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Carbon Arrow

Messages posted to thread:
56 kodiak shooter 21-Feb-19
DanaC 21-Feb-19
TB 21-Feb-19
hawkeye in PA 21-Feb-19
Orion 21-Feb-19
Flash 21-Feb-19
gluetrap 21-Feb-19
Tlhbow 21-Feb-19
Buglmin 21-Feb-19
deerhunt51 21-Feb-19
RJH1 21-Feb-19
The Whittler 21-Feb-19
The Whittler 21-Feb-19
fdp 21-Feb-19
Desperado 21-Feb-19
Rough Run 21-Feb-19
fdp 21-Feb-19
RJH1 21-Feb-19
timex 22-Feb-19
RJH1 22-Feb-19
76aggie 22-Feb-19
Mission man 22-Feb-19
Bowmania 22-Feb-19
56 kodiak shooter 23-Feb-19
fdp 23-Feb-19
56 kodiak shooter 23-Feb-19
Tom McCool 23-Feb-19
Rick Barbee 23-Feb-19
DanaC 23-Feb-19
Muddyboots 23-Feb-19
From: 56 kodiak shooter
Date: 21-Feb-19




Do you guys use carbon arrows as is or do you use weight tubes, or brass inserts to add weight

From: DanaC
Date: 21-Feb-19




As is. If I wanted a heavier arrow I'd shoot aluminum.

From: TB Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 21-Feb-19




I have brass inserts in all my carbons, seems to work well for me.

From: hawkeye in PA
Date: 21-Feb-19




75 grain brass inserts and 145 grain field points.

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 21-Feb-19




I load up the front ends. Carbons are very light with standard inserts.

From: Flash
Date: 21-Feb-19

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As is but pretty heavy heads, 250grs upfront.

From: gluetrap
Date: 21-Feb-19




as is.

From: Tlhbow
Date: 21-Feb-19




Been using the brass inserts about a year now but keep the FOC below 16%

From: Buglmin
Date: 21-Feb-19




Started using Ethics Archery components, liking the static adjustable half out. I shoot as is with the weight in the insert and 125 grain heads.

From: deerhunt51
Date: 21-Feb-19




How many pounds are you drawing? Bet someone will have a suggestion.

From: RJH1
Date: 21-Feb-19




Depends, some i use standard inserts, some heavy inserts, and some heavy inserts and weight tubes. Depends on the bow and application

From: The Whittler
Date: 21-Feb-19




I have used the brass inserts but now as is.

From: The Whittler
Date: 21-Feb-19




I have used the brass inserts but now as is.

From: fdp
Date: 21-Feb-19




There are so many different weights of field points, point adapters and broadheads available these days I really don't know why anyone would use weighted inserts or weight tubes to be honest.

From: Desperado
Date: 21-Feb-19




400 or 500 spine carbon arrows depending on which bow I'm shooting but all have 75 grain inserts with 150 grain broad heads.

From: Rough Run
Date: 21-Feb-19




I use heavy brass inserts, or weights added to the back of the standard inserts. It aids in tuning the arrow to the bow, while keeping a consistent length of arrow from one bow to the next, or from one spine to the next. It also allows me to stick to 125 or 150 grain points and broadheads, meaning I don't have to have double (or more) the quantity of supplies to stay fully stocked and prepared. They allow me to keep my overall arrow weight in the 9-11 gpp range, across different shafts that have varying gpi weights. And, although I don't measure FOC, they allow me to keep a degree of FOC without having to become overly analytical for my desires, while building an arrow that tunes properly and penetrates well. I find more than enough good reasons to use heavy inserts or weights.

From: fdp
Date: 21-Feb-19




And Rough Run....I suppose that's why they still sell. However, everything that was just described can be done just as easily without the weighted inserts and tubes.

The trick is starting with a shaft that has a reasonable weight, and manageable spine to begin with. After that it's just all in know how to tune the bow.

From: RJH1
Date: 21-Feb-19




fdp, so say you need a total arrow weight of 720-750 grains, what combo do you use to get there?

From: timex
Date: 22-Feb-19




need or want. that's a heavy arrow

From: RJH1
Date: 22-Feb-19




"need or want. that's a heavy arrow"

That is what i use on my 75 pound bow. I guess i could go lighter, but really like to stay in that 9-10gpp area

From: 76aggie
Date: 22-Feb-19




For years I have shot carbon "as is" but plan on experimenting with brass inserts this year.

From: Mission man
Date: 22-Feb-19




I just put 175 grains upfront plain simple or 200 grains .

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Feb-19




Dana, aluminum is too straight - we need a challenge.

I'd suggest NOT using a weighted insert. If you need to go lighter they're a real PITA to get out compared to screwing out one point and screwing in a lighter point.

You can get screw in points to 300 grains and if you need more use a 160 grain glue on field point, a 125 grain adaptor, and a Woody Weight. That can talk you to 485 grains.

Bowmania

From: 56 kodiak shooter
Date: 23-Feb-19




I,m shooting Easton axis FMJ, they take a 9/32 field point, the heavest I could find is 145,s, any suggestions- thanks

From: fdp
Date: 23-Feb-19




What arrow length are you shooting and what arrow weight are you shooting for?

From: 56 kodiak shooter
Date: 23-Feb-19




I,m shooting 28in, 52lbs, 9gpi which would give a 468 grain arrow, broadheads are no problem

From: Tom McCool
Date: 23-Feb-19




I use GT 600s with no weight for the field points (200gr) and add GT brass weights to bring the lighter broadheads (125gr)to match the field point weight.

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 23-Feb-19




As is, but my carbons weigh 12.2 gpi.

Rick

From: DanaC
Date: 23-Feb-19




Good point Rick. Are we talking ultra-light 'target' carbons or heavy 'hunting' carbons? They come in a wide range of shaft weight for a given spine.

I'd suggest getting the Lancaster Archery catalog and checking out the specs for several shafts, see what comes closest to your needs.

From: Muddyboots
Date: 23-Feb-19




As is. Play with bare shaft tuning and find using 175 to 200 grain points usually helps, which is ok with me as it improves FOC.





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