors, especially in the sunlight. Seems the light reflecting off those colors is much fast and creates a sonic boom effect.

Bowmania

The idea that dacron material is quieter is simply incorrect. The idea that adding arrow weight to quiet a bow, by absorbing energy, has been used for a long time.

K Cummings. I will check but what do I do if I do have that?

You just sand the end of the limbs. The most I've seen is less than 1/16". Then seal the end with some super glue and you're all set.

Different string materials do make a huge difference to some bows. A magic one for me has been 452X. or X99 Tedd

No ear muffs. I’m getting rid of the limbs. They are great limbs and shoot unreal. I just can’t get em quiet.

I have the Max 6's too and I switched from BCY X to B50 and was AMAZED at how big of a difference it made. It was dramatic....

Happy as can be now. My arrows actually went from slightly weak to perfect too, so worked out really well.

I really like the Shakespeare Cascade, but those 2.5” wide broadbow limbs disrupt my internal harmony.

If the limb butt is too long and making contact with the pocket end, shim the radius of the "U" by painting on several layers of fingernail polish or some other suitable paint. If the contact is extreme, glue a thin piece of cork, fabric, whatever, into the radius. It is much faster and you won't have to remove material from the limb butt end.

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