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Carbon Arrows-What do you shoot and why?

Messages posted to thread:
Bucbuster 07-Mar-18
GUTPILE PA 07-Mar-18
Flash 07-Mar-18
reddogge 07-Mar-18
kstout 07-Mar-18
sqrlgtr 07-Mar-18
1/2miledrag 07-Mar-18
camodave 07-Mar-18
Rick Barbee 07-Mar-18
scienceguy 07-Mar-18
Ollie 07-Mar-18
Birdy 07-Mar-18
Uncle Lijiah 07-Mar-18
sqrlgtr 07-Mar-18
grouseshooter002 07-Mar-18
DanaC 07-Mar-18
Car54 07-Mar-18
Buglmin 07-Mar-18
Jack Whitmrie jr 07-Mar-18
olddogrib 07-Mar-18
Longtrad 07-Mar-18
longshot 07-Mar-18
hawkeye in PA 07-Mar-18
Orion 07-Mar-18
Tomas de Gato 07-Mar-18
Bucbuster 07-Mar-18
papajud 08-Mar-18
BATMAN 08-Mar-18
Charlie Rehor 08-Mar-18
Drewster 08-Mar-18
Desperado 08-Mar-18
Muddyboots 08-Mar-18
Recarga 08-Mar-18
Shoe 08-Mar-18
76aggie 08-Mar-18
limbwalker 08-Mar-18
Turkeyman 08-Mar-18
Pintail 08-Mar-18
eddie c 08-Mar-18
joe vt 08-Mar-18
yorktown5 08-Mar-18
DanaC 08-Mar-18
Babbling Bob 08-Mar-18
Therifleman 09-Mar-18
BigJim 09-Mar-18
From: Bucbuster
Date: 07-Mar-18




Hi Guys & Gals,

Looking for people to share what brand you shoot and why. I am looking to purchase a bunch and would like to hear from you and your experiences. The arrows I buy will be used for hunting whitetails and target practice. Thanks and I look forward to your input!

From: GUTPILE PA
Date: 07-Mar-18




Gold tip blems from Big Jim's

From: Flash
Date: 07-Mar-18




Hard to beat gold tip traditional shafts for a good all around carbon.

From: reddogge
Date: 07-Mar-18




Gold Tip blems from Big Jim. Tough, reasonable, good hunting and 3-D arrows.

From: kstout
Date: 07-Mar-18




Gold Tip Traditional classic XT. 500 spine shafts are 10.2GPI. They come standard with 75 grn stainless inserts. I just made some up, cut the shafts to 30 inches, added 145 grain points. Came up with total arrow weight of 560 grains. They fly real nice from my BW PLX, 47# @ 28". They are skinnier than normal GT shafts, but thicker walled. The only thing I don't like are the nocks, they are too small.

From: sqrlgtr
Date: 07-Mar-18




Gold tip traditionals.I also use their weight system to tune with.I can really tell the difference when I get them bare shafts flying with the fletched arrows.Better accuracy and penetration.Btw u can use the weight with any standerd insert thats threaded all the way through.

From: 1/2miledrag
Date: 07-Mar-18




What = Gold Tip Traditionals

Why = because they work well for me, both hunting and target

From: camodave
Date: 07-Mar-18




Widowmaker Smash

DDave

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 07-Mar-18




Widowmaker Smash

X2

Spine consistently all the way around, very tight weight tolerance, and are tough. Very Tough.

Wish there was a US dealer for them.

Rick

From: scienceguy
Date: 07-Mar-18




Gold tips are good, but I mostly use Beman ICS Bowhunter shafts. They are a little cheaper than Gold Tips, and they are a little heavier. If you shoot a Toelke bow, Gold Tip nocks fit the stock string Dan builds really well. So, I use ICS shafts with Gold Tip nocks!

From: Ollie Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 07-Mar-18




I like the Easton Axis trad carbon shafts. Have also shot the Trad Only shafts (made by Easton) which a bit wider diameter than the Easton Axis.

From: Birdy
Date: 07-Mar-18




I have found gold tips to have a lot of spine variance, I often wonder why they are so popular.

From: Uncle Lijiah
Date: 07-Mar-18




I chose Ferguson Heavy Hunter by Gold Tip as my first set of carbon arrows. Why - I switched over from aluminum and wanted a similar weight arrow with the same length and point weight.

From: sqrlgtr
Date: 07-Mar-18




Birdy,just curious how you checked for spine variance? I have heard this alot.Not trying to start an argument just trying to learn.No doubt they are alot of good shafts to choose from out there.

From: grouseshooter002 Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 07-Mar-18




I shoot Easton Lightspeed 3D shafts and really doubt that anyone can show me a better carbon shaft. I shoot full length shafts and only change point weight when going from one bow to another. Check them out.

Grouse

From: DanaC
Date: 07-Mar-18




Been fooling around with Victory V-Force 245's. The entry level (.006 straightness) are just $60 a dozen for shafts. Compatible with all .244 inserts and nocks (S or Super size.)

Fly well.

From: Car54 Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 07-Mar-18




Been shooting the Easton Axis(trads), and will continue to do so. Tough skinny arrows, I like'em.

From: Buglmin
Date: 07-Mar-18




Element Archery Fire and Ice with Firenock titanium half out inserts. I've used a lot of shafts and nothing compares to Element Archery's arrows. Cross weave technology that makes them super tough, perfect consistant spine and weight match. Arrows are just flat out tough. Element Archery was the one to post a video of them standing in the middle of two shafts, then gold Tip did it two weeks ago. Now Element is driving over their arrows and then shooting them. I watched them shoot a Storm into a brick wall and all they did was loosen the insert.

From: Jack Whitmrie jr
Date: 07-Mar-18




I've tried several and only 2 brands will hold stump shooting and other abuse without footing them I like Easton shafts with inserts that have a shoulder on them. My favorite is the EPICS followed by the AFTERMATHS.

Beman shafts also do well but I like the nocks on the EASTON shafts better.

Gold tips , Carbon express and a couple of others have failed miserably splitting on nock and insert ends.

From: olddogrib
Date: 07-Mar-18




Gold Tip blems and Beman ICS line.

From: Longtrad
Date: 07-Mar-18




Victory vforce, cheap, light gpi, have the spine alignment marked on the shaft, and they work great for me.

From: longshot
Date: 07-Mar-18




Black Eagle Outlaws and Carnivores.

From: hawkeye in PA
Date: 07-Mar-18




Beman center shot for me, been very durable. I tried GT's first.

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 07-Mar-18




I shoot Easton Axis, the black ones, not those with the wood grain finish. They're skinny, tough and I like the the hidden insert techonology. That being said, most carbon arrows are pretty good quality. Just a matter of picking something you like.

From: Tomas de Gato
Date: 07-Mar-18




I've enjoyed shooting most every arrow set up possible. From micro lights with heavy FOC to standard GT Traditionals... I'm currently experiencing the bliss of well made wood arrows. I'm blown away at the performance and aesthetics.

From: Bucbuster
Date: 07-Mar-18




Thank you for all the feedback!

From: papajud
Date: 08-Mar-18




Too bad they quit making the Beman MFX's... they were sweet shooting and heavy enough

Now I shoot GT trad classic xt's. They are pretty good, but not MFX's

From: BATMAN Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Mar-18




My Curiosity? what about Grizzly Stiks????

From: Charlie Rehor
Date: 08-Mar-18




Carbon Express “Heritage”! Way cool!

From: Drewster
Date: 08-Mar-18




GT Traditional shafts....good price, good quality

From: Desperado
Date: 08-Mar-18




I agree 100% with Ollie !!!!!

From: Muddyboots
Date: 08-Mar-18




Carbon Express Heritage, GT Traditional and Arrow Dynamics wwod grain. All work well for me. Arrow Dynamics seem to fly well with a wide range of bows and draw weights.

From: Recarga
Date: 08-Mar-18




I got on a pinch for arrows and the only ones they had locally were Gold Tip Warrior, my local archery shop had them for 5.00 ea already fletched.

I am what you might say ( designated arrow hunter ) because I suck and miss a lot. this warrior are TOUGH as their name.

I dont really see a big difference from the high priced goldtip

From: Shoe
Date: 08-Mar-18




X2 Arrow Dynamics. I have been happy with these tapered carbons for many years. As Muddyboots said, they fly good with various tip weights, and various bows.

From: 76aggie
Date: 08-Mar-18




Another plug for Carbon Express Heritage. Never had any issues with them at all.

From: limbwalker
Date: 08-Mar-18




Brand isn't really that important these days. There are quite a few carbons that all work well for hunting purposes.

Figure out your budget and what features are important to you, and a few arrows will fall into that range.

Personally, I've shot 3-Rivers "Traditional Only" arrows for quite some time, and shot them as Beman ICS Classics before they were rebranded to the 3-Rivers brand. They are my "light" hunting arrow.

CX Heritage arrows are my "heavy" hunting arrow, and they work well too.

I've also shot some rather generic Easton carbons from my longbow that shoot exceptionally well. Got them on clearance at a local Academy for a price I couldn't lay off of, so I bought them.

I'd say don't overthink it. Just have fun.

From: Turkeyman
Date: 08-Mar-18




I tried the Easton Autumn Orange FMJ 390's and so far I like them.

From: Pintail
Date: 08-Mar-18




I started shooting goldtips in the late 90's out of my longbow. I love everything about them. Easy to tune, great performance and they outlast aluminum.

From: eddie c
Date: 08-Mar-18




i'm no expert shooter by any means. I used to have 3 or 4 different brands in my quiver, mostly buying carbons on sell or clearance at the end of season, stripping the vanes and fletching with feathers. one day when just shooting I noticed that each brand was grouping together inside the 'group'. I decided then I needed to stick with one brand. when I did that, my grouping was tighter. I settled on GT blems.

From: joe vt
Date: 08-Mar-18




CE Heritage. I have experienced this shaft to be super tough and fly great out of my bows. I went carbon a long time ago because I got tired of bent aluminum shafts. I like to stump shoot a lot and I like to take hard between saplings and trees shots.

From: yorktown5
Date: 08-Mar-18




Had a conversation with Stu Miller awhile back...to be clear A. He tested all shafts for consistency batch to batch and variance from published flex ratings. and B. He was clear that he would not disparage any brand.....but.

He DID mention which ones impressed him with the most consistent specifications (Beman and Carbon Express). The Gold Tip trads didn't get Stu's mention.

My own experience is that even the economy shafts (.006 straightness) is just fine. I mean, come on guys shsfts so consistent that they never vary by more than six thousandths of an inch?

I can detect ZERO practical accuracy difference (hunting and 3D) in any of the brands I have used with the greatest experience about equal twixt Beman ICS Hunters or Bowhunters, GT Trads or Carbon Express Heritage.

Notably, the only performance difference is the CE Heritage have proven the most durable, but the Beman's consistency, overall availability and price make them the ones I default to when using Stu's calculator to recommend arrows for my bow-fix customers.

All that said, for the last two 3D seasons, my local shop has a promo "house brand" mostly sold to youth compounders that I have ID'd as 500 shaft Victory brand that I have been using exclusively (sold vein fletched with inserts for $5, I strip them and feather fletch, using them for ALL my bows in the 45# weight zone...best group accuracy ever.

Rick

From: DanaC
Date: 08-Mar-18




Rick, save yourself the bother of stripping off the vanes ;-)

http://www.lancasterarchery.com/victory-vforce-245-sport-v6-arrow-shaft.html

Same price.

From: Babbling Bob Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Mar-18




Easton Axis Traditionals.

'Bout all I want to spend.

Look better than the others I can afford.

Shoot better than cheaper shafts I have shot in the past.

Never been disappointed with Easton shafts.

From: Therifleman
Date: 09-Mar-18




CE Predator iis in .800 spine---why---There seems to be limited options in this spine range and these arrows tune very well to my PIKA 40@29:" which I draw to 26.5" So far they seem to be great arrows.

CE Heritage 75s---Why---great tough arrow that comes in .675 spine. .600s are too stiff for my 42#@28 Whip unless I put a boat anchor on the front. The Heritages are great arrows.

When I used to wear my big boy pants and shot 50#s I really liked the beman MFX 600s. I hear the new beman centershots are very close to them and with Big Jim's prices on the centershots I believe that's what I would buy if I needed arrows in those spine ranges.

Gold tip blems 1535---great stumping and 3d arrows. Put a 2117 footing on them and they are very tough roving arrows.

From: BigJim Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 09-Mar-18
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Beaman Centershots! especially now that we have them for $69.99 per dz. very tough and consistant as are the Axis.

Some time this year when they run out of there existing stock, I will also have the centershot and Axis trads in 33"s all there spines across the board.

Thanks, BigJim





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