From: PeteA
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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Like many others here I'm a diehard aluminum guy. Been shooting them since the early 80's. I shoot 2016s now. I hunt, shoot 3d and stump shot. I find I get most bends in the first couple inches back from the point.I was just wondering what all you aluminum guys use to straighten any bent arrows?
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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I bend very few , and buy the cheap ones (Jazz/Tributes)
so if cant sraighten well enogh by hand to use as stumpers
I just kep the inserts and point and trash them
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From: timex
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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I know it's not the answer to the question. but to each his own when I made the switch to carbons I had two 5 gallon buckets full of x7s xx75s xx78s from 1816 to 2419. unfortunately near the end is the toughest to get straight
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From: Bender
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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I use one of these:
https://www.arizonaarchery.com/products
Got it a long time ago, so wasn't so expensive. At this price one may want to consider building something. So at least there's a picture to give you an idea.
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From: Nemophilist
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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I haven't shot aluminum for a long time but I still have my Arizona arrow straightener somewhere stored away that I use to use to straighten them.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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Aluminum arrow straighteners work just fine, I have an old Groves that will work very well and has adjustable spacers for short bends (close together). An arrow straightener will cost you about as much as a dozen good carbon arrows...maybe a couple bucks more. And since this is about aluminum, not carbon, those bends behind the point can be made straight enough to at least use for practice and stumping if not hunting.
Contrary to what is said, most bends in aluminum in my experience are well behind the tip area and with little time on the Groves will come out well enough for any use. I've been using them since the late 60's and if I thought they weren't plenty good enough, I would have changed long ago. They won't explode and drive shards into your bow arm either. It would only take one of those in a lifetime to ruin your day.
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From: Dennis in Virginia
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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I have been straightening aluminums for close to 50 years. For bends near the tip of the arrow, I use a hand straightener like the Cartel sold by 3 Rivers. Using a long target point with the Cartel, I can usually get bends real close to the end straight enough to use for stumping and 3-D. For regular bends I use an Arizona dial indicator straightener that I have used since the mid 70s. Those straighteners have paid for themselves many times over in saved arrows.
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From: Gray Goose Shaft
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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I bought a old straightener made by Full Adjust Archery Products in Lancaster PA. It works well for me. Some straighteners are made of aluminum, some steel, and some plastic.
Our club has a small straightener that was sold by Martin. It has a dial in the center to measure the deflection and operates with a lever that rotates to the left. You have to allow for the offset of where the force is applied by the lever compared to the location of where the dial measures the deflection.
A lot of mine bend near the point. I think if the point stops in a hard surface like a tree or piece of lumber, the point stops abruptly and the rest of the shaft bends excessively from side to side.
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From: Sawtooth (Original)
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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I do what Andy man said- aluminum arrows are so inexpensive that I don’t fuss over a bent one. If I can’t shoot it, it goes down the road. That not the answer to your question though. Sorry.
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From: Snow Crow
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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May I suggest internally footing your aluminums? A small section of carbon arrow or wood dowel behind the insert will strengthen the front part of the shaft considerably and decrease those niggly bends and creases.
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From: NormF
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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If it's not too bad I roll the arrow on a flat surface to find the bend then I bend the opposite way. On a thick walled shaft like 2018 or 2020 I will bend it using my knee. I can usually get it straight enough for targets or stumping.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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I have one of those dial straighteners but use these others mostly. When I bought my AAE? the dealer provided a threaded T wrench to screw into the insert. That makes an extension to hold the tool for getting those behind the point bends.
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From: YamahaYG68
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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I bought this Arten Straightener in the early 1990's; I still use it.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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I use a Grayling straightener like the ones pictured with the rollers, lever and dial indicator.
I don't need to get it out very often even thought I rove a lot...tin arrows are tougher than you think. I will never use carbon due to the danger of them exploding into my bow arm...
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From: raghorn
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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In the 80s Nirk made a 3" long insert for aluminum shafts. This insert reduced bends. If the shaft did bend behind the insert, it was far enough back that a straightener could be used more effectively.
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From: babysaph
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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Man George you are right I have seen an arrow in a guys hand and it was not pretty and as I get older I am finding myself more accident prone. LOL. I am starting to like the pop cans. LOL.
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From: Wild Bill
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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IMHO, nothing works as good as the Straight-N-Arrow, as shown in the post by M60gunner. No longer produced, last one I found was from Canada. I've used it since the 1980's. The blocks that hold the arrow are excellent for getting those close to the point bends out. By using only one eye and watching the shaft as it rotates in front of the curved piece, even slight bends are found and easily straightened. I think if mine were ever lost, or gives up the ghost, I would seriously work on fabricating a replacement.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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Wild Bill, I orginally bought my Straight in Arrow for when we shot the “smoker rounds” back in the 80’s. It will be one of the items that I earmark for the kids not to sell for a buck at that last yard sale of my stuff.
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 22-Apr-19 |
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Actually I as well do as Andy man. I used to bend them but then got a little better at shooting. I tried a couple straighteners and didn't like them and rather hand straighten ones that are slight.
Ones the are bent down by the points end I just make tomato stakes or plant stacks they work good for be re-purposing those.
They you can cut them and use to splice carbons. either ends.
The game getters were the junk I thought I could look at them and they bent the later aluminum's were great and the Legends even better yet.
The Blues and the blacks purty but found a little softer.
If i would shoot a stump I make sure I have a judo. Sometimes you just can't get by a rock shooting into ground.
You can find a lot of aluminum's around reasonable today. You don't need a power saw either can cut them with a pipe cutter a little one works sweet.
Use the arrow to take a varmint in your garden if its got a little bend and you don't want to shoot it at anything else.
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From: Bernie P.
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Date: 23-Apr-19 |
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I have the red handle one in M60gunner pic.It works well except for bends right near the tip.About 15 bucks when I got it.
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From: Muddyboots
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Date: 23-Apr-19 |
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I have a Groves straightener. Works good except for bends by the end.
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From: NY Yankee
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Date: 23-Apr-19 |
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A friend of mine found an old 2x4 (actual dimension) made from Maple. We drilled a 3/8 hole into it on the edge side at a shallow angle. If you are careful, you can straighten bends on the ends of aluminum. We also did one hole through the flat side to work out other bends.
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From: sack
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Date: 23-Apr-19 |
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By far the best straightener I've used(and with NASP/4H kids that's quite a few)) has been 12" piece of shovel handle with a 5/16ths(or larger/smaller) hole drilled clear through about an inch from either end.Find bend, insert arrow just to the bend and use the handle to exert pressure to straighten shaft. Support the straight part of the shaft with one hand and squeeze inward with the handle.You'll feel the shaft give with experience. Even some pretty nasty bends right above the point became servicable.Double bends are a challenge but work one out at a time starting with closest to middle and they too lived to fly another day. Love to rehab arrows this way. Sack
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From: PeteA
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Date: 23-Apr-19 |
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Hey NY Yankee and sack. Any pics available of those 2 straighteners you guys mentioned? Would love to see how to make one. Thx PeteA
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From: David Mitchell
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Date: 23-Apr-19 |
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I too use the Groves--have had it for years and does the job just fine.
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From: Roadrunner
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Date: 23-Apr-19 |
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I haven't invested in one. The rocks around here do a little more damage than a straightener can fix.
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From: scs
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Date: 23-Apr-19 |
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AAE. Spent $15 for it and it works great!
Steve
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