From: fdp
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Date: 23-Jun-18 |
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1820's.
Most people are going to steer toward something else, but there isn't anything better, Small diamter, easily avaialble, and nice thick walls.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 23-Jun-18 |
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Only aluminum for that weight and arrow length I have used is 2114. Some will say 2018 or 2016 both should work depending on the point weight and your form.
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 23-Jun-18 |
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I try not to go under .016 wall. They get too fragile..020 is a tough arrow. No they don't seem near as finicky as carbons. 1/4" off a carbon can make it too stiff. As they get shorter they get stiff in a hurry. Also aluminium comes in so many different sizes it is easier to get the correct size and not have to load up with point weight to get them flying. If you are cutting the arrows to 29" your draw length must be 28 or less right? that makes a difference in the spine also. Good luck. >>>----> Ken
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 23-Jun-18 |
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I should have said only size for that style bow I ever used.
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From: Caboo
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Date: 23-Jun-18 |
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I would start with bare shafting a 30" 2018 and cut off a half inch at a time if it's to weak.
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From: Wild Bill
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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IMHO, you will find your best flight with 2016 shafts.
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From: H Rhodes
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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I agree with Wild Bill and the 2016s are easy to find from a long list of vendors.
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From: Pa Steve
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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1820 or 2016 like stated.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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2016 or 2114...both are perfect for 55#.
I also use 1820's but you need to build them to get what you want...the inserts for screw-in points are the hardest thing to find and you need them...I think 3-Rivers carries them. I found some on ebay.
Shop around for the shafts for a good price...I used the orange ones and then used orange and blue fletch.
I also recommend using Deep-Six nocks...they are shorter and tougher than the standard nock.
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From: MCS
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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Yep 2016. My friend Carl calls them the universal arrow. He shoots them from a couple different poundages.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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Thumper, 1820 youth shafts are still 1820 and they are XX75 material. Just because they say youth, don't let that dissuade you. They are great arrows/shafts.
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From: fdp
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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Thumper....I've been using them since they became available again. I buy 1/2 dozen a month or so every month from Academy here where I live. You can buy inserts for them from 3 Rivers as well as other places.
The spine weight of the shaft is actually 53lbs. and the physical weight is such that you don't need additional weight. The small diameter gives you the ability to use them over a wide range of spines by tweaking the sight window.
They aren't "trendy" or one of the "traditional" spines is why no one mentions them. I buy most all of mine in Autumn Orange.
Absolutely no reason to mess with having to leave arrows long, or add weight you dot want to.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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""They aren't "trendy" or one of the "traditional" spines is why no one mentions them. I buy most all of mine in Autumn Orange.""
Yep....what he said. )
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From: John Ryan
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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I’ve shot aluminum’s since the 60’s. Started out with the 24srtx. They are the easiest arrow to tune out there in my opinion. Not anywhere near as finicky as wood or carbon. I really like them.
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From: fdp
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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Let's see if this works, this is a list of Aluminum arro sizes and how they actually spine using a 2lb. weight iver a 26" span.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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Here's what the finished arrows look like. I like blue fletch because it stands out when I stump shoot.
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From: fdp
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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Nope, can't get to load. I can send it to you via email though if you want it. And it is dead on the money,
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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I use this chart.
Anthony Camera ( aka Viper on this site) has a chart in Shooting the Stickbow that is excellent.
Here is the link.
http://www.shootingthestickbow.com/ArrowGuide.html
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From: Bowmania
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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Just a comment on tuning. Arrows are arrows and they all tune the same (OK, I'll do it AGAIN www.acsbows.com/bowtuning.html click on 'download printable version" - broadhead tuning at the end is the best). The reason you 'think' carbons are harder to tune is because we basically have 3 sizes for weights from 35 to 65 - .600, .500, and .400. (Well, maybe there's no 'thinking' about it, the limited choices call for different options than woood and aluminum).
Wood arrows would have 30 different spines to choose from and aluminum probably a dozen for those bow weights.
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From: Bowmania
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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Funny I wasn't done - hit the wrong button.
I was going to add that the limited choices changes things and I think for the better. I have a 50 pound at 29 inch bow. With carbons I have .620's tuned for whitetails and .390's for bigger game. All by adjusting point weight and length.
And yes I believe most shoot too stiff. Those .620's have 285 grains up front. Unlike Byron I do things to the bow to make them work. The .390's have 360 up front.
Bowmania
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From: fdp
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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That's a very good chart Pdiddly. The one I have lists all the aluminum spines all the way to over 100lbs.. I'll play with it and see if I can get a format that will upload.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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Yes fdp...most of the charts are pdf...can you please email me yours? I'll pm you my email.
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From: LBshooter
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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I found some 2216 lites in my mess of arrows and shot them through my 50 lb longbow and they fly great. 150 gr head and couldn't be a better match, I'll be using these come hunting season for sure.
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From: boatbuilder
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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My Northern Mist longbows in that range love a 30" 2016 with 145 gr points or a 2114 with 145 -175 gr tips (doesnt seem to matter which weight expect broadheads fly better at 175 grs).
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From: Babbling Bob
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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No expert like some here, but used 2016's with 4-inch fletch on 29-inch shafts for a 55lb bow I had long ago, so that sounds right. Those aluminums sure weren't fussy, worked fine, and were good hunting arrows too. I shoot light bows now with carbons, and I take some of the fussiness out of the equation in tuning as much as I can by keeping a bunch of different point weights around for matching to my similar draw weight bows.
However, I think if I used aluminum now, I wouldn't need so many point weights to match up to my similar bows. Bet all those points for my carbons probably cost about as much as a separate set of aluminum shafts.
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From: boatbuilder
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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should have said broadheads fly perfect at 175 grs.
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From: Andy Man
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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2016
the cheap Jazz or tributes
try point weights and lengths easier to get components for than the 1820
I shoot 2016 at 27"bop with 175 grain points out of my NM 50#@ 26'" you should be in that range with 145 grain heads
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From: fdp
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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Peter the email is on it's way.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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Thx...got it...good chart.
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From: Biathlonman
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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Me thinks 1820 will be to weak, 2016 will be close, might need 2018/2117.
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From: fdp
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Date: 24-Jun-18 |
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The bow is 1/8 before center according to the OP. That is going to lower the spine requirement to 45'ish pounds. The 2016's fall in the 55-59lb. spine group. 2018's fall in the 65-69lb. spine group. 1820's fall in the 50-54lb. spine group. However, due to the small diameter they are going to move closer to center, thereby overcoming a certain amount of the lack of centershot.
But understand, I'm not trying to sway any opinions. Just giving advice based on doing this stuff for lots and lots of years, Doing lots and lots of testing, and learning from lots and lots of people.
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From: BigHorn
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Date: 25-Jun-18 |
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lancaster sells shafts by the each. so you can order a couple of each size you want to try. im using 31” 2114s on several bows in the 50-55 lb range with 145 gr up front with good results i draw a little over 28” usually for what its worth
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 25-Jun-18 |
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In X7 try 2115's. In XX75 try 2018, 2114 or 2213's. According to the Easton catalog.
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