I'll start, first week 237, second week 242, third week 244. I'm happy with that.

As an added note, I was the only bare bow archer at or league until this year. Two new converts, they both said you looked like you were having fun, so they wanted to give it a try.

If you shot those scores, bare bow, in league shooting you are indeed a force to be reckoned with.

Nice shooting. What's your bow and arrow setup?

My buddy Scott has been shooting every Tuesday evening with the gang...all compounds and sights except for him, and he is doing pretty well. I'll see if I can get him to share his scores. All the compound shooters are cool folk and very friendly as well. Scott's shooting his Carroll's Lewis Takedown.

At one time in the past the city had an indoor range that my archery club maintained. A few of us got together every Thursday night for years and punched paper.

I shot instinctively with my Bighorn recurve and 2018 aluminum arrows. I shot between 250 and 275 most of the time and am pretty sure I shot a 290 one time when the stars aligned.

I couldn't shot a 5 spot because the extra spots drew my attention away from my intended target. I always shot a 1 spot.

When I switched exclusively to selfbows that I made my shooting was pretty bad. My first bows were pretty crude and didn't shoot all that well. They closed the range permanently before I evolved into a really good bow maker so I don't know how I would do shooting spots in the range now.

That would be some great shooting Eric.

Flash, I shoot an awesome bow IMHO. It is a 21" Hoyt Excel Black out with Hoyt Grand Prix F7 Triaxial Carbon Foam limbs pulling 30# at my draw. I twisted up a BCY X 12 strand string, and shoot full length 700 spine Carbon Express Medallion XR shafts with 2" feathers and about 90 grain target points. My last target at league Tue. night was XXX 5,4, Gezz! I can't believe I can't hit 25.

240 with a stickbow is way above what the average trad shooter can shoot.

Dewayne Martin

Dewayne, that's what I was wondering, particularly how the targets are setup. The are likely different than what I shot forty couple years ago. Some of these fellows should be shooting in National tournaments regarding the scores they say they shoot.

I shoot on a league Thursdays, with my BW PLX, 62", 47# @ 28". I've shot from 239 up to 266 on an NFAA single spot target. Last Thursday I shot 259.

Shot all winter,25 " Nexus riser, SF Carbon plus limbs 36#@32"Old World Class X7 2115's.Split finger corner of mouth anchor,the way I hunt.NFAA Trad class.Shot 248-272 .State indoor was a 480 for both days,ave.240.Way behind the National level but I'm working on it.Great fun!

Ok for us old non initiated, googling 300 round comes up a couple of different ways to shoot it. Only time I ever shot it (senior olympics) we shot 40cm blue target with 5 arrows per end @ 20 yards. I noticed Lancaster shoot they were only shooting 3 arrows per end. So what 300 round are you shooting.

Sounds like a great target setup. You will have a 25 end but then you'll want another. ..

Yep, 5 arrows each end, 4 ends to a game, three games for a 300 round. Shot at 20 yards. Don't have a target in the house to measure, but the blue with white center target. I would guess the bull is approximately 1 1/2" with the X roughly the size of a US Quarter.

When someone is talking a 300 round, they're referring to NFAA blue face target; 20 yards; 12, 5 arrow ends.

Lancaster Classic was shooting WA rules. The 3 arrow ends was the shootoffs, not the qualifing.

I also shoot split finger, draw till middle finger hits corner of mouth, shoot. I do not hold at full draw, I hit my anchor and shoot.

At Lancaster they were shooting the 600 FITA round, the multicolored target. 3 arrow per round for 20 rounds at 18 meters for qualifying. 600 is the perfect score.

Flash, thanks.

Kerry, 259/266 is great! Only a few in the Country can regularly beat that shooting Bare bow in completion.

I'm probably only average. I shoot between 190-210. It took me a couple of years to get there but I continue to get slightly better. By the time I get good, I will not be able to see good enough to hit s--t. I do enjoy it though.

grizzly, I think that is decent shooting. When I started shooting spot league, and I had to shoot at a target backer shared with three other archers, My goal was not to hit the wood frame around the target bail!

I need to find a league.

I worked on it a lot last year and my back yard average was 250. My best (BACK YARD!) was a 276.

But I know I'd crack under pressure :)

So far, four recent scores have been posted for an average of 245.5. I suppose, a few more posters will raise it to around 295 for the average Leatherwaller. I'm calling bogus on it.

Joe

I know you're just being Frisky...but I obsessed on it about every day for a few months.

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deerhunt51, I've shot many 3D competitions over the years, but only shot NFAA on local leagues. I watched the shooters at Vegas a couple different years and realize that type of competition would increase pressure and reduce scores. A few years ago I had a 270 average on the league, but age has reduced my scores some! On this years league we have 8 traditional shooters, and most are shooting in the 170's to 190's.

Kerry that is awesome shooting. Ya I hear you, age is about to catch up with Me as well.

Frisky, I hear you. Thing is My shooting is done at Washtenaw Sportsman's Club in S.E. MI. Kind of easy to check if you think I'm making false claims.

JustSomeDude, don't underestimate yourself. The trick is just do what you know. I find if I try too hard it goes badly. The way I shoot is so intuitive, and if I try to hard, I shoot poor groups. If I just execute my form while picking a small spot, I shoot tight groups. I guess biggest problem, if you want to nit pick, is I often shoot tight groups that would fit in the 5 spot, but are only half in. So 22 or so points instead of 25.

It harder than it looks and really makes you concentrate on form. I tried it a couple of weeks ago and could get a 200 using a Bear takedown and wood arrows which i was fine with. I could do better with more practice im sure.

I've been around it a few times but lots of "tweakers" involved. Three under, fat arrows to cut the lines, and long arrows so the tip of the arrow makes the perfect "pin". Then the line was so damn crowded you couldn't cant your bow without hitting the guy next to you.

I just found no pleasure in it.

The last time I did this was 20 ends 3 shots per end.

Outside in the wind & cold, and no warm up shots prior to shooting for score.

Not my best by a long shot. Not even close to my best average from days gone by, but not bad for a heavy hunting rig.

Rick

In the league that just ended and in a regional competition, I averaged 235 with a high of 249, using a bow I built in my basement. It is just the second one I built. Pretty amazed it shoots that good since I really have no clue about building a bow.

Sorry to mess with your numbers Frisky but I shot 220 last Thursday night in a league. BW SA, 2016 arrows, hunting bow...draw and shoot, but I do use a Barbee tab. Wish it worked for me as well as it does Rick!

This was my first attempt at an NFAA 300 round with my Barebow rig. Shot a pleasant 275. Made a few sloppy mistakes. There’s room for improvement.

Nice shooting there. My last round was 3 weeks ago with my '89 Super Diablo #70@28. It's in my averages. 260/300. I will try one later with my new to me Hoyt Aerotec riser and #60 limbs - for the riser are around #55.

Shawn,

“If you can average over 250 with a hunting rig you are elite in my book. JRW probably can but I cannot name more then 5 or 6.”

Before I jumped back into target bows a little over five years ago I used to average 270s with my hunting bow (56# TradTech Titan). I would be willing to bet that any of the upper level competitive barebow archers could do that easily with a hunting setup (if I could do it, dang sure a lot of other people can…and better). The only reason we don’t know is they (like me at this time) just don’t shoot those rounds with their hunting bows.

They need a "Heavy Hunter" (60# or more) class in the NFAA.

:-)

Rick

Maybe Rick :D You did yours with ~70 bow too. But I am way behind you if I count the 290/300 you did with #98 bow

We're closing in on 295 folks! Keep em coming!

Joe

Go out and do it Frisky. With the wonderbow you can make 330/300

I have never shot a tournament in my life until last year (back surgery) where I wasn't shooting my hunting rig. The above posted scores were with a 70# Bighorn, I was pulling about 60 pounds because I was snap shooting and didn't ever anchor. I have a short draw as well, around 25-26".

I was shooting 2018s with a 125gr point that I tuned by length to shoot a perfect three fletch bullet hole out of my Bighorn when I shot through the paper.

I punched paper 25 years ago when I was hale and hardy.

223 tonight, Joe. Sorry I keep dragging your average down.

I was averaging 270’s with a personal best of 287. but cut the tendon on my right index finger. Thanks to to the awesome folks at CD archery I got a left hand riser and have been shooting lefty. I’m back up in the 240’s. High of 258. Can’t wait to go back to right

Wow, arrowchucker. I knew we had a few of the top archers in the country on this site. Averaging 270 makes you one of the very few in the country that I know of that can do that. That's great!

Anyone ever detune their bow to give them a 20 yard spot/point on?

I used to do it all the time, and one thing I noticed was - my tune/detune would often be different for that point on depending on the difference in angles of the lighting at different indoor ranges.

Rick

No, I don't Rick. The bows I've shot the rounds are "vintage" and 58" or 60" AMO. But with my new to me 23" Hoyt Aerotec riser and medium limbs for a 66" AMO I will. Time to get serious?!? Or maybe not.

When I shoot left handed, my arrow point is 15" down. But when I shoot Right handed it is only 6" down.

If we throw out Herbie's pathetic attempts, we'll be in business here.

Joe

Rick, I used to do it all the time. Even with a perfect tune, I find lighting from different locations sometimes require a turn or two on the plunger. I have two clubs I shoot at all the time and I can never get then to hit the same at both to this day. Lol.

John, I dicovered it by accident shooting at my home range when some of their lights were out. It was a very fortunate discovery.

I would warm and check it everywhere I went to shoot, and slightly adjust center shot, and/or nock in point to compensate.

Most folks thought I was crazy. :-)

Rick

Is that the reason why they thought you were crazy? Most likely cause you chose to shoot a single string. Lol

Ill post my 300 scores this year. I only shot four that mattered. We don't shoot this target all year as we focus more on the fita face and the fita rules. I shoot the nfaa traditional bow for a week and a half out of the year. This year it was only nfaa sectionals and nfaa nationals. Sectionals were 286 (fita arrow aiming under the paper) and 298 (point on heavier arrow). At nationals I shot a 281 and a 290. (different arrow all together). Just not a lot of time with that bow and setup to be really consistent. Could be good could be bad, just don't know.

John That is awesome shooting. I shoot instinctive and am getting old, so don't know if I will break 250 or not. I may shoot 420 tournament for kicks and giggles just to get my buddies off my back. If I do and don't embrace myself I will post my score.

Only part of the reason John. :-)

Rick

I shot a 275 and 272 at our state championship a couple weeks ago.

My league average this winter was 271. I shot two experimental arrow rounds and two longbow/wood arrow rounds which brought the average down a little. My "competition" recurve average was 277.

60 arrows so is all of the white 5, first blue ring 4--3-2-1 Are the pictured targets close to accurate size?- 2" white ? Thanks. Never shot target rounds only 3D and even indoor animal rounds. Not too many target archers in my area.>>>----> Ken

Yes, all of the white. The X is for tie breaker. 4-3-2-1 Correct. I think the white is smaller then 2", But maybe only seems smaller LOL!

I haven't measured the white but I'm guessing 3".

I can make it about 1 1/2 to 3 1/2 on my screen. So that 3 1/8 is the actual. Thanks. I can print up some targets but I am sure it will be very humbling. Huge difference in a 3 arrow group and 60 arrows. That is more than I shoot in a day. LoL>>>----> Ken

I can make it about 1 1/2 to 3 1/2 on my screen. So that 3 1/8 is the actual. Thanks. I can print up some targets but I am sure it will be very humbling. Huge difference in a 3 arrow group and 60 arrows. That is more than I shoot in a day. LoL>>>----> Ken

The white spot is 8cm or 3.14"

I thought I would post the top seven averages from our winter league. All of the averages are over 10 weeks so it is a good representation of our scores. All of us shoot no sights most off the shelf a few plungers. I fell in the middle of the pack. This is not my favorite Archery game to play but it gives us something to to do during the long northern NY winter. Shooter 1 - 259 Shooter 2 - 252.2 Shooter 3 - 239.9 Shooter 4 - 233.1 My score with a bow that shot a buck and doe this past season. Shooter 5 - 232.9 Shooter 6 - 222.5 Shooter 7 - 204 I don’t know how it compares with other groups but we have a lot of fun. Also I should say that Shooter 3 is my wife and Cynthia got me. Our # 1 & 2 shooters are a husband and wife as well.

Still shooting lefty, slowing getting it. Shot a 250 today. I still have an occasional wild arrow, shot a 20 with a zero today! Left handed still feels weird but if I focus on getting everything and me all lined up they go in. About the time I’m able to back to right hand I might not want too!!

P.S. MR, Demmer. You are not human anymore,,,,shooting a 298?????? Most of the compounders I shoot with can’t do that. I was estatic shooting a 287 now....Guess it’s like Ford trucks ad’s. “We didn’t move the bar we are the bar” You know as long as I’m breathing though I’m still coming for you. You’ve been my target for a number of years but you keep shrinking the damn 10 ring!!, Quit it!! Arrowchucker out.

jldumas77, that is awesome. I bet you are having fun! I could not agree more about the long winters, I do it for the same reason.

Thanks for the kind words. We also use the time to practice, work on form and the such. There may also be some general ribbing that goes on. And I am blessed that my wife shoots with me. We have also got my parents shooting in the league so it is a real family time for us.

Well shot a 249 at league tonight. Beat my previous best by 5 points. I would be more excited, but I lost concentration on second to last end and shot a 16 !!! I dropped 4 points right there. Maybe break 250 next week.

jidumas77, great family outing.

"And I am blessed that my wife shoots with me. We have also got my parents shooting in the league so it is a real family time for us."

IMO that's the best a person can ever ask for - to share their hobby with their family.

Limbwalker well said.

I should clarify, I said I dropped 4 points shooting a 16 when really you could say I dropped 9 points. The reason, my lowest end before that was a 20, so dropped 4 points by comparison. Man I wanted to break 250.

Well I've only shot a few of these rounds with a 60" 45@30 recurve, my best is a 280 and the rest of them are scattered in the 270's. I should be getting a 25" Spig 650 club riser today so I'm hoping to improve my shooting some!

Here’s mine scores second from top. BobLee 3 pieces longbow 46@28 Sbd string and 2016 @29 with 125 up front

LongbowLogan, Wow that makes you one of the best in the Country, Congrats!

Back in 2012 at the Kegley Open I shot a 287. Bare bow, 47# longbow.

LA is talking bogus again! No proof of his exploit.

Joe

only shot a 187 last Thursday Frisker, but I shoot at more than 6 yards also. Someone's got to keep this average business down. I look at it as lots of opportunity for improvement. Maybe if I shot more than once a week, it would help.

I've only shot once this year. However, when I'm ready to start shooting with my new Bear TD, I plan to blow that bullseye right out of the target!

Joe

301

I hear you.

Frisky... Most of us old guys will be dead and gone before you get up enough nerve to shoot that junky new bow. I didn't appreciate that "bogus" remark about my 300 score. I still have my 2012 score card. If I knew how to post pictures I would show you. I shot a 141 on Friday and a 146 on Saturday. Even you can add the two scores together and come up with 287. I might add I was shooting a B50 string and GT carbons, bare shafts with 500 grains up front. It is what it is so deal with it.

I smell a bogus cheat! If I didn't have a huge cat on my lap, pestering me to get off the web, I'd have more to say.

Joe

With my indoor Barebow I average 278-281. With my hunting bow I average 260. Need to work on the hunting bow some more :)

got a 223 tonight. Happy with that, still working on gap shooting. Do not want to go to three under. Might add some more tip weight though.

Wow, wannaelk with that average, you are one of the few (but growing number) archers in the whole USA that can shoot a barebow that expertly, CONGRATS!!!

grizzly, that's fine shooting.

Is it just me?

All I know is I'm going to a 420 tournament tomorrow. First for me, I have only shot at league, so guess I will report on how many shooter's beat my score. If this thread is any indication, maybe I should stay home LOL.

Don't stay home and if you shoot multiple bows, bring the one you shoot best with you. Good luck.

Thanks, if able I will compete.

If any one wants a printable Vegas sized one spot (it's just the 4, 5 X section of the 300 round target), message me.

It is official size and fits on a standard piece of paper.

So I shot a 263 at the 420 tournament Sat. Not great, but not terrible. The MI State record for silver seniors is 310, don't know what it is for senior bare bow class.

So on that 420 target the X ring is a 7 only if you don't touch the line the line around it is 6, I couldn't hardly believe a line is an entire scoring ring. Anyway the rest of the white is a 5. Unless you are really on a 7 is a unicorn, I shot two 7 in the two practice rounds, and only three more for the entire game. I shot two 6's the rest were 5 and 4. Interesting. It was not my best shooting, but fun anyway.

I have to decided to focus on the 300 round and give up trying to hunt. So I measured out a course and have shot it 3 days in a row. First day 62 inch Hoyt Satori #35 182. Second day same bow 165. Today I switched to my Hoyt Excel with #32 SF longs and got a 188. I see fatigue is going to be a problem even at #32, and focus also. Too many wild shots into the 1 ring because of lack of focus.

I just shoot instintively and do not gap shoot.

I love the indoor round, something addictive about that little white (or yellow on the world archery face)!

It took me a long time to break 200. By that point I had already killed 3 deer and 1 turkey with my bow. My best thus far is 210 8x

I tried to shoot a spot with my selfbow and wood arrows a couple of days ago, I was beyond awful. I guess my days of shooting a good 300 round are long gone.

My poor performance did make want to practice and get better. I shot my last indoor 300 round in the 80s, it's been a while. At almost 71 I can tell age has taken its toll.

Actually, Lancaster is an altogether different beast. You shoot the FITA round, BUT if you hit the tiny X circle it's scored 11 vs. 10, so you can score higher there than anywhere.

Shot my first 300 round this morning. Not in competition, but in my backyard. I know it’s not the same. I just wanted a benchmark to see improvement. I’ve been shooting the best I ever have lately.

Tougher than I thought it would be!

228 with 4 Xs.

Wow....some crazy good shooters posting here.

228 is a good start, probably the toughest mental game in Archery and takes time to build confidence, take your time between shots, normally last 2 arrows are where the most errors happen.

Not been well last couple of months so taking it easy with my shooting, want to try as have new riser and interested to see some scores.

Shot my first 300 of the season with new Gillo GQ riser, scored 285, I'm very happy with this Riser, gives quite a soft and forgiving shot.

I'm Stringwalking 39# OTF so that score is achievable for a decent Barebow. anything in the 280 range during practice I'm happy with and a low 290 is upper ceiling of my practice scores which I've only done a few times, 285 normally takes a few weeks to reach, so a really good start to the season and that score would normally give me something between 275 and 280 in competition. I think with this riser and some work I can bring my average up in competition.

In winter league we shoot the target that Kustom Kodiak posted above.We score the white a 10,then 9,8,7,6,. We shoot our hunting bows. 30 total shots.Three shots at a time.I have no idea who made the rules ,but that is what we shoot.If you can keep 30 shots in a 6 and 1/14 inch circle at 20 yds. which is the 9 ring you shoot a 270. Nine shooters, and no one yet has shot a 270 average for the year,but some of us are shooting the high 260,s for average.I don,t know if that makes us average shooters or above shooters ,or below average shooters ,but those are the true facts.

The Custom Kodiak picture it shows a 20 yards NFAA target face and is counted 5 (white) down to 1. A 300 round to this target face is 60 arrows shot in packages of 5.

Have not shoot a 300 round since the 70's. Best score 270, shot with a 42# tiger cat.

Very possible to go 280 and up using a short bow if you have enough mass and a simple aim method using my releases...with no finger pinch, a full out tournament bow isn't much more accurate. The mass is so important, you have to hold dead on thru the shot.

I forgot about this thread, I did break 250 during league last winter, in fact, I shot a 254. Not bad for an old half crippled guy.

My best has been a 262 with hunting gear.

My money is on Vabowman.

Steve that is impressive.

Shot a PB on the WA18m 274, new bow honeymoon syndrome I think.

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