A little help please. I am a right handed shooter and I am consistently shooting about 6 to 8" to the left. My setup is as follows: 62" 3 pc Stewart longbow takedown, 40#@26 draw. Shooting off a hoyt rest. arrows are Beman centershot 600s cut to 28.375 inches with 150 grain field pts. Total arrow weight 458 grains. I believe my form is consistent, so I am at loss here. Thanks for the assist.

Are you using heavy brass inserts?

How long have you been shooting? I am no expert but assuming everything is tuned correctly and you have a good release you are probably moving your bow arm slightly left after release, could be that simple. Try watching the arrow all the way to the target, this helps me keep my bow arm lined up when I start shooting left. I assume you shoot instinctive, another thing that helps me is to pic a totally different target, something without a dot on it, find a spot and bear down on it, reboot your brain. Sounds crazy but works for me when I am off.

I don't know the center shot of the bow. If it's from about 1/8" to cut-to-center you "may' have an alignment issue.

I've had the exact same situation, for me it was a form of target panic. Joel Turner describes it as not so much of a panic but your mind bracing you for the bow going off. He can teach you ways to get around this issue.

Ok....first, it isn't likely anything to do with the equipment.

When you shoot, do you have the ENTIRE arrow from the string nock, to the arrow point aligned with the target? ANd no, it doesn't matter if you shoot "instinctively", gap. sights, point of aim, it doesn't matter.

My first guess is that you don't. So, go shoot some more, and when you get to anchor, ensure that everything is lined up with the center of the target, and shoot.

You can see the arrow on the ouside of the string, or you can see the arrow on the inside of the string, it makes no difference, as long as it is in the same place very shot.

If you use the search function ‘hitting left’ you will fill your head with advice from many viewpoints.

If your form is good then you are probably over spined. How is the arrow flight? Jawge

Guys.....that diagram only works if the alignment is correct to begin with. If the foundational alignment isn't correct, it's meaningless.

I just aim right when I get a case of the lefts.

I just ran your setup thru Stu's calculator. While it isn't the be all and end all it can give a pretty good indication of how well your arrows match your set up. It indicates you could be over spined. We'd need some additional info. What is your draw length? Is it 26 inches (40# at 26"). If as you say your form is ok I'd be looking at this. (My setup with 50# and a 27 inch draw uses 28" goldtips (600) with 225 grains up front.)

I hate to disagree but I believe your arrows may be stiff. I shoot 600's at 30" from a 45 pound bow drawing 29 1/2. We may have a center cut difference but that is something to check out.>>-->Ken

OOPS. Disregard my previous post. I screwed up with my data in the calculator. Sorry 'bout that.

I agree with some of the others that you may be overspined. If that’s making you consistently hit to the left, I don’t know. But I am shooting 44#@28 and full length 600s with 150 up front bareshaft good for me.

I am with fdp (really?..lol) hold the bow up like you were shooting it with an arrow loaded.... where is it pointed?

Maybe you are left eye dominant? When my father started shooting, I believe a lot of his shots were 8-12" to the left. Turned out he was left eye dominant. Started shooting lefty and he was deadly.

Try bareshafting one of those .600s. With those specs I think you should be close, maybe borderline stiff, but not 6-8".

Your stiff on spine IMO try some 200 grain points and see if your arrows fly down the middle , I'm shooting more weight with full length arrows and 200 grains out of similar bows

Too stiff; too weak. Hang on; turn loose.

Bare shafting and spine probably doesn't mean much at this point. Even a grossly out of spine "arrow" will fly down the middle.

My guess is, it's an alignment issue. Before you start chasing your tail, please check it first.

Way too stiff. Try 700s like the axis arrows. Start bareshaft full length and verify your results over multiple shots ( i sometimes do this over several days) before doing any cutting. Carbon arrows stiffen up quickly when you begin shortening.

My wife shoots a 70 inch 32 lb W&W target bow off the shelf with 29 inch G.T. Entrada 600s and 100 grain field points. I shoot the same arrow with my 42 lb 66inch Dalaa and a 45lb Sage. They shoot straight down the line.

We have some unknowns here. First of all, how tall are you. I wonder about the 26 inch draw. I can't see a video, but I could get most to draw an inch longer. And that's a little movement to the right.

Second, 6 to 8 inches at what distance. If it's at 20, that's a problem, at 40 maybe a little point weight will cure things.

And since form is consistent, I'm wondering if the form is good. Like a slight collapse will put that arrow off to the left.

I'd also check what FDP mentions.

And a general question, do you think he'd have this problem if he had a coach?

Bowmania

I don't know how experienced of an archer you are, but have you checked eye dominance?

Tagman 79: I am a right hander like you and I had almost exactly the same situation. Grouping 10" left, in my case. It turned out I was making a subtle form mistake that was difficult to spot: I was collapsing my foam at the instant of releasr, just ever so slightly. This caused the bow rhand to jerk just slightly left at the instant of release. When I figured this out, I concentrated on expanding fotm through the shot. That fixed the problem by counteting the tendenCy to collapse.

Respectfully---His choice of bow,his statements,and the fact that he said his form is consistent,kinda says he knows which eye he uses and knows what he is doing. For a 26"draw that arrow should be stiff. Several examples here concur. Load the front of that arrow up as heavy as you can. If it shifts to the right you will know. You need a lighter spined arrow. Then check it out per Buzz's chart. If you are still having a problem seek a coach. Bomania is a good one as is Arne/mobow.Good luck friend. >>>----> Ken

what fdp and casto said plus the full lengh 600s shoot good out of about anything within 30 -45lbs. point wte.,fletching size,cut them if you have to? can be made to work on a bunch of bows...ron

Thanks everyone. Oldnewby I am going to concentrate on your suggestion expanding thru the shot. Also, I think I might have trim the arrows to short and they are now stiff. Shawn, I will add some weight up front and see what happens.

So I'm the only archer that thinks it's possible that the problem may be between his ears?

No you're not Flash. Tagman, you didn't give us the range but 6 to 8 inches is big for tuning issues, no? You say your form is consistent, and you say the missing left is consistent. This sounds good to me, maybe just one form error to find. Right handed? Close your left eye when you shoot. Get the arrow lined up straight, elbow back, don't pluck around, etc.

The first thing I would do ( and the cheapest ) is raise your brace height.

Closing his eye won't help him at all.

Form can be consstant, and still be bad Shooting left in all likelihood as was stated before, is in all likelihood an alignmnet thing. It's very common for right handed archers to align the string with the target, even if subconsciously, and have the point of the arrow too far to the left, hence the shooting left.

Folks hat to hear it, but an arrow is just like a gun barrel. Where ever you have the rear sight, (the nock/string) and the front sight (the point of the arrow) pointed, that's the line it will follow when you pull the strigger (turn the string loose). Simple as that.

However, one thing is for absolutely certain. If you aren't aligne, and if you don't have the arrow aligned from the string, to the point. to the target, you will never figure it out. If you don't know where the whole arrow is pointed, you don't kknow if it's shooting left or not. Simple as that. And if you don't know that, you don't kknow whether it's spine or not.

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Or just aim 6" to the right;)

like I said add point weight and shoot the same if the arrows group down the middle or move right you know you are overspined with your current arrows that's the easiest way to tell, if you still shoot left then look at form changing form first is crazy IMO if he is grouping arrows he's doing something right!

pointing the arrow at the target or moving bow to the right of target doesn't make sense either I would think pointing the hand with proper alignment and letting paradox take care of arrow flight unless i'm missing something?

He's not necessarily doing something right, but he is doing something consistently. The first thing to make sure of any time in tuning is being in alignment.

Arrows will not shoot 6" to the left or right at 20 yards or under due to spine issues; bare shafts will.

Why do you bare shaft tune? Because arrows will fly down the middle even if they're grossly over/under spined.

One day I got mad because of shooting left and put a tighter grip on my LB and started shooting center. I thought I had my left shooting problem figured out. I was pushing with my shoulder instead of my bow arm side back muscles, but I still had an occasional left shooting string of shots. When I got mad and firmly gripped the bow things got better. I don't know if it will help you' but it helped me.

Try tilting your head so your eye is "directly over" the arrow and line things up that way. Try it and tell me whether or not that works ;)

Careful, there is some bum dope above.

My first guess is that you are anchoring too far out on your face. I suggest you get a couple of good archers or a coach to check that for you.

While you are at it have them check your alignment and posture. You may be able to get another inch or two of draw length which would also move impact to the right.

Work on form, not equipment. - lbg

Video yourself and turn it over to the panel of experts for a quick solution. Then the brass inserts, brace height, eye dominance, grip, arrow length, point weight, cut to center, spine, form, consistency etc might have meaning, as without seeing you do your thing folks here are giving their best guess.. well intentioned but guesses

All my longbows that I shoot are out from center and if anything I fight rights...and... with overspined arrows. I am a right handed shooter.

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I will say I had a similar issue that Oldnewby wrote. Mine was VERY subtle, but had a great impact on impact point. I was gripping the bow very aggressive right at release and then back off, this made the bow torque to the right but caused the string to move left and the arrow followed the string. My wife did a lot of filming and watching to finally notice what was happening. I went from great groups and tuned arrows to.. Well, I messed up a few arrows before I figured it out. Hope you get the kinks worked out and aligned.

-Bones

What fdp said! One of my bad habits I'm fighting to correct.

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