Not sure if my kids are going to be able to go to college... not even sure if I've got money for gas next week... but I saw that I missed a call from Jim Neaves last night. Looks like my spot in line came up.

55# glass Cocobolo and Osage coming right up!

I hope I can cut it up and eat it...

So your teaching your children to be self sufficient, helping their future by not burning gasoline next week, and the bow! What is the problem? ????

I have two grown children, both of whom have 4 year degrees. They both worked two jobs while in school and both paid their own way through. I paid them nothing. I have a BS and MS degrees, which I earned and worked for. No one paid me for mine.

No sympathy from me for anyone who can't cut it.

I can see I've come to the right group!!

Let me be clear. My response was in jest. I paid for my undergraduate and graduate education as well as my children’s. Still my response was meant in a humorous light

We had 2 going at the same time. We gave each of them what we could each year (not much) and they worked and got student loans for the rest. They were 2 years apart. We paid their student loan payments for the first year to help them get started after graduation. No way could we have paid for it either.

Funny. True to the American spirit which is sad. In all honesty. I'm glad my parents didnt pay for my college. Just the other day my mother said something about it. I graduated high school. Got my Mariners documents and sailed fir 3 years all the time saving money. Came home and paid cash for school. Then still had money left for a down payment on a house. That's why college is so expensive, government loans and the institutions know it doesnt matter what they charge, they still always get paid.

Broad brush painting is difficult. A higher education may take 2 years or 15, depending on the field of study. The costs and availble loans are vastly different. In our family we all do what we can, the parents and the children. A group effort which has served us well and created mutual respect.

One thing that the college bound kids had better prepare for, is an education that is PRACTICAL. Some degrees MIGHT NOT BE WORTH the paper that they are printed on. I was fortunate that my prime nephew got Pell grants Neither I or his parents could have paid very much for his college courses. I had a decent computer and printer that helped out. As best that I remember, HE worked some part time jobs to help with the costs. GOOD LUCK & BLESSED BE!

There are military scholarships as an option. We paid for my son's freshman year at T.A.M.U. and then he took an army scholarship for the last three years. It did not pay for everything but was a substantial help and also paid him a monthly stipend. He did 9 years active duty and when he got out, he got his Executive M.B.A. Between the G.I.Bill and his employer, they paid 100% of that.

Do the community college-transfer to a state university route. Usually cost-effective for covering the freshman and sophomore years, most 4 year universities have transfer agreements, and at the end, only the institution which granted the bachelor's degree will be noted

At least your priorities or on the right track Jarhead, i know it's a joke, bigjohn

Life is really a series of choices. You are the only person that can make or change a choice concerning you and/or your family. Random people on the internet do not have that power.

if no education today ?? good luck on your grass cutting jobs.

Bows are cheap entertainment comparatively speaking .

Tons of good jobs out there today that don't require an education. In ten years or less finding someone who knows how to use a shovel or do any manual labor will be a challenge. I used to think college was a good investment. Not so sure now. Buying the bow is also a poor investment but alot more fun.

Par boil it and use lots of ketchup. Chew extremely well, may cause cancer in the state of CA.

Just went to my grandsons graduation last week. Only 4 percent of grads entering a trade school. Many of those jobs paying 2x what a college degree is. You will sweat and come home tired though.

Kids come before new bows. I pushed my, now grown, kids pretty hard. We did need to give them limited support, but my daughter has a Masters in education and my son is a CPA/Auditor for an Iowa fortune 100 company, currently heading their acquisition team. With the current invasion from the south thanks to the NWO, wages on the bottom end will not be going up to any appreciable amount anytime time soon. Who knows, maybe when you are older one of your kids can buy you a new bow and keep your gas tanks full for you. Just kidding, voluntary goodwill is a good thing, mandatory goodwill, Bernie S. style, is never a good thing.

My kids got Pell and PHEA grants and worked to pay for their schooling. Now they have kids that have already completed college, and or about to enter. They learn respect by knowing that it isn't free and all paid for by dad and mom. These days you would be better off learning trade. Welders are needed and can make $70,000 a year from the get-go in many places, while many BS and BA degrees are pretty much useless by the time they are done.

Jarhead, from your handle you were a USMC vet, the saying was "over come and adapt" and that has hold true in everything in life. Priority is the blue print also, taught this to my sons. Just a suggestion on the bow, I would drop the # to 50# at least if you need to sale it, 45- 50# bows are the sweet spot for a quicker sale.

Not to worry, Jarhead.

The old fable about the grasshopper and the ant is worth remembering. In my version, the grasshopper plays the fiddle and buys recurves all summer, while the ant is hard at work cutting his firewood. About the time winter arrives, a woodpecker spots the ant lugging wood and eats him...which allows the grasshopper to move in with Mrs. Ant, and gives him a warm dry place to keep his bow collection for the winter. The moral is that ants are chumps. Now go order that bow, LOL!

Forget college go to a trade school or get in an apprenticeship somewhere they will pay you to learn a skill. My son like myself is an operating engineer (IUOE) and earns twice what most of his college buddies make.

Well this won't last long

Ditto of what Thumper said!

The amount of money you spend on it won’t put a scratch in what they need for college. That amount of gas won’t get you anywhere. Get the bow!

"Tons of good jobs out there today that don't require an education."

Safer to say that there are a lot of good jobs that don't require a 4 year degree. Not quite the same thing.

Too many people equate 'an education' with a piece of paper. Skills, knowledge and experience come from *doing*.

Skilled trades & machinists at all levels come to mind. Welding. Auto mechanics. I have an old friend who never did a day in college, rebuilds giant turbines for power plants all around the world. Another worked on planes in the Navy, went to aviation tech school after his service, and spent the next 30 years rebuilding jet engines.

Not too many on this site recognize tongue-in-cheek humor jarhead. I know you'll enjoy that Centaur when it eventually arrives. Good choice.

Traditional bows are one of the few things that I buy that don't have terrible depreciation. The bow won't depreciate 15% the first time that you use it as a car will do. And don't worry if the kids don't go away to college. They will only come back anyway. College is over-rated. Tell them to find a trade. (and sadly, that is a real truth)

If it's a custom bow, at least you an be safe in the knowledge that if times get really hard, you can always sell it for 1/3 what you paid for it.

Most good tradesman never run low on work . QUALITY never goes out of style . A college degree does not gaurentee you a good job .I agree the trades are always in demand . i personally know guys that never went to trade school that are outstanding people in there trade .

Frank's Red Hot Sauce, I put that SH** on Everything...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_-GymgIQaQ

Well that link didn't work... Skip it

I'd give up archery for my kids.BUT!!! You are under no obligation to put them through college.We all should do what we can for our children.Fill out papers,check out schools,jobs,skills that suit them ie:contribute to their well being.If they can't cut it ->you help them to cut it.If you were part of a mountain climbing team wouldn't you do everything you could to keep your team members alive.Your children have to be flexible ,too.I guess i'm with Dean.If there was a choice between a job and a bow(gas to get to work)I'd take the job.There are plenty of people with college degrees that end up in factories or driving trucks.

by NO education I was referring to high school :)

Well... my fun-intending post took a turn!

I guess that's why they call it a "sense" of humor.

Jarhead, I thought it was funny! Some just don’t get it.

I thought it was funny too. I really thought Crookedsticks comment was funny too. Jim

Really Sue cheap entertainment? You strung my bows nothing cheap about them at all ever my bows weren't. They all came with a cost.

I wish I had the sense to not have had so many bows built or bought they have strangled me and now with the disease I struggle with even further reinforce what God didn't want me to do.

Jar are you reaching out for help? Or are you crying you don't have the means to get this bow or just spit it out.

We are not mind readers and reading between lines is fake news!!!!!!

This is a sensitive subject and by no means should be laughed at but if Jar is making fun of something like this then he gets his own reward. It could be much worse than going hungry. Think about it before more fake news is laid on.

Sweetheart-What a sense of humor!Next we'll have posts on whether to have chemo or radiation for Cancer or just shoot up and go into the woods.?! I'm sure some of us have some slight money problems and a few even have problems with our children.There are many lures in Archery to spend money.Money that is not readily available and could be used for more important things.There is an Archery course i'd like to take-$3000.I don't have it and you wouldn't believe the credit card bills .Of course i'm thinking of dumping $500 on bows($300 already gone)Archery is my passion/obsession and spending is my demon.PS-I know this guy who lives Social Security check to SS check.He worked hard /family illness and cads took his money. But he loves archery.He is an American Archer and the lack of money forces a lot of tough choices on him.///So why don't we just get back to joking about CANCER~mine is currently in remission.LOL?

Tell your kids if they want to go to college to go ask their "Uncle Sam" for the money and enjoy your new bow...maybe you can shoot a squirrel for supper if you're really lucky! :)

Your post was great and so were the variety of comments it generated.

My son was a heavy construction equipment repairer in the Army and makes over 30 dollars an hour.

My wife went to the Mayo School of Health Sciences and makes over 30 dollars an hour.

Success can come from every possible route. Good shooting with the new bow.

I thought it was funny, that's why I mentioned the Frank's Hot Sauce, I put that **** on Everything. Some folks just want to jump to judging and preaching and the humor plum escaped them. They were lost.

I sure miss the Pirates of Archery!!

dgb

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