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Legacy vs Camo Hunter

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MnM 13-Dec-18
GF 13-Dec-18
Mpdh 13-Dec-18
GLF 13-Dec-18
DanaC 14-Dec-18
GF 14-Dec-18
George D. Stout 14-Dec-18
meatCKR 14-Dec-18
Krag 14-Dec-18
GF 14-Dec-18
Pdiddly 14-Dec-18
M60gunner 14-Dec-18
GLF 14-Dec-18
GLF 14-Dec-18
DanaC 14-Dec-18
M60gunner 14-Dec-18
grizz 14-Dec-18
George D. Stout 14-Dec-18
Pdiddly 14-Dec-18
M60gunner 14-Dec-18
Mpdh 14-Dec-18
DanaC 15-Dec-18
GF 15-Dec-18
GF 15-Dec-18
GLF 15-Dec-18
George D. Stout 15-Dec-18
fdp 15-Dec-18
DarrinG 15-Dec-18
fdp 15-Dec-18
GF 15-Dec-18
George D. Stout 15-Dec-18
From: MnM
Date: 13-Dec-18




So do 2016 Legacy spine differ from 2016 Camo Hunter?

From: GF
Date: 13-Dec-18




No.

From: Mpdh Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 13-Dec-18




The only difference is the color.

MP

From: GLF
Date: 13-Dec-18




Legacy's use glue on nocks also and camos dont.

From: DanaC
Date: 14-Dec-18




Identical alloy and straightness specs. The differences are color and nock swaging on the Legacy.

Also the Camo Hunter is available in a wider range of spines but both are available in 2020.

A search of Lancaster for '2016' and 'easton' -

http://www.lancasterarchery.com/salesperson/result/change/?answerId=37607&q=2016&salespersonaction=answerQuestion&searchHandle=QT0yMDE2fkI9MjAxNn5EPTMwfkk9UHJpY2V_Sz00fkw9MX5NPTJ_&p=1

From: GF
Date: 14-Dec-18




And if you like the Big Stiff...

3R has old stock Legacy arrows $60/dozen in 2117, 2216 and 2219...

Unless Gary bought them all! LOL (I only got a dozen ;) )

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Dec-18




Any aluminum arrow with the same designation is the same spine. It doesn't matter what it looks like. 2016 is 20/64th diameter with a .016 wall thickness.

From: meatCKR
Date: 14-Dec-18




Just setup a dozen 2016 legacies. Nice arrows! They shoot fantastic!

From: Krag
Date: 14-Dec-18




Easton Gamegetter 500s are also 2016.

From: GF
Date: 14-Dec-18




Yup and Tributes, Jazz and Blues all come in any diameter you want, as long as it’s ##16..

I think Lancaster still has Blues for about $2.75 a shaft...

From: Pdiddly
Date: 14-Dec-18




If you want to find 2016 Camo Hunter's with glue-on nocks check ebay for NOS shafts...usually quite a few there.

From: M60gunner
Date: 14-Dec-18




Yes a 2016 camo hunter is same wall thickness and diameter as those GG but have higher tensile strength. All aluminums will bend but how easily is the question. Also the cheaper shafts won’t take as much straightening before they are wet noodles. If you’re going to shoot aluminums you best learn how to straighten them. Also look out for you’re carbon shooting buddies pulling your aluminum arrows. They may not realize they could be putting a little bend in your arrows pulling from targets.

From: GLF
Date: 14-Dec-18




Lol, I only bought 3 dozen. They had more tho cause I almost bought more. But decided with what I very got 3 dozen oughta be a lifetime supply along with my wood ones.

From: GLF
Date: 14-Dec-18




Btw ,forgot to mention that's online only and theres free shipping right now.

From: DanaC
Date: 14-Dec-18




M60, wadr, the GG's have the same tensile strength and alloy composition as the Legacy and Camo Hunters. The only difference is the latter two are held to .002" straightness and the GG's are held to .003".

All this information is available in the Lancaster catalog, a real useful book and worth way more than the price ;-)

From: M60gunner
Date: 14-Dec-18




DanaC, interesting as I couldn’t find that on the Easton website. My catalog is 1200 miles away so I chatted with Lancaster and the rep couldn’t say. I will look this up when I get home in my catalog.

From: grizz
Date: 14-Dec-18




It's in the Lancaster catalog and 3Rivers catalog, also on their websites. Same tensile strength. Only difference is straightness tolerance and the GG's have a plastic nock adapter instead of aluminum.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Dec-18




The Easton website shows the Legacy and the GG as 7075-T9, 96,000 psi. Only difference is straightness guarantee and that is negligible.

From: Pdiddly
Date: 14-Dec-18




The Tribute shafts are available in 2016 and are made of 70/75 alloy while the Tribute, Legacy and Camo Hunter are 70/75 T-9.

Straightness tolerances are a bit looser at 005" but they have a swaged end for glue on nocks.

I think the majority of us would not notice the difference in straightness.

I just noticed that George just covered this...he must have a camera in my den!!

From: M60gunner
Date: 14-Dec-18




OK, you guys win. I found the info on the product description on 3R website. Wonder why it wasn’t in product description on Easton website? Someone mentioned size choices and I see the GG are very limited. Choice of spines is my reason for liking aluminums.

From: Mpdh Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Dec-18




The old green Gamegetters were the softer metal. The brown camo, and the newer black ones are 7075.

MP

From: DanaC
Date: 15-Dec-18




"Choice of spines is my reason for liking aluminums."

Agree. The Camo Hunters have the widest selection of spines, more than the Legacy, a lot more than Game Getters.

IF the GG is available in the spine of your choice, like 2016, they're a great deal.

Spine listings from Lancaster website -

Gamegetter - 300 (2317), 340 (2315), 400 (2117), 500 (2016)

Legacy - 1916, 2016, 2018, 2117, 2216, 2219

Camo Hunter - 1816, 1916, 2013, 2016, 2018, 2114, 2117, 2213, 2215, 2216, 2219, 2314, 2315, 2317, 2413

From: GF
Date: 15-Dec-18




They did the very limited sizes on the GG II specifically so that guys who are used to shooting carbons would know which one to pick. Easy Peezy.

And if you’re not a big fan of the nock tapers & glue-ons (Legacy/Tribute/Jazz/Blues), you can always trim off the taper and put in a Uni- bushing… Just sayin’...

Also, I have some carbons where a 2016 nock taper can be glued on over a split or plugged-up nock end. Just need 1/4”-3/8” of tubing ahead of the tapered section...

From: GF
Date: 15-Dec-18

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2016 Tribute on the AD; AO 2117 on the non-tapered. You could also use Uni- bushings and a short section of tubing to make your own nock collars.

From: GLF
Date: 15-Dec-18




What makes 3rivers sale on legacys so great is that's for fletched arrows. Last I checked they had rw shields on 2219 and rw parabolic on 2216. Lol forgot what is on the others.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-Dec-18




I also have some Easton Platinum Plus silver colored shafts, reminiscent of the old 24SRT-X shafts. They come in sizes from 1416 to 2315. Same tolerances, .002 straightness, 96,000 psi tensile strength....7075-T9.

From: fdp
Date: 15-Dec-18




I buy virtually all of my aluminum arrows from Lancaster. They have a much wider selection then anyone else.

From: DarrinG
Date: 15-Dec-18




Me too, plus they don't require you to buy a full dozen shafts either. I just bought a 1/2 dozen camo hunters from them last week.

From: fdp
Date: 15-Dec-18




Agreed Darrin, you can buy 'em in singles if you want to.

From: GF
Date: 15-Dec-18




Which is fantastic! Except when they’re only five bucks for a complete arrow and you really need a dozen.... or two... or three!

LOL

I got the 2117 shields :)

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-Dec-18




That $60.00 won't last long and it's only on a few heavier sizes.





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