Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


knock high

Messages posted to thread:
Jarhead 19-Mar-18
Okiak 19-Mar-18
aromakr 19-Mar-18
Wild Bill 19-Mar-18
George D. Stout 19-Mar-18
Zildjian51 19-Mar-18
2 bears 19-Mar-18
Bowmania 19-Mar-18
From: Jarhead
Date: 19-Mar-18




Fellas - was setting up my new Centaur a few weeks ago... and for the life of me could not get rid of my knock high (bare shaft tuning). I came to the Wall and read several threads and opinions on the matter. After reading up, I tried everything under the sun... high wrist... low wrist... tight grip... lose grip...wrist rotated... three fingers below... two fingers below... split finger... and all of the these combinations while working my nock up and down the string... changed my shelf... nothing worked. A few things helped... but nothing worked. After a while I felt like I exhausted all my options/combinations. THEN I remembered a few guys saying "put a nock below the string" because sometimes the middle finger (for a split finger shooter) is exerting force/pressure/torque/nothing good on the nock. I remember this recommendation because several experienced shooters COMPLETELY dismissed that as a possible solution citing various reasons why putting a string nock below the arrow nock wouldn't do a damn thing to help. But I was out of options... so I tried it - fixed it right away. Damn arrow flew like a dart from 10... so I shot it again... dart... backed up to 15... dart.... backed up to 20-... dart.

I learned a few lessons... not all of them archery related.

From: Okiak
Date: 19-Mar-18




Thanks for the feedback.

From: aromakr Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 19-Mar-18




jarhead:

You are correct, it has only been in the last 40-50 years that people nocked under the nock point. In the early years of archery they nocked on top, because of that very reason. Upon release you can sometimes push the arrow nock down the string causing the problem you describe.

Bob

From: Wild Bill
Date: 19-Mar-18




jarhead,

So, are you saying you now have a string nock below and above the arrow nock?

I've been working on the same problem and will try your suggestion, however, I've been getting better results with a downsize of aluminum shaft, from 2016 to 1916, and a lighter point, from 125gn to 100gn.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Mar-18




Must have some serious down torque on that string. I've heard of arrows moving down on release, but I've never experienced it myself, using mostly one nock for decades. Easy enough to put one under the the arrow nock as well.

I tried the 'nock above the nockset' thing for a while but didn't much care for it. Nocking below will keep the arrow in place through leverage. Of course that's the way I learned so it's a comfort zone also.

From: Zildjian51
Date: 19-Mar-18




I ran into a similar problem. I've always used one nocking point above the nock. I was having problems with arrow being too stiff and read somewhere that less strands on your bowstring will help. I also felt like the nock was fitting too tight. I decided to make a new string with two less strands. Put the new nocking point on which helped to release the arrow easier from the string. I use 3 under and string walk as well. Shot my first arrow and was surprised when the arrow shot about 4 feet high from the same distance I've been shooting. Low and behold as I pulled to full draw, the arrow moved down the string. The second nocking point helped to correct the problem.

From: 2 bears
Date: 19-Mar-18




It is a know fact now. It just doesn't seem to bother some folks as much as others. I have no idea why but a second nock below the arrow doesn't seem to have any negative effects for anyone. Glad it fixed things for you. >>>----> ken

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Mar-18




As George said it comes from torqueing the string. At the split second of release the nock moves forward and the nock also moves down as the torque is removed from the string.

Bowmania





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