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why lack of glue on 3 blades?

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LongTrad 17-Sep-18
Glunt@work 17-Sep-18
Glunt@work 17-Sep-18
DanaC 18-Sep-18
3R Shooter 18-Sep-18
Bowguy 18-Sep-18
Orion 18-Sep-18
George D. Stout 18-Sep-18
raghorn 18-Sep-18
N. Y. Yankee 18-Sep-18
Bowguy 18-Sep-18
Clydebow 18-Sep-18
Birdy 18-Sep-18
Nemophilist 18-Sep-18
3R Shooter 18-Sep-18
George D. Stout 18-Sep-18
George D. Stout 18-Sep-18
George D. Stout 18-Sep-18
LongTrad 18-Sep-18
DanaC 18-Sep-18
Rick Barbee 18-Sep-18
Linecutter 19-Sep-18
George D. Stout 19-Sep-18
N. Y. Yankee 19-Sep-18
Dan In MI 19-Sep-18
Rick Barbee 19-Sep-18
George D. Stout 19-Sep-18
Twan 19-Sep-18
fdp 19-Sep-18
DanaC 20-Sep-18
Twan 20-Sep-18
grizz 20-Sep-18
George D. Stout 20-Sep-18
fdp 20-Sep-18
From: LongTrad
Date: 17-Sep-18




I have been looking around for some glue on 3 blades and it seems the only ones in production are grizzly instincts and vpa

are there some I am missing?

it looks like they no longer make woodsman and snuffer? why!??

From: Glunt@work
Date: 17-Sep-18




3 Rivers shows the Woodsman glue on available like normal.

From: Glunt@work
Date: 17-Sep-18




Also the Bodkin and Del-Ma

From: DanaC
Date: 18-Sep-18




https://www.3riversarchery.com/buy/arrows/broadheads/3-blade-broadheads

It's the Woodsman 'Elite' now.

From: 3R Shooter Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 18-Sep-18
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We have charts in our Master catalog showing broadheads by the blade count, then split glue-on and screw-in, then by grain weight groups. For 3-blade glue-on we have:

Woodsman original series, Woodsman elite series, Bod=Kin, Del-ma Penetrator, and Grizzly Instinct.

The Woodsman Original series are the first product in the link to all of our 3-blades, but here it is also: https://www.3riversarchery.com/woodsman-original-series-3-blade-glue-on-broadheads.html

From: Bowguy Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 18-Sep-18




Zwicky also. The CO that made Snuffer just stopped. If you wanted to put your kids in college would you supply the few guys at this?? We’re lucky we still have so many choices imo

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Sep-18




As Jonathan points out, lots of three-blades available. Not really hard to find them.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Sep-18




We have the greatest research engine known to man at our fingertips, and we can't find stuff. A Google search of "glue-on three blade broadheads" brings up what's available and who sells them.

From: raghorn
Date: 18-Sep-18




Zwickey 3 blade????????

From: N. Y. Yankee
Date: 18-Sep-18




So many are using carbon arrows now and they mostly all use screw in adapters. Most folks now just want stuff to be "easy".

From: Bowguy Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 18-Sep-18




Ugh I missed the 3 blade thing. Sorry guys

From: Clydebow
Date: 18-Sep-18




What George said.

From: Birdy
Date: 18-Sep-18




they starting making the woodsman again? Good to know. It does seem strange there are 1000 2 blades and only 3 people making 3 blades though. I use vpa

From: Nemophilist
Date: 18-Sep-18




Agree with N.Y. Yankee

From: 3R Shooter Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 18-Sep-18
3R Shooter is a Stickbow.com Sponsor - Website




Birdy, the Woodsman has never been out of production. There have been years they have been hard to get, but the past couple years they have been in a steady supply.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Sep-18




Just an FYI, the screw in heads came on the market in the late 60's, so it's not exactly a new thing; unless, of course, you think 50 years is new. Easy and convenient, and I have no problem with that since I use those screw ins most of the time on my aluminum and fiberglass arrows. People like what they like, that's all.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Sep-18




Just an FYI, the screw in heads came on the market in the late 60's, so it's not exactly a new thing; unless, of course, you think 50 years is new. Easy and convenient, and I have no problem with that since I use those screw ins most of the time on my aluminum and fiberglass arrows. People like what they like, that's all.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Sep-18




Musta double clutched.

From: LongTrad
Date: 18-Sep-18




thanks for the responses guys, I also figured they had stopped making woodsman 3blades, I was trying to buy some a while back and it seemed like they were rare as hens teeth.

bodkins are ok for that they are and I shoot them but I won't use them for big game when there are better options.

I have no problems with screw in, in fact I am going to be turning the woodsman and instincts I just ordered into screw ins with adapters. The people is all the 1 piece screw ins are made for compound bows and are too light and short.

From: DanaC
Date: 18-Sep-18




Yeah, most new heads are 100 grains, 125 is 'heavy' ;-)

Put a 125 grain glue-on on a 50 grain adapter and now you're out of 'tack hammer' territory.

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 18-Sep-18




If you look closely at some of the 3 blade screw in heads, you will notice they are just glue ons with a screw in adapter installed, and sold that way.

On those, just remove the adapter, and voila glue on. 8^)

Rick

From: Linecutter
Date: 19-Sep-18




Rick is right about removing the adapter. Also remember that lightens the over all weight of the broadhead if you do it. If you bought them as 125gr broadhead, you remove the adapter, that broadhead more than likely gonna weigh 100grs as a glue on. I seen it go the other way more times than I can count. Someone buys 125gr Eskimo's, glues in the screw in adapters, and still thinks they have 125gr points. They will be 150grs with the short adapters or 170grs with the long adapters. Then they can't figure out why their arrows fly the way they do when shooting them. "Well they were tuned before and flew great with the 125gr field points." DANNY

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Sep-18




Well you would think folks would be able to figure that out, but then I suppose not. ;(

From: N. Y. Yankee
Date: 19-Sep-18




So many have bee doing the "screw in point on a carbon arrow" thing that they never got introduced to glue-on points or the adapters. Many just simply don't know any other kind of point.

From: Dan In MI
Date: 19-Sep-18




George, you know better......

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 19-Sep-18




Yeah, I forgot to mention you need to get heads that weigh what you want with the adapter removed.

Most manufacturers, and retailers can tell you what the adapters weigh. Then all you have to do is the math to know what the broadhead is going to weigh with out it.

I've done it a bunch of times, have used the same heads as both screw in or glue on, and it has work perfectly every time.

Also, a grain scale is your friend, and with a little ingenuity, and very little effort you can make them weigh what you want them to. 8^)

Rick

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Sep-18




Rick, we are living in a right brain world my friend. Analytical thinking is what we had to do when we got into it. Now you just find a forum, or google for instant answers...no need for the left side to be over exercised.

From: Twan
Date: 19-Sep-18




most the compound screw in 3 blades I have seen are all 1 piece, even if they had adapters, they are not a good shape for tradition equipment.

If you are talking about the glue in trad heads with the inserts already installed then that's a different story. Although I always wondered who would buy though since they are more expensive, I would rather just choose my own insert and buy the glue ons, personally.

I do with there were more people making tradition 3 blade heads though, some of these listed are just rebranded and made by vpa.

From: fdp
Date: 19-Sep-18




How many different 3 blade heads do we need? Nothing at all wrong with any of the heads mentioned. I've literally shot Delma MA-3's through car doors. And Bodkins have killed everything on this continent.

From: DanaC
Date: 20-Sep-18




Umm, that car door, junk yard or 'oops!' ? ;-)

From: Twan
Date: 20-Sep-18




not everyone likes shooting the oldest softest broad heads they can find.

From: grizz
Date: 20-Sep-18




Don't understand why anyone thinks modular heads aren't good for stick bows. Near 50 years ago guys like me that shot coc heads were out numbered by the ones shooting modular. And the guy that showed up at the range with bandaids on all his fingers, well, you knew he had just put his Savoras together.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 20-Sep-18




And no one said everyone should do that.

From: fdp
Date: 20-Sep-18




DanaC, when I was growing up we had an old 72 Duster setting out in the back pasture. That was my broadhead penetration test medium. I would take all brands of broadheads and shoot them in to the door, or the back fender to see which one's would hold up and which one's wouldn't.





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