Seems like there are a lot of ideas on what TP is and how to deal with it. It is not something that can be easily explained in a post.

With the constant stream of posts on TP thought it would be good to have a thread that gives someone information on who to contact to get training or proven information on how to help.

The intention of this thread is to not argue about what it is or how to address it. But to give people options on what proven techniques are out there that address it. Maybe post a link to that persons website etc.

By proven technique I mean someone or a group that is actively offering training to address TP and has a proven record in helping others.

I'll start Joel Turner - shotiq.com

Kisik Lee Olympic coach - https://youtu.be/Y_XYQ76K5a4

Joel Turner is the best I know. He is always studying and evolving his technique to help with TP.

Master's of the Barebow CDs, particularly no.3 is a good one.

Dealing with TP requires some retraining of the subconscious, which requires a methodical shooting sequence. Different techniques/instructors work for different people, as subsequent posts will illustrate.

Guys coach on what they think the TP issue is to them. I was fortunate to know Tim Strickland and I live close to Randy Ulmer. He's helped me more then anyone has and I'm back competing again in ASA. I'm not cured, just understand about control now and shot process.

Right now, I think Joel Turners variious methods is a good start to help deal with it. His methods, to my knowledge won't "cure" it, but he'll teach you how to funtion around/bypass it.

If you want to take the time, put in the work and "cure" the darn stuff, Rod Jenkins and Len Cardinale would be the folks I'd recommend.

I know others have fought the tp fight. I don't know for sure but I think several have commented that there is no cure but it is possible to learn to control it/ function around/ bypass it.. as Jim and others have spoken about.

If something has worked for you share it with others. Often what works for one may not be the answer for someone else.

If there were a way of creating a perminate database of step by step directions that different folks have used that worked for them.. It would be a valuable asset for people looking for help.

Chris

Please all let's not argue over whose process is best. Let's just list options and links for those that have a proven training or class.

Small booklet, Hitting ‘Em Like Howard Hill, by John Schultz helped me. The part about blank bale shooting working on form especially helped. For a period of time (two weeks) I shot with my eyes closed to come to complete draw, anchor, and then release. Helped me a lot with my “epileptic “ release TP. Your mileage may vary...

You're gonna hate this, but shooting a compound with a back tension release helps a lot with it when I shoot a stick bow. Using a clicker helps you as well, you gotta hit full draw before you can do anything. Working on form and shooting with eyes closed helps, and shooting by yourself helps. Learn shot process and follow it each and every shot. Work close to the target.

Joel Turner can get you fixed up!

With over 30 years of target panic struggles nothing/no one has helped as much as Joel Turner!

I work as a clinical psychotherapist and I’m familiar with conscious/subconscious aspects of mental function. John Turner’s method engages the sensory part of the brain, the emotional part and engages the conscious thinking parts to override a self protective natural reflex that human bodies have to protect against physical shock. It’s definitely good stuff!

I have also incorporated my mindful meditation practice into my shot sequence, which I find essential in working through my TP.

J.

"He is always studying and evolving his technique to help with TP."

That puts me off a little bit. There is this German golfer, Langer, who was a stud on the PGA tour, but had a lot of problems with the yipps their version of TP. He wrote a whole book on how he cured himself after his first two bouts, and then he crashed and burned again. It actually isn't that complicated, and no doubt new stuff is being learned all the time, but there are also lots of people who seem set on a loosing path.

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Without a doubt I would look at Len Cardinal, he has it down. I wouldn't look at Masters of the Bare Bow 3, that tape has a ton of problems in it. That series is always interesting (I am only up to 4), but it fundamentally lacks a clue.

The best general archery instruction is in the Robin Hood vids, but you have to scratch around and sorta know what you are trying to compile. I got my eureka moment from them when I realize that Jay Barrs, Randy Ulmer, and Howard Hill all had the same fundamentals and not all the other guys on the series were the same, well none actually.

The Len TP Video is solid, but it is basically a VHS era video that captures his lecture using posters on an easel. And that is fine with me, but you have to have the kind of temperament where the lack of state of the art graphics and personalities doesn't bring your uptake to a complete halt. Technically, this is instruction from before Trad archery was a thing. But then that is the point. We had the solutions a long time ago. People who think the solutions are new may be a little behind the curve.

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Another fun thing, if you have the interest, is to look at how sports like Position shooting, golf, etc... deal with similar issues. Golf in particular had some massive misconceptions on putting, at least up till around 2002, when I stopped studying the subject after I was hit by a plane, and haven't competed in anything since.

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