From: Custom kodiak
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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When stringwalking or crawling does the middle finger still carry most of the load. When the fingers are no longer touching the arrow it would seem to me that more load should go more on the top finger. Your thoughts.
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From: Draven
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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In any way I shoot, split or 3 under, the closest finger to the arrow nock carries the most - this is the way I function. When I string walk the same applies: my index is carrying the most. But this is just me, some have others ideas.
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From: Draven
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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PS closest finger to the arrow nock under the arrow nock, just to explain the obvious.
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From: Bassman
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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Three under 1st and 2nd fingers about equal with a good hook.If I use to much pressure on my 3rd finger I pluck the string,and it causes problems with accuracy.Just me.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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Crawling is string walking. I think what Draven said is pretty accurate.
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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What Draven said.
Rick
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From: JRW
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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Don't change the distribution of the load among your fingers just because you slid your hand a bit down the string.
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From: dean
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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If in the heat of the moment, shooting at a deer, if one pulls square or too hard with the ring finger, how far does that mess up the shot with ilf bows? My 50" Browning was fussy that way.
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From: Draven
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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You need to know what would be the distance you shoot from ring finger position on the string. After that you have to remember if your ring finger was the "shot caller" or it was the last to leave the string - this gives different type of loads. Once you have these, you can create a formula using equations with 2 variables and the answer will be ... variable: maybe a bad shot, maybe a clean miss.
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From: Rick 3
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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Ok so I have a question related to this. I try to shoot my crawl with even finger pressure and my middle finger in the corner of my mouth as 1 of my anchors.
Do you guys specifically put more pressure on the top finger (pointer) or fingers and then Anchor with your pointer aswell?
Thanks!
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From: Therifleman
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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I have quite a bit of experience with string walking and using a fixed crawl. Your question is a good one! I use one piece longbows that require effort at my end as i cannot adjust tiller. I apply very little pressure on the string w my ring finger as i am trying to keep from loading the bottom limb anymore than is necessary. I use a very deep hook and would say my percentages of holding are as follows: Index finger 40, middle finger 50, ring finger 10. If you using an ilf you have a broader range of tuning options. My form and release needs to be very good as any errs on my part are magnified when string walking with the bows i shoot.
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From: Thor
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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I shoot with the main pressure on the "flipping the bird"finger.The fingers on each side just goes a long for the ride.That way I eliminate torquing the string.Works for me any way
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From: Draven
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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It's complicated and very personal. My anchor is in the back - string hand scapula. The pressure is on the index and I ignore where the middle finger is touching my face when I string walk. The entire "edge" of the hand (index side) on my cheekbone and jaw bone is the arrow reference for me. It's like having a line as repeatable arrow reference not just a spot. There are more dedicated stringwalkers than me here who can help you, but I use the same principle for any type of aiming method or way of shooting (split or 3 under).
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From: Draven
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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PS Luckily I don't stringwalk at 5 yards otherwise my arrow nock will be very "into my eye" so to speak.
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From: Rick 3
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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When I string walk I use my middle finger in the corner of my mouth as 1 anchor point and the other is my thumb hooked under the corner of my jaw bone. If I try to use only 1 anchor I tend to snap shoot.
Under 10 yards I do not string walk either.
But I do tend to put alot of pressure on my ring finger and have a tendency to shoot perfectly high. That was why I asked about finger pressure. Can someone point me to a video or something on how to retrain yourself to use mostly the poubter and middle fingers?
Thanks!
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From: Draven
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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John Demmer has a video - I can't find it now - showing his stringwalking technique. He grabs the string with 3 under at the crawl desired but he is pushing with the thumb against the string nock below the arrow before going in set position. This little thing will enhance/load the index and will align the fingers on the string. Try it, I know it works.
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From: Draven
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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Check this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57g--R2jEWs
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From: Beendare
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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I use Ben Rodgers technique of angling my fingers down at a 45 deg angle or so. This puts more weight on the top fingers and lets me get off the string smoother
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From: JRW
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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Dean,
"If in the heat of the moment, shooting at a deer, if one pulls square or too hard with the ring finger, how far does that mess up the shot with ilf bows?"
That really depends on the quality of your tune. Inconsistencies in form and execution will have a greater impact with a marginal tune that with a good one.
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From: Therifleman
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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James, i sent you a pm.
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From: David McLendon
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Date: 29-Nov-18 |
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I start my 3under draw with 3 fingers pulling, by the time I get to my anchor and ready for release the only finger holding weight or even on the string is my index finger whether its against the arrow nock, on a crawl, or stringwalking. It works for me up to 67#.
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From: stykman
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Date: 30-Nov-18 |
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I don't even consider or think about finger pressure. For me, it's one less thing to interfere with the shot, especially when drawing down on a deer.
Curious to know how many of you here who do consider finger pressure, think about it when the time comes to release on that deer. When the time comes for me, it's time to let muscle memory and practice take over and only concentrate on "THE SPOT".
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From: camodave
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Date: 30-Nov-18 |
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Middle finger should always carry 90% of the load.
DDave
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From: David McLendon
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Date: 30-Nov-18 |
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[Curious to know how many of you here who do consider finger pressure, think about it when the time comes to release on that deer. When the time comes for me, it's time to let muscle memory and practice take over and only concentrate on "THE SPOT".]
I put my arrow tip on "THE SPOT" that I want to hit, where I grip the string has been predetermined and back tension takes care of the release. As far as finger pressure, how I do it is what I do every time so I don't really think about it, index 100% at release.
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From: Demmer
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Date: 01-Dec-18 |
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Pointer, middle, ring 40,50,10 35,50,15
I'm usually around there somewhere.
Draven, that video is a decent video. It's main focus is to show people how to stringwalk and make sure there is no slippage of the crawl when transferring from crawl to draw. I have seen too many times people making mistakes on not having any tension and they slip a little on the crawl and pay no attention. Then they end up missing their spot and don't know why.
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From: Draven
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Date: 01-Dec-18 |
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Demmer I know the reason of that and "locking" the index on the string in same time it might help someone to adjust the finger pressure as he wishes based on the subtle position of fingers on string. I am more 50-40-10
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From: jk
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Date: 02-Dec-18 |
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Demmer/Lancaster...thanks for that GREAT stringwalk/crawl video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57g--R2jEWs
I don't stringwalk but I do/did fixed crawl, guesstimating for my 3D short shots (when nobody's looking because it's not kosher at every event).
Problem is, 3D shots around here are only occasionally more than 30 yards, as often uphill as level or downhill, so a flat-shooting bow (e.g. my 55# Sentman longbow) makes trajectory less important than dealing with uphill/downhill and size of ethabeast.
If I fiddle with crawl that effort to add precision to trajectory detracts from my analysis of those more important issues. I think. Currently anyway :-)
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From: jk
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Date: 02-Dec-18 |
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