Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


New (weird) shot sequence

Messages posted to thread:
Roadrunner 23-Apr-19
fdp 23-Apr-19
SB 23-Apr-19
Roadrunner 23-Apr-19
Bowmania 24-Apr-19
rallison 24-Apr-19
Viper 24-Apr-19
Roadrunner 24-Apr-19
RymanCat 24-Apr-19
From: Roadrunner
Date: 23-Apr-19




I started experimenting a little yesterday and am getting pretty good results so far. This may not be new to y'all, but it is to me. I will attempt to explain. I start my draw, shoulder towards the target, My bow arm is bent as I bring my string hand to anchor point. After I get to anchor with my string hand, I extend my bow arm toward the target (aligning the arrow) and release/let the string go. This works better if I cant the bow slightly.

Now, as I extend my arm I am also shifting my weight to my forward foot. This seems to hold promise for moving targets and skeet. Anybody else do something like this?

From: fdp
Date: 23-Apr-19




Extending/pushing the arm forward is the same movement essentially as an Olympic shooter pushing through a clicker or as Jim Ploen would have called it, evening the load. I push to the target, but I don't shift my weight. And I also don't shoot a canted bow (at least not consciously canted) unless conditions call for it. Pushing toward the target tends to make left/right flyers disappear. It simply helps create proper alignment. You push with one hand you have to pull with the other.

From: SB
Date: 23-Apr-19




Yep,your basic push-pull.You MUST keep pushing AND pulling until the arrow is gone!

From: Roadrunner
Date: 23-Apr-19




I had my wife videoing me last week to determine my actual draw length. I saw that I was collapsing some after reaching full draw and trying to hold it. I like the way this feels.

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 24-Apr-19




Frank and I don't disagree to often, but I don't like doing more than one thing at a time. You're doing 3.

Would you shift your weight to the front foot when you're squeezing the trigger on a rifle.

Moving targets is another story. The shot should be subconscious. Learn to shoot stationary targets subconsciously first.

Bowmania

From: rallison
Date: 24-Apr-19




I used to push pull, but gave it up long ago. Along with a bit of a "swing draw" it was too much movement for whitetails...to me anyway.

But whatever works for YOU, eh? I'm on a few different pages...BBQ, bagpipes, in particular in addition to archery. As of late, on all of em there's been a noticeable influx of the "my way is the only way" ilk.

Trolls, keyboard tough guys, whatever...I dunno. But I scroll by them and go about my day. :^)

From: Viper
Date: 24-Apr-19




RR -

Yes and no. The Italian Olympic guys do exactly that for the clicker break, and is described in Vittorio's "Heretic Archer". So, it can work with exceptionally well trained archers. For most however, not so much, as it introduces another draw length variable.

All Olympic shooters (and all good shooters for that matter) do is push the bow towards the target, but the movement itself is from the shoulder, very subtle, and usually only seen by its effect on the follow-through. The "unbalanced equilibrium" is necessary to prevent collapse on release.

Long story, short, While it can work, most folks are better off not using a visible bow arm extension at anchor.

Viper out.

From: Roadrunner
Date: 24-Apr-19




BM, I shift my weight to my forward foot when I shoot a shotgun at a moving target. Same as this. Viper, I'll get my wife to video me as I shoot to see if I am doing anything with my elbow or just shoulder. I'm not where I can shoot right now and really not sure if I described it right. Straight up Olympic style form works great for me for stationary targets, not so much for moving targets though.

From: RymanCat
Date: 24-Apr-19




Like SB said. Now work on perfecting.





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