I'm trying to get a new bow set up for hunting. I've always used traditional "wood look" carbon arrows. I've kinda limited myself to those and I'm wanting to open my mind to any of those ugly black arrows compound looking arrows...ha. Anyway, I'm going to probably cut the arrow to 28 1/2" and run 225gr up front. My bow is a 52# at 27 which is just about my DL.

What do you guys run and why do you like them? I don't really care for the hassle of wood arrows, so let's leave them out of this discussion. Thanks guys!

Kind of in the middle between spines. 400 Easton Axis should work, but may be a touch stiff, in which case the 500s would work. If your bow is to center cut with a thin strike plate or past center, go with the 400s. If it's cut proud of center, go with the 500s.

For aluminum,

Easton 1820's depending on the bow. That tip weight is excessive, and not really necessary with the 1820 due to the physical weight of the arrow.

The reasons re that they are readily available, they are durable, and they are reasonably priced.

They aren't trendy, but they work as well as or better than anything.

I like victory vforce carbons, I try to use as much point weight as I can while staying in the 10 gpp ballpark

Right now my set up 29" 400 spine vforce with 250 grains up front. out of a 51# bow

For your weight of bow I use a 1916 or a 2016, depending on the tune. They would have Eskitlite's up front. I also made some 1820's recently like fdp.

Cheap,tough,and easy to find components for gold tip warriors.only thing they are a little light in the gpi dept.Did I mention cheap dont hurt as bad when you lose/bogger one up either lol....

Wood,

shoot with cheap ol aluminums at 3-D and such but my good woods with ACE Standards are my hunting rig

Sorry Gator 211; just skimmed your post and thought asking what I use

sorry

to answer your question I agree with gdp ; the 1820 or 2016 would be my choice

with the carbon I would go with the 500 and shorten and consider a lighter head weight ? 145-175

thanks guys!

Easton FMJ Autumn Orange!! 470 spine

Woodies forever! ;^)

I never worried about what they look like, only how they shoot. I use aluminum since the weight is already there and you don't need crazy heavy tips. I would opt personally for a 28 1/2" 2016 with 145 tips. If you want 200 grain out front, then a 2018. As for carbons, I'll let those guys help you out.

My Howatt Hunter hits about exactly the same specs at my DL; bare-shaft testing has led me to settle on 28” BOP 2016s with 125 up front (B-50 string).

You can shoot Legacy shafts if you like wood-grain graphics.

They come in around 8-9 GPP; plenty for deer hunting, and flat enough for most 3D courses (IMO)... Especially these days...

2016...bare shaft is 10.0 grains per inch.

30" shaft will be...300 grains.

Add 20 grains app for feathers and nock/glue, a 20 gr insert, and 145 grain tip...you have 485 grains. That's 9.3 grains per pound for a 52# bow/draw.

You may be in the 1916 aluminum arrow and I would give that a try.

I'd like to leave carbon arrows out of the sport entirely.

Carbon Express Heritage are the toughest carbons I've ever owned. They have a nice fake wood pattern.

Really surprised no one has asked "How deep your shelf is cut" and "String material type" as those are major factors in determining spine.

And I'll add this, A whole lot less trouble with wood! Bob

Wood!

George -

A niggling difference, and maybe none at all if different shaft alloys have different densities, but my 1916 Tributes are stamped “10.0 GPI”...

And they fly GREAT out of my #55@28” RER LB when cut to 28” VON-BOP and with 125 up front (@ my DL). If anything, they’re still a hair stiff (they’ll kick a little if my back tension is poor), but I’d bet that a recurve cut deeper in the shelf would be hard-pressed to prove it.

Which is why I shoot 2016s from my #55@28” recurves... arguably still a bit stiff, but a huge improvement from the logs that I used to try to feed it (2018-2215 and even 2117s from time to time...

Pretty sure that any Momentum advantage that the 2018s may have over the 2016s is lost due to sub-optimal flight....

Yes, you are right. 2016 is 10.6 gpi. 1916 ... 10 gpi, 1816 gpi ... 9.6 gpi. My bad. Add another 18 grains to the above 2016 arrow weight.

OK, so that reinforces why I’ve taken the trouble to match an 1816 to the #50@28” LB, a 1916 to the #55@28” LB, and a 2016 to the #55@28” recurves...

Spine-wise, I can fake it with a single shaft size, but the changes in GPI help keep my velocities that much higher (less fletching required) and more consistent from one bow to the next...

More importantly, the better tuned I am, the fewer excuses I can come up with for poor shooting.

I shoot about the same poundage and draw length as you 53# @ 27. I have been using FMJ, in 500,400 and 340...they all work fine depending on how long I cut the arrows and how heavy of a front end I go with and which bow I am shooting. Hope this helps.

I use full length Beman ICS Hunter shafts, three grains per inch 3 Rivers weight tubes, 125 grain points, and three five inch feathers over a 7" cap wrap. I swap out the Beman nock for Gold Tip nocks which fit the stock strings that Dan Toelke ships with his bows. The arrows weight 525 grains +/-. I can get these to bareshaft perfectly with all my Toelke bows in the 45-47# draw weight range. I usually only need a few string twists to correct for a slightly stiff or weak shaft. It is nice to buy only one shaft size for my five Toelke bows. I am sure if I switched bow makers or lower/higher draw weights, I would need to do more cutting or switch to another spine.

tapered cedars

Easton Axis Traditional arrows. I like them because they are tough as nails and I like the small diameter.

Aluminum in 1916, 2016 and 2018.

GATOR?? Sounds like You will have to experiment to see what Your bow likes best at Your usual hunting ranges. Go slowly before You go whole hawg. BLESSED BE! BATMAN

I’m shooting 5mm Fmj 400’s at 30.5” with 200 gr head and 50 gr insert. I’m shooting 52@28. I also have some of 470 6mm fmj’s with a gr 200 head and cut to 30 that fly real nice as well.

Shurwood shafts or birch. Wood is all I have ever used.

"What do you guys run and why do you like them?"

Didn't you ask about what kind of ugly black arrows?

Gator, Are you asking for a spine suggestion? Didn't sound like it. What do you guys run???

I've been meaning to start a thread on this sort of thing. You have aluminum spine. Lots from 1813/1716 on the low side to 2419 on the high. I don't want to count everything in between, but enough to take me a while.

Then with carbons in general you .600, .500 and .400. Plus not very popular .340 and rally stiff .300. That's five and aluminum probably has 25ish.

Look at ACC shafts. They have 15 from .1500 to .300. It's has carbon and aluminum which may be a problem. They can bend and I'll be the first to say they're not as durable as a straight carbon. But my testing shows they don't have a seam like a lot of the cheaper carbons. They're pretty much spine 360 degrees. Or as about as good as a shaft can get without breaking he bank.

Plus they've been around for years. I don't like changing arrows. I've probably shot them for 15 years???

Bowmania

I was asking what carbon arrows everyone hunts with. Guess I didnt word it well. I have been limiting myself to the wood look carbons but I want to try something different. I keep seeing FMJs and I have been wondering about those. I can tune the arrows so not really asking for spine suggestions....more so best hunting arrows in everyone's opinions. Thanks for all the suggestions guys!

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