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Minimum diameter Amsteel rope??

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The Lost Mohican 14-Oct-18
fdp 14-Oct-18
The Lost Mohican 14-Oct-18
Bentstick54 14-Oct-18
The Lost Mohican 14-Oct-18
Zbone 14-Oct-18
chenryiv 15-Oct-18
chenryiv 15-Oct-18
Gvdocholiday 15-Oct-18
The Lost Mohican 15-Oct-18
WV Mountaineer 15-Oct-18
longshot 15-Oct-18
longshot 15-Oct-18
The Lost Mohican 15-Oct-18
coxral 15-Oct-18
DT1963 15-Oct-18
From: The Lost Mohican
Date: 14-Oct-18




I am replacing the chains on all my LocOn tree stands with Amsteel rope. I have been using the Whoopee sling knot system. The Amsteel I have been using is overkill and enough to strength to operate a Crane. Anyone know the best diameter to use? When LocOn was making their stands they calle it the "Speed Hitch" which is really a Whoopee sling!. And "Whoopee" the temperatures and humidity have finally dropped! Thanks TLM

From: fdp
Date: 14-Oct-18




I'd ask the folks that material what they suggest for the application and knot you are using.

From: The Lost Mohican
Date: 14-Oct-18




Thanks FDP. Amsteel is tough stuff. Must be made with same material as Braid and FF bowstrings! TLM

From: Bentstick54
Date: 14-Oct-18




What's a whoopee knot? Do you have a picture?

From: The Lost Mohican
Date: 14-Oct-18




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtJGTgpv4dc

Here it is. works better than chain and quieter. I take my stands down at seasons end, so the critters don't chew on the rope. TLM

From: Zbone
Date: 14-Oct-18




The Lost Mohican - Thanks for sharing...

From: chenryiv
Date: 15-Oct-18




I use 5/16 Amsteel for my “speed hitch”.

From: chenryiv
Date: 15-Oct-18




I use 5/16 Amsteel for my “speed hitch”.

From: Gvdocholiday Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 15-Oct-18




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBDa_LBPwjA&feature=youtu.be

From: The Lost Mohican
Date: 15-Oct-18




Crispin, Thanks!

From: WV Mountaineer
Date: 15-Oct-18




5/16 here. It’s way over. I experimented with 7/32 and it was plenty strong. But, Amstel is so abrasion resident, I was afraid it’d end up cutting through the eye bolts or shearing off the bolts altogether. It’ll cut through a tree really quick to in the 7/32 size.

From: longshot
Date: 15-Oct-18




Amsteel blue is a 12 strand single braids made by Sampson from Dyneema fibers, I believe SK65. I use 1/8" for my hammock suspensions. 1/8" has a minimum break strength of 2300lb.

From: longshot
Date: 15-Oct-18




By way of comparison 1/8" galvanized 7x19 steel cable has a minimum break strength of 2000lb. Amsteel is awesome stuff.

From: The Lost Mohican
Date: 15-Oct-18




Thanks everyone!!

From: coxral
Date: 15-Oct-18




Just remember rope fibers break down faster than chain. Weather, knots, and rubbing on things such as bark weaken and deteriorate it quicker. I have went through a little rope in my life as a Tree Trimmer/Climber. With that said, it'll be fine, just remember to clean and dry it every now and then. You can coil it and throw it in the wash machine and hang dry. Good luck, Good hunt'n, and God Bless ya!

From: DT1963
Date: 15-Oct-18




I use 1/4 inch on everything - I do replace it on my sticks every year - saddles and stands every 2-3 years just depends on wear. Yes it frays but it still is strong even when completed frayed up as the core fibers are still unfrayed.





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