Thought you may enjoy this.

Classic

Looks like Mid Nox and Plastifletch on Vic's arrows.

Interesting feather. I have about 500 if you want to try some George. I don't think they would go over big with most of this crew. Most have probably never seen the hard plastic fletch I would guess.

That is nothing short of amazing! WOW!

Those new-fangled vanes. Max Hamilton won the 1952 NAA Nationals while shooting an elevated rest and his 'hard' Plastifletch. He sold his company to New Archery Products (NAP) around 1970.

Jon Stewart, I shot some of those back in the late 60's on the field courses one summer. I did okay but the dang things would break or just pop off the arrow on a hard hit. Not that I hit anything like that. ;) Later on I used Thin-O-Fletch and I seriously doubt many here have any idea what those were.

super picture sir I always gessed he shot the long white knight bow that I had saw pictures of very nice dr

Nice one George! Lance

Well Yeah but he used a Berger Button. :^) Cheers. >>>----> Ken

I still use Berger Buttons and elevated rests on my hunting bows.

I still have the button he personally put on my bow at Tella wooket in 1973

Interesting!

I still use the old Berger buttons, and flipper rests on bows i have that will accept them.You can really fine tune a bow with that combo.Never new why they were called Berger buttons.I know now,thanks George for the thread.

Great photo George, thanks for posting it. I've got a 1967 Alaskan with a Berger button that I've always wondered about. I'm having a hard time posting photos, well in fact I can't post them at all. I never had a problem before but I suppose their too many pixels or some such nonsene. I tried all morning to figure out a way to fix them but I give up. I've got an old computer with and even older operator and you know what they say about old dogs and new tricks :-)

Cool pic, Mr. Stout. 1971 is a great vintage :)

Mr. Stout -

The problem is that Vic could have done that with just about any bow. It was pure marketing then, and it's still marketing now - only thing that changes are the names.

And ... I still have that identical rig, and it's really super sweet, but so are a number of other bows from that era. If you recall, the first 300 shot (Cobo Hall?) was done with a Golden Eagle. Still, one of the worst bows I won.

What I'm trying to say, it that while I can appreciate the classic ad, it's still just an ad.

Viper out.

Viper, I'm quite aware of the first 300 by Bob Bittner, I also remember the other two that same year...all Golden Eagle bows designed by Phil Grable and Ernie Root. Just FYI.

Yes, Vic may have been able to do that with just about any bow, but he did it with the Bear Custom takedown. Which also shows some folks that he not only shot a perfect round, but two of them back to back...then a 299 out of 300 on the third. Maybe he could have done that too with a Golden Eagle, or Hoyt Pro Medalist, or Wing Presentation II. But he didn't.

Mr Stout -

Yes, but that really meant more for Bear's propaganda than for Vic or any one looking for a bow.

Even when you look at many subsequent 300's where shot with that or other bows, the information is still misleading, because it's rarely (like never) the equipment that shoots the score.

People then, and more so today, have equipment envy and want what the "pros" have. Companies take good advantage of that. It benefits the sellers more than the consumer.

At this point in my shooting career, if I ever needed a new piece of equipment, all I want are the specs and not that "Brady" is using it.

Viper out.

Photo of the Berger button on the Alaskan

Berger button and rest on the 67 Alaskan

Gotcha Tony, thanks.

cool stuff

Wow, you can bet Vic had great arrow flight. I wonder what he had to say about tuning and if he paper shot his arrows back then.

Nice stuff George

George,just traded for a HC 300 that has the factory sight bar and flipper rest,where could on find the complete sight. Thanks, Steve

Great post and advertisement, George. Good looking rig.

Vic's rig had a Bear-Jeffrey Omni Bow Sight. Most of the good shooters used the extender bars rather than the built-in Premier sight. You can find them sometimes on Ebay, you just have to keep checking there. Once the side mount sights became available, the front mounted sights all but went away. Most of those bows back then ended up with Chek-It sights and extensions, then later Accra.

Thanks for sharing. Are there any cool adds from 1980 ? That's the year I was born.

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In the 60's and 70's paper and/or bare shaft tuning wasn't as popular as it is today. Vic may have done some, but it's unlikely. He did however come up with a method of walk-back plunger (Berger button) tuning that still bears his name. Google: walk back tuning, Berger method.

Viper out.

Speaking of such things reminds me of a couple of fun Sherwood Schoch stories. Sherwood told me that he was the other guy on the target with Bob Bittner in Vegas that night. He also said that he and some other elite target archers were always getting after Jugger Gervais about how poor his arrow flight was! But Gervais had the physical ability to pull it off, despite the wobbling arrows.

The other fun tidbit was hearing that Sherwood had a machinist rig him a plunger (using a spring from some cabinet door hardware) just before a big shoot, and was doing very well with it. During the shoot he showed it to Vic Berger...who then went home and designed the Berger Button.

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