From: oldnewby
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Date: 20-Sep-18 |
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The Clean Shot Lock-N- Load inserts for carbon arrows look really interesting. I have never seen anything like them. Has anyone tried them? You insert them without glue. Apparently there is a set screw that locks them into the shaft. You can then remove them or rotate the insert to change the orientation of your broadheads. What an idea!
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From: GF
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Date: 20-Sep-18 |
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Makes sense - always good when somebody steps outside o’ the proverbial box...
Just so it’s not too easy to over/under-tighten. I can see myself cracking shafts...
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 20-Sep-18 |
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I remember such a set up about three or more decades ago where the bushing pressed in and the head itself tightened it. Nothing is really new...just revisited. Additional working parts, to me, don't make much sense when hot melt is so simple and works well. Of course, it will be knew to most archers today who weren't around back then. Options are good.
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From: oldnewby
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Date: 20-Sep-18 |
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George: these types of glue-less systems look as though they could be better and more convenient than using hot melt on inserts, especially with the risk of damaging carbon shafts and ruining heat treatment on broadheads when you melt the glue again to remove the broadheads. Why do you think these glue-less insert systems did not become standard in the industry?
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From: grizz
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Date: 20-Sep-18 |
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George, it's just too easy.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 20-Sep-18 |
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oldnewby, Likely it's all about timing as many things are. Kinda like the companies going to metal risers back about the same time compounds were starting to take over. In just a few years, recurves were not wanted and the technology went to developing the compound. Timing. Time will tell if any new item is accepted or not, and a lot of that depends on the cost as well. I don't use carbon so I didn't think about that aspect.
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From: Clydebow
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Date: 20-Sep-18 |
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You don't apply heat directly to the shaft. Use a field point(not a broadhead) to transfer heat to the insert to install, remove, or adjust it.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 20-Sep-18 |
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I like “toys” so I might try a pack even know I usually don’t change inserts. Maybe it’s a good idea so you can recycle them when an arrow gets busted?
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From: oldnewby
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Date: 20-Sep-18 |
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A more easily removable insert would be useful if you want to replave your insert with a heavier or lighter insert in those same shafts, or if you change broadheads and wany to rotate the insert to get your chosen broadhead orientation.
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From: fdp
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Date: 20-Sep-18 |
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I don't guess I get it to be honest. I don't and wouldn't on a bet use weighted inserts, so that doesn't apply to me. If I wanted to be able to remove the inserts from carbons, I would simply wrap them with Teflon tape before I stuck them in the shaft. I've never had one come out doing that as I recall.
There must be some market if they are still being made. Looks like the same company makes a broadhead with a laser in the point as well.
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From: Bowmania
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Date: 20-Sep-18 |
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I can't figure out why everyone is not using them. You can add 30 to 40 bucks to the cost of a doz. arrows.
Sometimes gifts come in small packages.
Bowmania
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From: grizz
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Date: 21-Sep-18 |
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Now that's funny
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From: Tom McCool
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Date: 21-Sep-18 |
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My guess is I will stay with hot melt glue but will sure give them a try when I get the chance. Thanks for the new information.
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From: arrowchucker
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Date: 21-Sep-18 |
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If you use “blue” hotmelt you just dunk the shaft in boiling water for about 5 seconds and they come right out. The heat is WAY below what could damage a carbon shaft or Broadhead. And it might wash the blood off too! I’ve went to blue for all arrows, Carbon, alum and wood and will never go back. Initial prep is the most important part of any glue on any surface. I use the copper brushes from my gun cleaning kit and chuck them up in my cordless drill to score and clean the inside of EVERY shaft. Then the cotton ones, dipped in alcohol. .No more pulled out inserts when you hit something you didn’t want. Tree, wood, whatever. Especially with broadheads. Don’t need a “ mechanical insert too”!!!! Arrowchucker out
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From: Clydebow
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Date: 21-Sep-18 |
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The bottom line is thank you for the info, interested or not.
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From: The Whittler
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Date: 21-Sep-18 |
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Buy a couple for bare shaft tuning.
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