From: Slayer
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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Does anyone know how to use those circle sights that were on older bear bows?
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From: SB
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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What you want to hit goes in the middle of the circle...
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From: Daniel
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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I used that sight my self back in the compound days. Bear Alaskan with sight built into the riser. Your eye will self center. And the pin will not block out the target. It works great.
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From: Slayer
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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Ok. So do you cant the bow? Do you have to line up the string? I just didnt know if there was a proper way to use them.
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From: SB
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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You can't shoot sites with a canted bow! Your site pin would have to be 6" long!
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From: RC
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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Bullcrap..
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From: timex
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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think he said cow poop to you can't cant the bow perhaps not radically but a little well ok
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From: Flash
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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Highly advise acknowledging consistent string position when shooting with sights. Not a bad idea barebow either.
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From: Viper
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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Salyer -
What specifically you you need to know about the sight?
The bow is typically held vertically with any sight.
The Bear sight typically came with 3 apertures. The largest one was set the highest on the riser and used for the closest distance. The medium and small apertures were used for further distances. The exact distances were of your choosing.
For windage you could just twist the aperture in or out.
If you find you don't like it, I know someone who might ...
Viper out.
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From: Orion
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Date: 22-Feb-19 |
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Most folks use a vertical bow when using sights. You can make them work with a canted bow, but they're not as versatile that way. For example, you can use just one ring/pin with a vertically held bow sighted for 20 yards say. For 25-30 yards, you hold it a little high. For 10-15 yards, you hold it a little low. But you don't move the bow left or right.
If you use a single pin and cant the bow, it will be off (left/right) when you try to shoot any other distance other than the one its sighted in for. Of course, with multiple pins, you can adjust the sight aperture distance from the bow to accommodate the cant at various distances. But, unless you cant the same each time, they won't be totally accurate either.
Most folks don't have difficulty holding the bow perfectly vertical from shot to shot.
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From: dean
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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One of my early mentors used a 64" Bear with the inset sights. He liked the bow to be at about 1 o'clock or so and have the arrow under his eye, so he put the top sight on a longer screw. The first pheasant that I ever saw get shot out of the air was by him. He always said. "You need to shoot through the bow sight, never at it." Kind of like using the bow sight as a relatively closer to the target a secondary aiming system.
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From: Slayer
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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Thanks for all the replies. I just have some laying around. I have an old bear takedown b mag that came with the sights. I just wondered how they were used. I used sights when I shot compound. I guess I don’t see the point in using them for traditional archery. I shoot instinctive. I look at what I want to hit and shoot. Sometimes I hit it sometimes I don’t. I just thought it would be cool to hear from someone who actually used the sights back in the day. I was born in the 70’s and started messing with trad bows in the early 2000’s. Thanks again for all the help.
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From: Dan In MI
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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The Bear factory sight works as Hico described.
Technically you could use it canted, but sighting in would be very difficult as your elevation and windage would not be square to the bow's angle. It would also require the same cant every shot to be useful.
The sight Viper described is not the Bear sight, but another brand whose name escapes me now. It was designed as a hunting sight. The theory was you filled the loop with a deer's chest. The large lop for close and each successive smaller loop for more distance. A self elevating sight as the deer's chest would be smaller the further away it was.
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From: Clydebow
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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If you look at, say a bow with 5 pins, and the shooter sights them in at 10 yard intervals while canting the bow, they will all be different distances from the riser. The pins sighted in from a vertical held bow will (should) all be in a line the same distance from the riser.
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From: RC
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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Told ya it could be done:)
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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Dan, that was called Rangefinder. There were several companies that made similar.
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From: Orion
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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Slayer: The sights work the same way they do on a compound. Two main reasons folks tend to not use them on trad bows (mostly recurves) nowadays. There's no letoff with a trad bow, thus, the shooter is holding the entire draw weight at full draw while aiming. A lot of folks can't hold steady enough, long enough to use a sight effectively. Second, somehow the nouveau trad archers have made using a sight a negative thing.
After 40 years or so of shooting bare bow, which was after 15 years or so of shooting sights, i'm playing around with sights again. Rather fun.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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Don't let negative mindsets bother you when it comes to bow sights. Guys were using them on longbows in the 30's and likely before that. You should experience archery in it's many forms, even if it's on a traditional scale. Sights, stick-on rests, stabilizers..even bow slings were used in the 50's and 60's well before the neotrad generation was born. At 73 I'm still shooting recurves and longbows, but I have a couple "other" hand pulled bows in the house. I don't take anything for granted, and I sure don't care what another person thinks about it.
I'll add this, it's just as easy to shoot a bow held vertically as a canted one....I can shoot both ways but normally will shoot a vertical bow since that is how I was taught. More ways than one to skin a critter.
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From: dean
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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The sight shooter that i knew had a whip lash issue, he found that he could plant a better anchor with the bow canted and his head slightly forward. I developed a neck issue myself with shooting bows with sights vertical, I also like to feel all three fingers and my thumb at anchor. Jamming my neck for a solid three finger plant with a vertical string causes neck issues for me at the dorsal/cervical joint.
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From: David A.
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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Well, I invented several sight methods that allow one to shoot trad. hunting bows as accurately as full out tournament bows. And you most certainly can cant the bow with these methods no problem at all. Hope they make the bow more fun than ever...
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From: dean
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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this applied to me and my chiropractor at the time agreed.
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From: David A.
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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The problem for a bowhunter in shooting the bow vertically is clearance both top and bottom. A typical problem is seen with hunting blinds like the typical pop up variety. But not so with short bows like at around 54" and preferably 52". Now you have the problem of stability and finger pinch. However, it's easily solved.
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From: David A.
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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One specific solution for vertical short bows is to use a simple bow site like the old Merrill. I'm tempted to start manufacturing something like that but am resisting because frankly I don't like archery as a business and I'm doing more than enough in that arena. Would be nice if someone else did it. And we also need better rests, the current lot is pathetic. People didn't care enough to make them better, it's really as simple as that.
Back to the Bear circular sight, I would never hunt with a contraption like that on my bow. I think the Merrill was more pleasing.
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From: David A.
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Date: 23-Feb-19 |
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I bought a single Bear pin from eBay recently to give me ideas about sights...occasionally, they turn up there.
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