Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


New terms

Messages posted to thread:
M60gunner 19-Feb-19
The Whittler 19-Feb-19
Zbone 19-Feb-19
longbowguy 19-Feb-19
Clydebow 19-Feb-19
SB 19-Feb-19
Tlhbow 19-Feb-19
MStyles 19-Feb-19
Shawn Rackley 20-Feb-19
Clydebow 20-Feb-19
Shawn Rackley 20-Feb-19
Nemophilist 20-Feb-19
RymanCat 20-Feb-19
JRW 20-Feb-19
Little Billy 20-Feb-19
Little Billy 20-Feb-19
Darkhawk 20-Feb-19
M60gunner 20-Feb-19
Clydebow 20-Feb-19
David McLendon 20-Feb-19
Little Billy 20-Feb-19
Sipsey River 20-Feb-19
GLF 20-Feb-19
2fletch 21-Feb-19
N.Y. Yankee 21-Feb-19
M60gunner 21-Feb-19
oldrecurveman 21-Feb-19
jk 21-Feb-19
Bender 21-Feb-19
3Ditional 21-Feb-19
Tlhbow 21-Feb-19
From: M60gunner
Date: 19-Feb-19




Looking at an add for a shoot in CA. In comments about shoot it says: High Draw&Skyjackers will be disqualified. Anyone know what these terms mean? I recall “sandbaggers” and “jarlicker” and a few not repeatable ones but these are new to me.

From: The Whittler
Date: 19-Feb-19




A guess, when your pulling too much weight some will point their bows at the sky and start to draw as they lower the bow.

From: Zbone
Date: 19-Feb-19




Only in Cali...8^)

From: longbowguy
Date: 19-Feb-19




Yes, a compound bow can cast an arrow a quarter of a mile. At my local range there are a playground, a picnic ground and a public swimming pool down range within that distance. I have pointed that out to several pulley pullers and have been well received so far.

If somebody should continue, I'm calling 911. - lbg

From: Clydebow
Date: 19-Feb-19




Exactly what Whittler said. The first club I shot 3Ds at back in the late 80s had that rule. You had to draw your bow in front of a club member before being allowed to shoot. At a shoot in St. Louis county, a guy who did that hit his release and shot another shooter thru the neck at a different section of the course.

From: SB
Date: 19-Feb-19




High draw ers are a safety hazard if they punch thier release as they are drawing. Who knows where that arrow will land! I've actually witnessed that more than once

From: Tlhbow
Date: 19-Feb-19




Sky pullin5. Here a example when I lived in town shooting a compound . In the back yard I could go through the neighbors yard and shoot back to min5, around 55yards . While drawing with finger on the trigger skyjacking I touched it off and it went through the fence two houses passed my house stuck in the ground in front of there kid's playhouse . I've never made that mistake again . Hat was in the mid 80's

From: MStyles
Date: 19-Feb-19




That’s a new one, first I’ve heard of it.

From: Shawn Rackley
Date: 20-Feb-19




Uh oh!!! I have a high draw. Just how I taught myself years ago. One of the few times that I have ever shot a compound I did exactly what u guys are talking about. A buddy and I was on my dad's farm in Bonne Terre Missouri shooting. He saw me doing some flight shooting in the pasture with my longbow. He asked me to shoot his compound bow (it was a very large pasture) so never having shot a compound I had no idea what to do ( I have shot a recurve or longbow since childhood) so he gave me the release thingy and told me what to do. Well my draw is 29" ,this guys was 26". I had no idea ( at the time) that those freaking compounds stop at the set draw length. So i drew that sucker back, and when it hit the wall I hit the trigger...... we never saw that arrow again. Pretty sure it's still in orbit. But in all seriousness , I can see where the "skyjacking" could be a big problem.

From: Clydebow
Date: 20-Feb-19




Shawn, The guy that got shot was shooting at Bush Wildlife. He did recover.

From: Shawn Rackley
Date: 20-Feb-19




Hey Dan, thanks for filling me in. Been meaning to get in touch with you. Do u ever make it to town hall anymore?

From: Nemophilist
Date: 20-Feb-19




Quite a few of the sportsmen's clubs that I shot at back in the late 1980s, 1990s, and early 2000s that had indoor archery ranges also have holes and arrows in the ceilings.

From: RymanCat
Date: 20-Feb-19




From Ca maybe some fake news.

From: JRW
Date: 20-Feb-19




Most major archery organizations (Worls Archery, USA Archery, NFAA etc.) have rules against sky drawing. It's a major safety issue.

From: Little Billy
Date: 20-Feb-19




I think sky jacker means gap shooter.

From: Little Billy
Date: 20-Feb-19




High draw means aiming down. The shaft.

From: Darkhawk
Date: 20-Feb-19




We call it Sky drawing as well. Strictly prohibited at My club and at SCA tournaments.

From: M60gunner
Date: 20-Feb-19




Asked some guys at range this AM that are C bow shooters. It is what has been said, aiming the bow up in the air so they can pull it back. I call it overbowed or weak in the arse. No it an’it a CA. thing, seen guys do this even before C bows. But speaking of accidents from this I saw a camper at the State Broadhead shoot one year with an arrow in its side. Funny, no one would own up to shooting it. If nothing else these “new” terms got some conversation going, thanks.

From: Clydebow
Date: 20-Feb-19




Shawn, Was there last week. Can't make Friday. Heading to Dixon for the Spring Fling.

From: David McLendon
Date: 20-Feb-19




Little Billy: "I think sky jacker means gap shooter." "High draw means aiming down. The shaft." I'm thinking probably not there Little Bill.

From: Little Billy
Date: 20-Feb-19




I ain't there.?? didn't say I was. You asked what they ment. I just speculated.??

From: Sipsey River
Date: 20-Feb-19




Friends of mine from Canada call an arrow that barley touches the kill line a "lid licker".

From: GLF
Date: 20-Feb-19




High drawing is tossing your bow arm up a bit, between eye and top of head high, starting your draw as you come down and reach full draw as you reach target level. Alot of recurve shooters do that.

Sky drawing is pointing your bow up 50 or 55 degrees or higher and draw pulling down on the string. Once you reach full draw you bring it down and aquire the target. mostly compound shooters use that one. They're both illegal and disqualifications at most nfaa and other large target club shoots.

Alot of nfaa clubs I've shot at put the limit on high drawing at bow hand at the top of the head.

From: 2fletch Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 21-Feb-19




Twenty or so years ago I was shooting with a group of 3 compound and 2 traditional shooters. One of the wheelers had a new release and it was all he could talk about. Twice he aimed for the sky and prematurely ejected the arrow at about 45 degrees. Both times were scarey because each time the arrows were sent flying back toward registration where the crowd accumulated. Thank God the area was heavily wooded with large oaks which apparently stopped the arrows on their path back to earth. I don't believe that I ever shot with that guy again.

From: N.Y. Yankee
Date: 21-Feb-19




I'm surprised Kalifornians don't have to microstamp and register their arrows with the state before they can shoot them. That will be the next thing, and the taxes that come with it. Do you think Lars Anderson would be considered a "high capacity" archer in Kalifornia? He might be banned all together. He could be the first mass shooting archer.

From: M60gunner
Date: 21-Feb-19




If a guy/gal, kid, whatever is so weak they have to draw their bow this way maybe they should take up underwater basketball. With all of today’s options there just isn’t any excuse.

From: oldrecurveman
Date: 21-Feb-19




I see this every year at the Bowhunter's Festival in Forksville & especially in the younger shooters. I think many parents just don't take the time to set their kids up with the proper bows. Then you have the adults that still seem to think they have to have their bows set at much higher poundage than they are capable of drawing without aiming at the sky while drawing. I always wonder how they draw their bow when a deer is in front of them at close range. As stated several times above I can see where this could be very dangerous on some courses when the shooter hits the release too quickly.

From: jk
Date: 21-Feb-19




Outright stupid to try to make this political.

From: Bender
Date: 21-Feb-19




Thank you jk.

It is a serious safety problem at Archery ranges, and I myself have seen the results of it. Yes, people getting shot.

And where a person lives does not change how dangerous it can be. All that changes are the words that may be used to define/describe the problem.

From: 3Ditional
Date: 21-Feb-19




Bender X2.....every word except actually seeing someone getting shot.

From: Tlhbow
Date: 21-Feb-19




I'm kinda surprised no one has mentioned keeping the Tigger finger behind the trigger until ready to dump. Absolutely no sky pulling on wandering archery courses . Not sure of the practices of target indoor shooting .





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