Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Anchor and string blur

Messages posted to thread:
longbeauxman 08-Mar-18
Flash 08-Mar-18
Jim Casto Jr 08-Mar-18
fdp 08-Mar-18
longbeauxman 08-Mar-18
Rick Barbee 08-Mar-18
Rotten: 08-Mar-18
2 bears 08-Mar-18
Therifleman 09-Mar-18
Rick Barbee 09-Mar-18
2 bears 09-Mar-18
Babysaph 10-Mar-18
2 bears 10-Mar-18
longbowguy 10-Mar-18
Woods Walker 10-Mar-18
2 bears 11-Mar-18
zetabow 11-Mar-18
DanaC 11-Mar-18
Jim Casto Jr 11-Mar-18
fdp 11-Mar-18
longbeauxman 11-Mar-18
JustSomeDude 11-Mar-18
longbeauxman 11-Mar-18
From: longbeauxman
Date: 08-Mar-18




Now that hunting season is officially over I am doing some experimenting. Wondering, from those who shoot this way, what is your anchor and how do you incorporate the string blur.

From: Flash
Date: 08-Mar-18




Middle finger behind eye tooth,string blur left-hand side of riser.

From: Jim Casto Jr
Date: 08-Mar-18




I've only been using the string blur for about 2 years or less. It took care of a lot of R/L issues. My blur is on the right side of the riser when shooting right-handed; on the left side when shooting lefty.

From: fdp
Date: 08-Mar-18




I don't pay attention to where the string blur is in relation to the riser because I don't care.. I like the string blur on the vertical center line of the target. And aligned on one side or the other of the arrow.

The only anchor I've found that I can't do that with is an anchor up high on the cheek bone.

You can put the string blur virtually any where you want to by moving your head.

Also, you can shoot with the target inside the string blur between the string and the riser. And yes, I know, people say that won't work. But it will, and has, for eons. That's what Elmer lots of the old guys called shooting through the "bow window".

From: longbeauxman
Date: 08-Mar-18




Very good information. I started today playing around with the blur on outer edge of the riser, Im a lefty, and anchoring on my cheek bone behind the nose. Using a fixed crawl with it I find it very consistent. Going to take some getting use to but I like it. Jim, I tried to message you on the subject before but I get a 404 error message.

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 08-Mar-18

Rick Barbee's embedded Photo



I anchor with index finger on tooth in corner of mouth, thumb locked behind jaw with middle knuckle of thumb on point of jaw, and nose on my upper outside hen fletch.

I shoot cock fletch in for a variety of reasons. One of those reasons is, using the upper outside hen fletch allows me to use the nose on the fletch part of my anchor while still maintaining a relatively head up head position.

How I aim using string blur is shown in the image.

Rick

From: Rotten:
Date: 08-Mar-18




I anchor with the middle knuckle of my thumb, on the back of my jaw bone. I guess I never paid that much attention to string blur. Too busy concentrating on a spot.

From: 2 bears
Date: 08-Mar-18




Rick,way back when, I shot a cp I looked inside the string at very short sight pins. Can't get close to that with recurves and longbows. I think the difference is the mec. release. With the arrow on the center of the string,you see it to the side like that? Is the string on the centerline of the bow,edge of the sight window or?? Thanks. >>>----> Ken

From: Therifleman
Date: 09-Mar-18




I find myself using the string- blur when things arent going good--- usually the culprit for me is an arrow that is not tuned correctly. When i am shooting well tuned arrows i don't think about blur at all. I use a light grip and let the draw bring the bow into alignment. This works well for me. I agree that using the syring blur is one additional tool to ensure consistent alignment. Once it is ingrained i believe it will become another automatic/ instinctive part of your shot.

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 09-Mar-18




Ken, I set up to shoot the arrow slightly on the weak side, and slightly outside of center.

As Shawn (HedgeHunter) mentioned, for hunting I do not want the string blur to obscure my vision of the intended target, especially in low light conditions.

Since, I only shoot my hunting rig for everything, this is how I always do it.

Rick

From: 2 bears
Date: 09-Mar-18




Thanks I got it now. I made the mistake of trying to hunt with a peep sight ages ago. In low light the target disappeared.>>-->Ken

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 10-Mar-18




What is string blur?

From: 2 bears
Date: 10-Mar-18




You see the string in your peripheral vision. It is so close to the eye it blurs. Shift your eyes and look for it. Once you see where it is you will start to notice it. >>>----> Ken

From: longbowguy
Date: 10-Mar-18




For the benefit of passers-by: most of us traditional archers draw somewhere to the side of the face and string blur is either not visible or so far out as to not be useful. Olympic archers draw to the chin and the nose and it is useful to them. Some others hereabout draw somewhere to the front of the face and are aware of string blur.

For most traditional archery it is not useful and best ignored. - lbg

From: Woods Walker
Date: 10-Mar-18




What string? I don't see any string when I shoot.

From: 2 bears
Date: 11-Mar-18




I anchor index finger at the corner of my mouth and have no trouble seeing it but I don't use it much.It is like the arrow, folks claim to never see but both are right in front of your eye?????? I don't know I have heard of tunnel vision so maybe it is not the same for everyone. Some very good shooters on the LW use it. Soooo to each his own. Can you see your bow hand,how about your bow? It must take super concentration to see nothing but the spot. I wonder how peeps work or sight pins they may be invisible too. >>>--->Ken

From: zetabow
Date: 11-Mar-18




I never used string blur with Longbow as I had a slight cant on the bow. I did fine without it.

With the Recurve Held vertical I run the blur down the right edge of the arrow (Stringwalking) I found the arrow tip is easier to aim this way also, I just see it without consciously having to look for it i.e my mind is less cluttered and can focus better on where I want the arrow to hit.

From: DanaC
Date: 11-Mar-18




"What is string blur?"

Pretty much what it sounds like. Since your eye can only focus on a limited range certain distance,* focusing on either the point of the arrow or the target makes the string seem blurry - IF you look at it at all.

Keeping that blurry line in a consistent 'place' relative to the target or the riser can help reduce side-to-side variation on target.

* what a photographer would refer to as 'depth of focus'

From: Jim Casto Jr
Date: 11-Mar-18




He's playing with you DanaC. He knew what it was back in 2016, in this thread.

http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/TF/lw/thread2.cfm? threadid=279153&category=88#4006714

June 22, 2016, babysaph wrote: "Ok. What the heck is string blur? The more I think I know about shooting a bow the more I realize how little I know." June 22, 2016, babysaph wrote: "Yes. But I have never thought about it. I guess I may see it but I don't think about it. I understand where you set the string blur I just never heard of it. I don't want to think about it. If my arrows are spined correctly my left and right is ok. :)"

From: fdp
Date: 11-Mar-18




lbg.....that's your opinion, and really poor overall advice.

"Traditional" archers shoot in more than one way. Not everybody cants the bow, and ducks their head to shoot. So, to say that the string blur is best ignored, is silly.

You are refencing mostly the "Hill" style?method, and to some degree that's true. However, there were traditional archers long before Hill, who shot straight up, with a vertical bow, and I guarantee you they saw the string blur. Art Young, Maurice Thompson, and on and on. No way on earth that Art Young anchored like he did and couldn't see the string blur.

String blur and whether you see it or not is based more than anything on your head position. And whether you cant the bow or not you can see it if you wwant to.

From: longbeauxman
Date: 11-Mar-18




This place kills me sometimes. That’s why I send more PMs than public posts. You always get the guys with reading comprehension problems.

From: JustSomeDude
Date: 11-Mar-18




Longbeauxman,

As you experiment with it, make sure you test AT DIFFERENT RANGES. I spent a bunch of time with it at 20 yards only to find out it was only right at 20 yards :) oops.

If I recall correctly, I think Demmer uses the outside of his riser PLUS his plunger is adjusted way out. It looks crazy. But in the end it is about how your face/eyea line up to the shot.

I have been liking the alignment Rick Barbee posted. I find it easy to pick up different bows and shoot the same way.

From: longbeauxman
Date: 11-Mar-18




Dude, it’s taking getting used to. I’m using the side of my riser at same trying not to rip my nose from my face :) . Trying a different anchor point now.





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