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Most knowledgable whitetail hunter

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Babysaph 17-Jun-18
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From: Babysaph
Date: 17-Jun-18




Who do you guys think is the most knowledgable whitetail hunter

From: Frisky
Date: 17-Jun-18




That's easy. Overall, I'm the most knowledgable whitetail hunter. The big knowledge boys plant food plots on leases and then climb trees over the plots, put up cameras to capture the footage and also have salt and/or mineral blocks out. They use an army of trail cams too. They don't know squat about whitetail hunting. I don't use any if that garbage. No scents, no scent blockers, no tree stands, no nothin'. I just go out in the fields and/or woods with my bow, arrows and a bag with dressing supplies, armed with nothin but knowledge of my quarry, and I get a deer. That makes me the most knowledgeable and you'd all be wise to listen to everything I have to say about the situation.

Joe

From: fdp
Date: 17-Jun-18




Either Robert Fellar from Lexington, Texas or my old buddy Joe Gallagher from Chillicothe, Ohio. Those 2 have more knowledge of deer, and deer hunting than anybody I've ever met.

Both of them hunt predominately public land, are die hard bowhunters, (Robert shoots an old Curtis Byrd or sometimes a Black Widow bow and Joe shot a Dave Guthrie Appalachian flatbow) and kill a truck load of deer.

From: ModernLongbow
Date: 17-Jun-18




Bobby Worthington, just google image search on that for a moment.

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 17-Jun-18




Knowledgeable in what way, selling books and DVD's or consistently feeding their families?

From: gradymaci Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 17-Jun-18




Man you just opened up a thread that will make Canoes vs kayak a short story.. already someone is confused on what you mean..Food for thought.. Ask..In your opinion, then be very specific or vary vague..To much thinking will turn this into a Political Religious rally..

From: Bassman Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 17-Jun-18




Man you just opened up a can of worms

From: limbwalker
Date: 17-Jun-18




For what piece of ground?

From: deerhunt51
Date: 17-Jun-18




That hunter will never seek attention, so no one knows. You may doubt this, but the best needs no affirmation from others.

From: OhioSteve
Date: 18-Jun-18




Mountain Lion!

From: Shotkizer
Date: 18-Jun-18




Probably someone we have never heard from. I have a friend that puts the trad bow celebrities to shame.

From: dean
Date: 18-Jun-18




Considering and going by, how many of the biggest whitetail trophys that are killed in NW Iowa by people that have never even recognized the tracks or have seen the monster bucks that they have killed before the day that they killed it, I would have to say, by statistics, that the most knowledgeable deer hunter is the kid that is on his first year of deer hunting.

From: Woods Walker
Date: 18-Jun-18




Overall? The late Larry Benoit. He was in a class by himself. He knew how to find big bucks, and kill them WHILE THEY KNEW HE WAS AFTER THEM!!! And he did it on a consistent basis!

From: vthunter
Date: 18-Jun-18




I'll have to agree that Larry and my Skeet buddy Lanny Benoit are some of the best deer hunters in the last century. They knew how to find areas where mature bucks lived and then turn their attention to tracking them down.

From: David A.
Date: 18-Jun-18




I would say a top deer biologist who also is a serious deer hunter would be the most knowledgeable overall. However, if you are talking about hunting knowledge it would be someone like Gene/Barry Wensel, or the late Roger Rothhar.

It's hard to say because the best/most knowledgeable hunter may not have taken the most big bucks due to financial constraints.

Until recently, I entirely hunted public land and it is definitely harder than on a managed farm/ranch. Just depends, however as some public land can be exceptional.

From: ga bowhunter
Date: 18-Jun-18




there are great deer hunters in every part of the country that would be the hard part in picking one I agree with the above statement that the most successful don't toot their own horns,and everyone knows a outstanding deer hunter or two or three

From: David A.
Date: 18-Jun-18




Certainly include Bobby Worthington. I have some of his books, too.

From: bowbert
Date: 18-Jun-18




Shotkizer has it! You'll be luck to meet them, and they won't proclaim to be anything.

Bret

From: S. North Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Jun-18




This may be one of those Long treads but I'm liking Ohio Steve response so for. Lol. My Lion

From: ground hunter
Date: 18-Jun-18




I know a few of them, just like you guys and gals. The ones I know are quiet and humble, and covert, they are pretty low key

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 18-Jun-18




Art LaHa from Wisconsin.

From: nomo
Date: 18-Jun-18




Me...in my woods only. ;~)

From: Wild Bill
Date: 18-Jun-18




The OP using the word "knowledgeable" suggests that what he is looking for is on display, therefore, a writer. In that case, I would say that Charles Alsheimer, recently gone to be with The Lord, would be a likely candidate, as well as his sometimes writing partner Leonard Lee Rue.

From: Will tell
Date: 18-Jun-18




I'm not sure what your looking for but know a bunch of hunters who kill deer every year, free ranging deer, some use compounds, some crossbows and somewith traditional equipment. If you want to see who is the best put him in the mountains with a bow, a few arrows and a knife on the ground and see if he can kill a whitetail.

From: swampwalker
Date: 18-Jun-18




Mitch Rompola

From: Nemophilist
Date: 18-Jun-18




The OP didn't specify archery only but I'll stick with archery. I say the late Roger Rothhaar.

From: Therifleman
Date: 18-Jun-18




I'd tell you, but you'd NEVER believe it ;).

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 18-Jun-18




Good one swampwalker. Us Michigan boys remember him well, lol.

From: RonG
Date: 18-Jun-18




That is an impossible question to answer. Goodbye!

From: Adam Howard
Date: 18-Jun-18




Lee & Tiffany of course you silly !! Ha Ha Ha

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 18-Jun-18




Wolves

From: PECO
Date: 18-Jun-18




"Lee & Tiffany" mostly Tiffany, final answer!

From: hookman
Date: 18-Jun-18




My father was the most knowageable whitetail hunter I have ever known. I need to say no more.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 18-Jun-18




I know how to open good threads. Lol. Not boring old left wing vs right wing or what year is this Drake etc. I agree with lots of you guys. Some of the most knowledgable bow hunters I know are just regular guys that hunt public ground or land where there are not many big bucks. They don't have big hunting shows or big company's backing them up. Now having said that I think the best whitetail hunters are the Drury brothers. Lol.,

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 18-Jun-18




How can I be any more specific than that? There can be more than one knowlegable deer hunter?

From: Jimbob
Date: 18-Jun-18




The Wenzel Brothers. Gene and Barry

From: Osage Outlaw
Date: 18-Jun-18




It's impossible to narrow it down to one person. Anyone who consistently kills mature deer on public land or small tracts of land and works a full time job sure has my respect though.

From: South Farm
Date: 18-Jun-18




In my neck of the woods my vote would have to go to Dr. Ken Nordberg.

From: limbwalker
Date: 18-Jun-18




I will say that without question, that person hunts public ground. That should be a requirement for the title IMO.

There are tons of great deer killed on private ground every year. Public land hunters enjoy very few luxuries afforded to a private land hunter.

I'm not saying it doesn't take skill and persistence to kill a smart deer on private ground. It does. But it takes a lot more on public ground.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 18-Jun-18




How do those guys track down deer? I just don't see how they can do that?

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 18-Jun-18




How do those guys track down deer? I just don't see how they can do that?

From: DTala
Date: 18-Jun-18




if he was that knowledgable he would find some good private ground.....

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 18-Jun-18




I agree limbwalker. I have found it is ver hard to kill nature deer here in the mountains of WV where I hunt. I know guys that do it. And I'm talking bowhunting. I have much better success on my iowa kansas Montsna hunts in one week than I do in the Mtn. Wonder why?

From: Will tell
Date: 18-Jun-18




Took a hunting trip to Randolph county in West Virgina and hunted Kumbrabo WMA. I took a buddy who kills a deer every year. Kumbrabo is 10,000 acres of mountains and is pretty ,tough hunting. To makes long story short my bud was like a duck out of water hunting in the Mountains. I had a great week seeing a couple of Bears, some Turkey and a bunch of deer. Some of those great hunters are so great because their hunting some great areas.

From: tonto59
Date: 18-Jun-18




The best Deer hunters that get their deer most every year on hard hunted public land. Are as elusive as the white tail itself. They will probably never make the book. By their own choice. And they want to keep it that way. I know a hunter that has huge racks in baskets in his basement. Never mounted a single one. And never heard him brag once. Some of the very best. We will never know their names...

From: sir misalots
Date: 18-Jun-18




Horton Dempsey Ran an apple orchard 40 years ago (my first job) He Shot 10 deer a night and stacked them like cord wood.

Knew a spotlight and a 30-30 was all you needed Thats knowledge

Sorry (Monday humor)

From: T4halo
Date: 18-Jun-18




I have a neighbor that claims he's the best. Pays through the nose every year to get a big buck. He's a city transplant, knows evrything. I feel for those of you that have to pay to lease farm land. It's good for the farmer and I'm glad to see them get a little cash in their pocket. I grew up in a farm town with only 400 people and the hunting is very good. I feel dang lucky. The guys who know how to hunt where I'm from don't talk about the deer they've killed. Don't want the out of towners coming around.

Every small town has their deer legends. They just do their best not to let the word out.

T4

From: South Farm
Date: 18-Jun-18




Do they teach reading comprehension these days? It's a question, not request for commentary..

From: HeadHunter®
Date: 18-Jun-18




Ya. the Mitch guy from Michigan for sure!

From: Homey88
Date: 18-Jun-18




The Wensels,the late Roger Rothaar and Steve North.

From: texbow2
Date: 18-Jun-18




Chuck Adams...…..sorry the thread needed a boost

From: T4halo1
Date: 18-Jun-18




Are you joking Dave? No way you're being serious?

From: limbwalker
Date: 18-Jun-18




"Do they teach reading comprehension these days? It's a question, not request for commentary..."

Have fun on the internet sir. Because that's all it is.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Jun-18




Lot's of self-proclaimed best hunters, but likely the best are the guys who live in the rural areas of the Applachian Mountains from Georgia to Maine.

From: RymanCat
Date: 18-Jun-18




Its not important so I don't think about things like this. To me its whats in my museum that counts to me! LOL

Just when you see a guy who has a lot of accomplishments another guy is above him. You should have learned that in life already and taken bits and peaces what you learn from others along the way.

frisky thread ask Joe boy he will learn ya.LOL

From: Lowcountry
Date: 18-Jun-18




"Do they teach reading comprehension these days? It's a question, not request for commentary.."

I'm pretty sure posting a topic like that on this site is a request for commentary...

From: limbwalker
Date: 18-Jun-18




"but likely the best are the guys who live in the rural areas of the Applachian Mountains from Georgia to Maine..."

Out of curiosity, why would you say that George?

From: Curlis
Date: 18-Jun-18




Native Americans

From: Monte
Date: 18-Jun-18




X 2 on Homey 88's post.

From: duvall Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Jun-18




i don't know about just whitetails but I think chuck Adams is probably one of the tops overall hunters. if you have never read his book you should....awesome stories about his superslam and what he went through on some of his hints. nothing compared to frisky I'm sure but hey, some times being #2 ain't so bad.

From: StikBow
Date: 18-Jun-18




We will never know. Too many variables

From: blind squirrel Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-Jun-18




The list could be endless personally i think anybody could be a great deer hunter all you need is patience of a glacier, confidence, not overlook hot sign , lots of deer , a good wife ~ boy this list could go on too

From: South Farm
Date: 19-Jun-18




"Do they teach reading comprehension these days? It's a question, not request for commentary.."

I'm pretty sure posting a topic like that on this site is a request for commentary...

Fair enough, but at least have the decency to answer the question in the process. Lot of these guys never answered the question..

From: Mountain Man
Date: 19-Jun-18




Its a broad question,,,,,,i own my own property and can set up my land to draw in deer,food plots,habitat etc But i own a mountain,,the deer population will never be what,,,say a midwest corn farm is The area your hunting has everything to do with it,,,,,so were talking about hunters who travel and hunt many areas? Or professional hunter has the time and opportunity to hunt more often then me with full time job and responsibilitys,,,,,or even someone who pays to hunt were theres not tag requirements or deer limits Or even a farmer who gets land management permits

I know farmers who own 600+ acers and get land management permits for 15 deer a year no sex requirements Where i get standard legal state license and can only take 3-4 deer a season on my 57 acers

Are we comparing bow hunters to gun hunters?

Just a huge amount of variables

Ive known men who take there one buck and one doe every year who arent trophy hunters,,,but have taken those two animals every year since they were 14yrs old to feed the family,,,,those are the hunters i look up to more then a TV show pro,,,,or a big name hunter I get lucky,,,and find the more i put in it the better i do,,i enjoy the food probided bu a deer but dont strickly live on it I do enjoy the whole process from land management to the loose of an arrow,,,,if i dont fill a tag im still content,,i have trophies on my walls,,,no records,for the books but records and bragging rights in my house and my heart The best deer hunters to me are the ones that lose sleep cause they go from working all night to the woods,,or take and use the animal they shoot off the tractor to put food on the table,,or the ones that havent taken a deer in years because theyve been teaching children and others instead of worrying bout there bag limit,,,,or the young hunter who finally got the reward of taking there first animal because they put the time in and use the knowledge someone shared with them to make it happen

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 19-Jun-18




Give me any known name and I will associate their "success" with cash flow, either direct or indirect cash flow.

From: John Cooper
Date: 19-Jun-18




Robert Carter.

From: crowfoot
Date: 19-Jun-18




Just nay be someone that nobody on here has heard of. There are alot of hunters out there that choose not to share their success.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 19-Jun-18




Pearl Drums is right but Art Laha didn't get rich off selling his Trailing Tips brochure at a dollar. He was probably one of the best game trackers around.

From: Landshark Launcher
Date: 19-Jun-18




Frisky is,,he has killed 3 deer,3 years in a row.

From: GUTPILE PA
Date: 19-Jun-18




I agree with Frisky 110% all the way trail cameras and food plots are just wrong!!!

From: BATMAN Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Jun-18




Really good bow-hunters that take deer consistently don't brag a lot. Some might talk about a special hunt but that's about it. Not to mention why should a bow-hunter give up the identity or where-abouts of his best hunting spots??

From: Buckdancer
Date: 19-Jun-18




Remember Dutch Wambold ????

From: Therifleman
Date: 19-Jun-18




"Give me any known name and I will associate their "success" with cash flow, either direct or indirect cash flow."

Pearl Drums said it well.

Not a fan of the "tv personalities". Ive seen them claim too many gut shot deer as "smoked". Not a fan of the high fence hunts either. If i believed they were great id have to believe mark walburg was one of the best shots in the world, that hugh laurie was the best diagnostician, and that homer Simpson was the worlds best dad next to hugh beaumont.

From: Nemophilist
Date: 19-Jun-18

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I have Dutch Wambolds book. Great read. Copyright 1964.

From: limbwalker
Date: 19-Jun-18




"You will laugh but Stan Potts knows more than most ever will. He killed a lot of big deer before he became a celebrity..."

Don't get me wrong - I like Stan (my wife can't stand the guy) but how many of those big deer did he kill on public land?

There is a reason you don't see any whitetail shows filmed on public land. ;) Not many shows really at all, but I can't think of a single whitetail show that was featured public land hunting.

From: lv2bohunt
Date: 19-Jun-18




The original question really had nothing to do with big deer although many of the answers are given with killing big deer in mind. Knowing how to hunt and kill mature deer consistently on pressured ground is difficult. It takes lots of knowledge. If you hunt where there are big deer you will kill big deer if you don’t you won’t but there are mature deer in every area and there are guys that hunt and kill them. They do that because they know what deer do, when and how they do it and can turn that knowledge into meat on the table. There are knowledgeable guys hunting all kinds of areas and with all kinds of weapons.

From: Buckdancer
Date: 19-Jun-18




Hedge hunter 2x on that one .

From: WV Mountaineer
Date: 19-Jun-18




Me.

From: Woods Walker
Date: 19-Jun-18




HH X3.

From: blind squirrel Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Jun-18




So we got Gene , Barry Bobby,the Benoits , Art ,Charles ,Dutch,plus a few more Ok Stan too wish i would of or could spend a week hunting with each one to make my own decision

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 19-Jun-18




I have more respect for guys killing big deer in the eastern states than the Midwest. Heck every kid an woman on tv kills a big buck in Iowa and Kansas and Illinois.

From: DanaC
Date: 20-Jun-18




Lot of excellent and knowledgeable hunters out there, Roger Rothaar's record on monster bucks stands out if you;re into antler scores. Len Rue and Charles Alsheimer for sheer deer knowledge (and superb photography.)

Too many others to name.

(I used to subscribe to the two big magazines on deer hunting but they got too techno-oriented. Hey, the advertisers pay for it, but I stopped.)

From: Bjrogg
Date: 20-Jun-18




I can't answer your question. I just don't know who it is, but I certainly know it's not me. I have a pretty good knowledge of the deer on my farm. How they travel and where they bed. I have a lot to learn about hunting them especially with a selfbow. I learn something every time I go out. I learn from my success and mostly from my failures. They far outnumber my success. I learn from scouting or just plain watching deer. I have learned I enjoy it all and that is what's most important to me. Maybe some day I'll be good enough to never make a mistake. Not likely though. Sorry guess I'm not answering your question but I'm trying to learn and I think that's what it takes to be good at anything. That and a strong desire to keep on learning. Bjrogg

From: Bjrogg
Date: 20-Jun-18




I can't answer your question. I just don't know who it is, but I certainly know it's not me. I have a pretty good knowledge of the deer on my farm. How they travel and where they bed. I have a lot to learn about hunting them especially with a selfbow. I learn something every time I go out. I learn from my success and mostly from my failures. They far outnumber my success. I learn from scouting or just plain watching deer. I have learned I enjoy it all and that is what's most important to me. Maybe some day I'll be good enough to never make a mistake. Not likely though. Sorry guess I'm not answering your question but I'm trying to learn and I think that's what it takes to be good at anything. That and a strong desire to keep on learning. Bjrogg

From: Bjrogg
Date: 20-Jun-18




Sorry about the double post still have a lot to learn about this site to. I also learned a lot from my friends on the PA site. They've been a huge help. Bjrogg

From: Wapiti - - M. S. Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 20-Jun-18




Roger Rothaar

From: Wapiti - - M. S. Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 20-Jun-18




Roger Rothaar

From: Dan
Date: 20-Jun-18




I would think Ishi since everyone else named were not dependent on the harvest to survive. If you lived it everyday and your survival was dependent on knowing your game, it would take it to a whole other level or you would not live.

From: hockey7
Date: 20-Jun-18




How about the fellow from the southern states....Warren Womack.

From: digicon
Date: 20-Jun-18




Alan Altizer gets my vote.

From: Dan
Date: 20-Jun-18




I would have to say Ishi. Everyone else listed were not dependant on the harvest for their survival. I would think living everyday needing to harvest for survival would take your skill and knowlege to a whole other level.

From: limbwalker
Date: 20-Jun-18




"Killing big deer on public land don't really come into play, most big deer are not killed on public anyway..."

which is exactly my point.

"i would of or could spend a week hunting with each one to make my own decision..."

I agree Blind Squirrel. That would be fun.

From: rallison
Date: 20-Jun-18




Hands down...the greatest whitetail man I've known was a gentleman from my home town. He passed on a couple years ago, but he was, and still is, a legend to the few he'd allow to enter his inner circle.

I won't mention his name in a public forum, but he owned and maintained several properties around the area. His shed antler collection was museum worthy, and he had pairs from the same animals covering years of life.

His son collected two Booners off one property in a 4 year span, as well as others anyone would be prout to hang on their wall.

He shot an Asbel Bighorn only. He wouldn't allow any bucks shot off his property in the late season...saying think how big he'll be next year. Immediate family only hunted his properties...he was adamant on that.

My favorite story was told to me by a good friend several years ago, who killed a 152", 10 point behind his place, which was across a river and up a bluff about 3 miles from from "Bob's" property.

"Hank" told nobody, but got a phone call from Bob, saying, "I heard you got a good one, I'll be up after dinner to take a look"...they were friends.

Upon arrival, he said...that's what one I thought...he was on my place all summer. I've got his sheds from the last 3 years...I'll let you have them if you'll admit he was there.

Hank said, "If he was there all summer, what was he doing all the way up here?" Bob looked him straight in the eye and said...because the big ones chased him out...lol. He was serious.

So, Hank has 3 years of sheds on plaques next to a beautiful shoulder mount. There's little doubt they're from the same animal.

The man was legendary.

From: S. North Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 20-Jun-18




Remember all the post asked knowledgeable whitetail hunter. That doesn't mean killed big bucks I think and always will think a mature does is one of the toughest animals to take with traditional. Just my take on this

From: Car54 Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 20-Jun-18




rallison, If you have any pics of his deer, please post them. I would love to see them. Thanks

From: rallison
Date: 20-Jun-18




Car54...no photos. Bob was rather "eccentric" and shunned any and all publicity. I only spoke with him a couple times, but knew his two sons.

My old mentor got into his inner circle and was the only non family member I know who was allowed to hunt any of his properties...spring turkey ONLY, not deer...lol.

He told me a story about Bob at a local archery shop where the two owners were teasing him about shooting a recurve, knowing him and his legacy, saying...nobody should be allowed to hunt with a "sliver-slinger", you can't hit or kill anything with them! They were only pulling his leg...not serious.

Bob told them...go over and watch Rick Allison shoot that Black Widow...he'll out shoot both you jokers!

I said, Bob's never seen me shoot. Howard answered...yes he has, you just didn't know it! Lol.

That's just the kind af guy he was. And by the way, in my knowledge, he rarely actually killed a deer. But he was a master of QDM and habitat maintenance.

From: limbwalker
Date: 20-Jun-18




"I think and always will think a mature does is one of the toughest animals to take with traditional. Just my take on this..."

Agreed. I've shot a few mature does on public land with a traditional bow. Each one of them felt like a major accomplishment.

From: Wild Bill
Date: 20-Jun-18




Hmmmmmm, all those hunters who took big deer, dare I say it, could have just been lucky. After all, either, as some say, they didn't brag about it,or, they didn't write about it, and show what they truly know.

And after all, the greater knowledge was what the OP was looking for.

From: WildernessBuck
Date: 20-Jun-18




I was not going to respond to this thread at first but after thinking about the title as it refers to the most "knowledgeable" whitetail hunter I would say it would be hard to argue that Charles J. Alsheimer has to be near the top of the list. There really is no correct answer to the question,there are hundreds of possible answers,but if its knowledge you are after,Charles had it.

From: spike78
Date: 20-Jun-18




I read a Wensel book and he even stated he wasn’t a great deer hunter but had great deer land. He said his money goes to a kid with a lot of hunting days. I live where their are about 10 dpsm and decent size woods so it is a lot harder to be a great deer hunter then other states with 30 dpsm. Although I met a guy here who consistently shoots big bucks every year. He patterns them and takes his vacation the first week of the season in October and usually has his target down in the first week. I’d put him up against the big names any day.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 20-Jun-18




Limbwalker, because it's the oldest mountain range in the US, and has been inhabited for hundreds of years. These folks lived on deer meat for a very long time. Now I didn't say best bowhunters, but likely it wouldn't change much. It's pretty much a rhetorical question as no one can say who is best when you don't even know who all the bowhunters are, and what their success rate is.

From: Bill Rickvalsky
Date: 21-Jun-18




Lots of interesting comments and a lot of good bowhunters have been mentioned. But it seems that a lot of people equate "knowledgeable" to "successful". Is it automatic that in order to be considered knowledgeable you have to have proven it by killing a lot of deer?

From: Greyfox
Date: 21-Jun-18




Back in the 90's, I learned a lot from Ben Lee, from Alabama. Don't recognize any of the names mentioned above except Frisky. He has the right attitude to be a real Hunter.

From: NOVA7
Date: 21-Jun-18




I know Owen Jeffery had one bow he shot over 100 deer with. And that was just one of many bows he owned.

From: bfisherman11 Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 21-Jun-18




I agree with many of the names mentioned. Like most things it's hard to give something or someone the place of being the best. Also starting with say Roy Case till now the deer population has certainly had something to do with all our ability to harvest deer so the era you hunted matters.

So I want to say I agree with many guys and many names. I would also like to add a local guy/friend, Mike Mitten to the list. Mike not only knows our favorite quarry, he knows the woods they live in better than most.

I also think I know who Mr Allison was talking about (Mr. H.) and if it is the same fellow I agree, he was a very prolific hunter. We have an outdoor 3d league and at the end of the year they give away a big buck award and again, if it is the man I think, I lost one year by a few inches of antler. I never felt in better company.

Bill

From: Sam Dunham Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 21-Jun-18




The best WT hunters have no time to be popular because they are in the woods 365.

From: Elkpacker1
Date: 21-Jun-18

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I am a squirl

From: Elkpacker1
Date: 21-Jun-18

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but looking for several nuts. you get bigger deer (not mine but killed on the same property. Yes the land you hunt has lots to do with size. This a black tail from my the area I live in. The ridge has better mineral content so bigger deer.

From: Elkpacker1
Date: 21-Jun-18

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This is a typical Easter WT, good but not the meneral content. with good land and time we all get deer.

From: Bucbuster
Date: 21-Jun-18




Roger Rothhaar could target a specific giant buck and close the deal. Over and over again.

From: Missouribreaks
Date: 21-Jun-18




Totally depends on the geographic area, and era. Too many variables such as weapons, technology, transportation, game laws, herd size, available licenses, and management,to name a few. Silly to even comment on one particular hunter being better.

From: Michael Schwister Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 22-Jun-18




There are a few truly great whitetail hunters out there. But for My2cents it is the Wensel twins in a walk-off. Over 120 years experience between the two of them. Can't talk with either of them for more than five minutes without learning something about whitetail hunting.

Roger Rothaar taught us all how to hunt scrapes and the rut.

Have heard many great things about Bobby Worthington's ability on public land deer.

From: jrh24
Date: 22-Jun-18




I'm surprised that Myles Keller's name didn't come up much. Shot a lot of big bucks. Maybe the accident has something to with that. Sad all the way around. John

From: David A.
Date: 23-Jun-18




There are probably dozens if not hundreds of guys who have equal high level of deer IQ and hunting method IQ, but all don't have the same lengthy history even though their levels are equal.

There are advanced techniques being shared on YouTube, forums, and in other ways that makes the dissemination of knowledge much faster. Same for elk hunting.

Mule deer hunting lags a bitt since most guys are still only spot and stalk hunters. I hacked mulies for trad. bows by learning their language and being able to replicate with my own voice much better than any calls. It's an interesting way to hunt esp. from tripods or on the ground decoying. Decoying mulies is becoming more common and even by itself can be very effective.

From: BC173
Date: 23-Jun-18




No one and I mean no one knows who the best might be. Rhetorical question for sure. But, one thing is for certain, you can only be as good, as the property you have access to will allow!

From: lv2bohunt
Date: 23-Jun-18




“You can only be as good as the property you have access to” BC173

Only if your gauge of the best is inches of antler. Mature deer are everywhere. Consistently killing mature deer takes a level of knowledge far beyond the average Hunter.

From: vintage-bears
Date: 23-Jun-18




I'm sure there are many knowledgeable whitetail experts out there but in my neck of the woods his name is Carl. You'd be hard pressed to find a person who understands Whitetail bucks as well as he does.

From: Killinstuff
Date: 23-Jun-18




This is a stupid question. You guys think killing big deer makes someone a "great hunter"? All it means is they get to hunt in places that have big deer. I can catch 10 pound bass all day in a lake with 10 pounders and all it means is I know what I'm doing. If I write book or start talking like I know WTF bass do does that mean I'm a somebody? Heck no, it just means I'm trying to capitalize on fishing and get you to give me your money. Don't confuse guys that talk a lot, get to hunt places where the odds are they will kill big animals with someone being a great hunter.

John Cooper mentioned Robert Carter and he is a "great hunter". If you gave him the time and took care of his worries he is going to figure it out and kill stuff anywhere. There are a lot of guys out there just like him too and none have TV shows or have written a book.

From: David A.
Date: 24-Jun-18




Don't overly play the victim game. A guy who is dead serious about deer hunting mature if not bigger bucks will find good ground and he will make the necessary time. Maybe not this year or next year, but sooner or later he will get it all together.

From: John Cooper
Date: 24-Jun-18




Warren Womack

From: greyghost
Date: 24-Jun-18




J.R. Wright, was a friend and local Hoyt dealer.He passed away at 50 years old way to early.He helped more people learn to take deer than anyone on the East coast. I've known a lot of good hunters and some so called celebrity hunters. J.R. used modern and traditional equipment but always just used his fingers, no glove or tab. He killed more whitetails than the plague. It's always the guys you never hear about that are the Best.

Ghost

From: al snow
Date: 24-Jun-18




What a thread! Yes, it's the doldrums of summer, and not many folks garden or fish anymore.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 24-Jun-18




I know how to start popular threads. Lol

From: Cyclic-Rivers Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 26-Jun-18




Dan infalt does a good job at getting into the personal space of deer on a consistent basis both public and private ground.

From: buroak
Date: 26-Jun-18




I have always thought my dad was the best deer hunter, at least one that I knew. He taught me everything I know. One time he shot a giant 9 point and after tracking it a bit we realized it was just a glancing shot. Mostly white belly hair and no blood. When I asked him if he was going to look more in the morning he told me he was going to shoot the buck in a stand on public ground over 5 miles from where we were at. I laughed and thought “yeah right”. The next morning I woke up to a phone call asking me if I could help drag him out. He knew exactly where that deer was going to hide. I knew then to never doubt him.

From: swampwalker
Date: 27-Jun-18




Throw in another name, David Morris.

From: spike78
Date: 27-Jun-18




Mitch Rompola

From: Barry Wensel Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 27-Jun-18




Mitch Rompola??? HHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

From: S. North Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 28-Jun-18




X2 Barry. X2

From: spike78
Date: 28-Jun-18




Yup watch the attached interview.

From: spike78
Date: 28-Jun-18




Odd I put it on their but didn’t work. Yeah if anyone has a reason to not think so please go ahead and post why. The man scouts 300 days a year, held three state records first at 10 years old. All most likely public land and not on guided hunts.Possibly the world record who knows? Look up his interview and be the judge.

From: craig Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 28-Jun-18




Barry

From: South Farm
Date: 28-Jun-18




Manilow?

From: Hortonbottoms
Date: 28-Jun-18




My Dad

From: Barry Wensel Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 28-Jun-18




I really hesitate putting my personal opinions on a public forum but I feel bad so many of you have been lead astray. I'm not even talking about his "world record", I'm talking about the man himself. How do you do it without being sued?

From: Killinstuff
Date: 28-Jun-18




Who was the other guy that screwed the pooch, Noel Feather? B remembers I'm sure. Used to do the speaking tour thing back in the day.

From: spike78
Date: 28-Jun-18




Barry are you saying all his bucks were a farce?

From: okiebones
Date: 28-Jun-18




Who're we talking about besides Rompola ?

From: RymanCat
Date: 29-Jun-18




Bat there is no sense in showing animals anymore or even taking about them James. They hate you more for it especially when you embarrass guys with the trophy's they see yours then look at what they don't have in a lot of cases these days.

The most knowledgeable are the ones who can set themselves up and shoot an animal no matter what size it is consistently.

Indians learned how to do that to eat. Those who learn woodsman ship and whatever you can learn off another to help you learn to set up for the shot is what should be done.

It doesn't matter what it takes to get the animal it matters only if you have the animal and only you know what was done to get them.

Many look at others who have many animals and scratch their heads because they don't or can't do it or have never done it. It takes being in the right place at the right time and it takes some knowledge to get there.

Take Frisky he knows when to get in his vehicle to do a drive over.LOL

From: Frisky
Date: 29-Jun-18




A lot of people laugh at my ability to find wounded game and finish it off, but that's what separates the true greats from the also rans. A true great knows when animals are subject to heavy traffic, on roads and right in the corn, and will keep an eye on the ditches and field edges. Lesser hunters will not even notice these things.

Joe

From: David Janssen
Date: 29-Jun-18




The best is John Eberhart from Michigan.Look him up you may learn a few things from him.He is one of the good guys.

From: onager Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 30-Jun-18




Chief Tomah, in WI area won a challenge who was the best hunter in tribe. In one day, dawn to dusk, he collected nine deer tongues, his competitor had eight. I vote for Chief Tomah.

From: Tim Finley Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 30-Jun-18




I don't consider anyone that kills with a gun, crossbow or compound to be the best they don't have to get as close . Im sure there are lots of good ones the only ones I know are the Wensel boys and Roger Rothhar





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