From: Curtiss Cardinal
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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I haven't seen a post or magazine article by him in years. Is he ok?
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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He's into motorcycles now.
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From: Wild Bill
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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Jerry Gowins, photographer. I always liked his articles in Traditional Bowhunter.
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From: indianalongbowshoote
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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Was wondering about Ferret not too long ago, enjoyed his posts also.
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From: indianalongbowshoote
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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We are talking about Mickey Lotz correct? He hasn't been on here since 2003
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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Wild Bill- Ferret is Mickey Lotz,Jerry Gowins is Weasel he's around still shooting animals and pictures.Hes mon FB.
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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I have a Mickey Lotz selfbow with the infamous "floppy rest"
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From: PEARL DRUMS
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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Mickey checked in on Primitive Archer about 4 years ago, don't believe he has been on since. I know his simple board bow directions helped a lot of people get started making real bows :)
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From: tonto59
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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I still have his simple board bow directions saved on my computer. I always enjoyed his posts as well. Back when they were having the "White wood Wars" Very interesting and sometimes funny posts.
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From: BowAholic
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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funny thing...I contacted Mickey just the other day and asked him about attending MoJam 20 this July. If you want to visit with the Ferret he says he will be attending MoJam. This 2oth anniversary will be great with him, JD Jones, John Scifres, and many more of the old crew attending.
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From: Eric Krewson
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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I remember Micky posting that he had become deathly allergic to osage dust and had to stop building bows.
After 20 years of breathing the stuff I am up to having to wear a cartridge respirator to make bows which detracts from the overall experience.
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From: badger
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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I met Mickey at the Tennessee Classic. Cool guy. That osage dust has driven a lot of us to change our ways. I work strictly with draw knife and scraper anymore, no sanders or bandsaws, it really eliminates the dust issue.
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From: BowAholic
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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Steve and Eric...you two should try to make MoJam this year... :)
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From: MStyles
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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Good guy.
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From: ButchMo
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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Micky is a really good guy. He would always bring hotdogs from Hell to Mojam. Sure miss seeing him. Will go again this year for sure.
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From: Arcus Pater
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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Years ago I reached out to Mickey prior to a trip to Ohio, asking for suggestions on places to hunt after the business portion of the trip was finished.
He met me and my then 12 yr old son at a local diner. He gave us a hand drawn map to a local area where saw deer & turkey. He also gave my son a small knapped flint arrowhead.
I miss reading his posts and articles. Great ambassador of our sport.
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From: BowAholic
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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I sent a link to this thread to Mickey this morning... :) Butch... looking forward to seeing you my friend!
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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Arcus I'm betting you had Skyline Cincinnati chili
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From: Cuzen Jeff
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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Go to Rideohio.org, in General Discussion there is a thread called 2018....the ride continues. He post in that thread almost daily. He has been a roll the past few years to see how many days he can ride his motorcycle in a year, I think last year he rode just over 20,000 miles.
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From: George Tsoukalas
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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I met Mickey at Mojam 2003 along with a host of other great people. Jawge
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From: BowAholic
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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Jawge and Shawn... hope to see you both there this year...2003 was 15 years ago Jawge... I think it's about time to return. :) The 2003 MoJam shirt is one of my all time favorites.
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From: Curtiss Cardinal
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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You will never guess who gave those frankenfurters the name "hotdogs from Hell."
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From: ButchMo
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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Looking forward to seeing everyone there. Curtiss, was it Brother Randy?
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From: The Ferret
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Date: 15-Feb-18 |
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Geezalou, all you old guys are still hanging around? lol
I haven't been here since 2003? Gads. That's 15 years.
Yes, Dianne and I plan on going to Mojam this year.Thanks to Bob for the heads up. Will be great to see some of the old faces again. May bring a bunch of stuff I need to sell. Primitive bow/arrow building type stuff. Doesn't look like my son is going to be interested in continuing the family tradition.
I retired from my day job 5 years ago and since then my wife and I have toured 42 of the lower 48 states, 2 Canada Provinces and 5 countries in Europe by motorcycle. Hitting 2 more states not previously ridden in this June. Last year I rode 338 days and 29,105 miles. I try and ride some every day. At a soon to be 68 (gasp) don't know how many years I have left to ride..or hunt. I still hunt BTW, still out there with wood bows and arrows, I just don't shoot anything anymore. Slain a bunch of critters in my life, don't feel the need to kill any more, but I still like being out there.
Anyhow, y'all are too kind with the nice things you've said about me and it's appreciated.
See you in the woods,
Mickey
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From: MStyles
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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Man, it’s good to see you post again Mickey. Glad you’re still out there. Hope all is well.
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From: BowAholic
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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well there ya go Curtiss! I love threads like this that bring out good friends and great memories... thank you.
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From: The Ferret
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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Good times!
BTW it was Curtis who named them "Hot Dogs from Hell"
It was brother Randy that mixed them up in the pots and gave the super hot ones to guys that wanted mild ones and vice versa. Good night that was funny.Hey if I bring some this year, will someone have a way to cook them?
MStyles, all is mostly good. Thanks for asking. Some medical issues that come along later in life for most folks, but they hasn't stopped me from doing the things I love. I can see in the pics I used to have some color in my beard. That is gone lol. Not sure I can squat down to look at a piece of Osage anymore. Have to hold it at chest level (although my chest level would be squatting for some of you guys). Definitely can't get up and down off the floor easily so that rules out camping. Since Dianne will be coming this year, the temps should be reasonable. Ahh Missouri in July. What was the name of that hotel with the air conditioning and pool we used to stay at?
Will Timo or Wingnut & family be there? Been forever.
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From: ButchMo
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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Micky, Really good to see you on here and looking forward to seeing you and Diane again. I still camp next to Loyd so if you need a place to sit in the shade, you are always welcome.
Bob, sorry I didn't respond. Looking to forward to see you too.
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From: MStyles
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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Mickey, the color in the beard, the getting up from a squat made me laugh. I still get down to do something from a squat or more like kneeling, it’s just getting back up that is difficult. I should tell you I put a “Ferret Floppy Rest” on a Hickory selfbow I made. It worked very with my POC’s but I tend to shoot heavy hickory 23/64” arrows now, so if you have a new idea, I’m all ears. BTW, Hearing of your motorcycle touring sounds like so much fun. Anyway, it’s good to see you’re still out there.
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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I texted Timo sounds like he's coming
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From: BowAholic
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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that's awesome Mike! I was hoping some of the other guys would hear about the 29th and come. It would be nice if you could make it back as well... I wish I could talk my friend Mike Hutchison into it as well.
Does anyone know how to contact Dano?
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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Dano is on Facebook as is Van/Tx
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From: BowAholic
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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heck yes! I will see if I can contact them... are you coming Mike?
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From: BowAholic
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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well crap... I only use FB to follow my Trad Bowhunters of Arkansas club... I'm not much good at it so I can't find TIMO or DANO on there? Any idea who the young man in the middle of the pic I posted is..? John Scifres and Will Stephan are two of the others...I don't know how to contact Will either. What about that crazy Little Tree ?
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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I don't think Timo is on FB I just texted him and asked.
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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What are the dates?
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From: BowAholic
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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July 19-22...
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From: The Ferret
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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Darren is the clean shaven one with the road kill T, bearded fella I can't remember.
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From: Salvador 06
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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This one will be memorable, as was the 10th. Lots of the old gang are coming.
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From: ranger 3
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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Mickey, what kind motorcycle do you ride?
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From: Hawkeye
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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Those... were... the... days, my friend, we thought they'd ne-ver end...!
Seeing those names and handsome(?) faces takes me back to some of the most reasured times of my life. Oh, that Dean were still around to bring some smoked chubs to share as he "mooched" his way from campfire to campfire. And Jerry Pierce, just being there and being... Jerry!
It's awfully good to hear from you, Mickey! I've been away from Cloverdale as life and health got in the way, but with the promises of seeing some of you fine gents again, I may have to see if I can drag my sorry carcass across the miles to see all y'all.
Daryl
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From: yard dog
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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Mickey and Jawge helped me get started in selfbows..... Shot with Mickey at farmland with my son and buddies.... Great guy !!!
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From: yard dog
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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The first stave bow I made was a BL stave from Jawge, which I had to make into a kids bow for my son, with a Floppy rest inspired by Mickey, and my bow got to shoot that bow with mickey at Farmland... My son was a little fella then, He is 25 now.... lol
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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Hawkeye are you going?
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From: Hawkeye
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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Nolz,
After seeing this thread, that is my intent.
My 93 year old mother has been living with us and recovering after a life-threatening bout with flu and pneumonia that started two days after Christmas. So far, I had to cancel a trip to Milbury (OUCH!), have canceled my reservations to see some dear friends at PBS, and will have to step aside from attending one of Barry Wensel's final Boot Camps. It's a privilege to have the opportunity to be a caregiver for Mom, but it came at a very difficult time for a string of special things I was hoping to do. Sometimes, life gets in the way...
I hope we will have been able to determine the next steps that need to take place well before July. If so, I hope to soak in all that Cloverdale is, once again. Life is short, good friends are few. I think we need to spend time with them whenever there is the opportunity!
Daryl
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From: ButchMo
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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Sal, will you be able to make it?
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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Hope so Daryl best wishes
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From: Hawkeye
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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You making the long trip up, Mike???
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From: The Ferret
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Date: 16-Feb-18 |
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several things
Ranger my current touring bike is a Honda ST1300. My current local rider is a Honda CB1100.
Daryl good to see you are still around. Look forward to seeing you again
Now, reading Daryl's post about Dean no longer being around threw me. "I thought, where is he?" Had to google him and am shocked and saddened to read of his passing. I had no idea. Wish someone had thought to tell me. Dean and I were good friends, spent a lot of time together at his house, in his workshop, shooting around this back yard, attending big archery events, hunting deer and rabbits.He was always trying to feed me something weird lol (like Chubs). My wife has been to his house, my grand daughter as well. My Torges bow "Amish Perfection" hangs in a rack downstairs with some other very special bows. Great guy and an artist with wood. I will miss him. A lot. I also lost my longtime hunting buddy Maggie McGee last year (the guy who nicknamed me the Ferret) and was at his bedside every week right up until the end. Guess this is what happens when we reach a certain age but gosh it's hard. Don't know what to think other than we will all get together again one of these days at a special campfire in the sky. So long Dean
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From: BowAholic
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Date: 17-Feb-18 |
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I look over the mojam pictures that I have and see many friends that have passed...which is all the more reason to get together one more time. :) Curtiss, thanks for starting this thread.
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From: groundhawg
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Date: 17-Feb-18 |
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I just wanted to get on this thread and say Hi to you Mickey and Diane too.. Been hunting a parcel right down in your neck of the woods near Beechmont and 275. I still talk to Hackbow on a regular basis. Glad to hear all is well with you.. We all miss you two, take care... Scott Colvin AKA Groundhawg
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From: BowAholic
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Date: 17-Feb-18 |
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the marshall Bowhunters started a MOJAM Facebook page. It's liked to their club FB page. It will be a great place for us to keep up with who is coming and when.
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From: Jim Keller
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Date: 17-Feb-18 |
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Wow, I thought the ferret was an imaginary guy in the dumb bunch( I think that's what Maggie called you guys). I always enjoyed his stories. I'm sorry for your loss of a hunting buddy. Jim
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From: horseapple
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Date: 17-Feb-18 |
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Great to see/hear from you my friend. Sure sad how time goes by. Wingnut isn't able to make the 20th mojam, I believe trashwood/Rusty is on the list. I'll be there Lord willing. Will never forget the time me and wingnut stayed the night with you and Dianne. Looking forward to visiting.
JD
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From: Curtiss Cardinal
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Date: 18-Feb-18 |
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I am glad I started this thread too. Glad to see the mischevious Ferret is still kicking. I think I am one of the very few people to ask for seconds after beating my first " hotdog from Hell." Mickey, motorcycles and bows are not mutually exclusive activities, you know.
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From: The Ferret
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Date: 18-Feb-18 |
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Jim yep, the Dumb Bunch and it was fitting. Many of us were there with John at the end. Even though we are all old and long past our prime, we were talking about another hunt if he made it out of hospice, but he just couldn't beat the big C. Terrible disease.
JD good to see you man. You got the prettiest bow I ever made. As perfect a piece of Osage as I ever saw. Hope it served you well.
Curtis, you till chef-ing? Sometimes a change is called for. I think I just got to the burned out stage and had to take a break. Turned into along break lol. I still play with my bows, just don't make them anymore. I still shoot pretty well.
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From: The Ferret
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Date: 18-Feb-18 |
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BTW Butch still have my moccasins you made me. They are awesome. My feet grew (couldn't have been my legs doggone it) so they no longer fit, but I will keep them forever. Dianne still has her wood wizard on the mantle too. Cherished keepsakes.
Will be great to see you and Lloyd.
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From: George Tsoukalas
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Date: 18-Feb-18 |
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Mickey, it is good to see yo back on the old LW. Jawge
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From: hawkeye in PA
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Date: 18-Feb-18 |
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I'm another thats glad to see the Ferret back on the wall. Always enjoyed your posts, but never realized you were the "real" Ferret until this thread. Maggie's writings were the only hunting stories my wife ever read, she just couldn't understand what I was laughing at. Jeff
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From: The Ferret
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Date: 18-Feb-18 |
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Thanks Jawge, always admired your work and enjoyed meeting you at Mojam way back when.
Thanks Hawkeye, Maggie had a different way of looking at the world. Funniest guy I ever met. We had a grand time together for about 25 years.
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From: ButchMo
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Date: 18-Feb-18 |
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Mickey, I'm glad they hold a space for you two.
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From: Hackbow
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Date: 19-Feb-18 |
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Dang....you look away for a minute and 15 yrs pass by!
Looks like I need to clear a few days on the calendar in July. Mickey, I sent you a PM.
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From: John Scifres
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Date: 19-Feb-18 |
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I'm in. I don't make many bows nowadays but I still love it when I do.
That picture with all of us from way...way...back kind of brings me to tears. Not because I miss you guys but because I look so young. WTF happened to me? My goal is to get into that shape before July. (Although I'm still in shape. Round is a shape...right?)
I am really looking forward to seeing everybody.
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From: foxbo
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Date: 19-Feb-18 |
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It's good to see Mickey back on the LW. We exchanged a few emails years ago pertaining to the Rocky Mt Recurves.
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From: foxbo
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Date: 19-Feb-18 |
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From: foxbo
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Date: 19-Feb-18 |
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That's my ride which I purchased new from the dealership over 36 years ago.
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From: BowAholic
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Date: 19-Feb-18 |
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Darren you guys all need to come! Ed...get on that bad boy bike and come to MoJam! If I didn't have so much crap to carry I would ride my bike again. I have done it twice already.. there's nothing like carrying a 6' piece of prime yew back on a bike for 7 hours... LOL
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From: foxbo
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Date: 20-Feb-18 |
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LOL!
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From: Salvador 06
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Date: 20-Feb-18 |
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And that yew was horizontal on the bike. We're still surprised it made it to Arkansas in one piece.
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From: The Ferret
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Date: 20-Feb-18 |
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Darren got your message and texted you yesterday, but never heard anything back. You get it?
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From: Aeronut
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Date: 20-Feb-18 |
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Nice to see your posts Mickey. I met you and Diane at OJAM several years ago. Looks like this year's MOJAM is going to be a reunion for you guys.
And 4nolz. if you are going to be there it will be nice to finally meet you and shake your hand.
Foxbo, I have an '81 Lowrider I've had for many years.
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From: Hackbow
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Date: 21-Feb-18 |
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Mickey, got it and answered.
Bob, I'll be there. Think you guys may need to show me how to use a drawknife and scraper again.
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 21-Feb-18 |
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can someone post the name of the mojam group page on facebook?
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 21-Feb-18 |
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I found it via Marshall Bow Hunters page
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From: Hackbow
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Date: 21-Feb-18 |
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https://www.facebook.com/MOJAM-900707546777783/? hc_ref=ARS1yWGKlSifMmPFoeB- AXhDtIerfXGRoqmKPZKoun5YgDPFu1LRhT1HnZzx0U_6IWA&fref=nf
Had to find it by going through Marshall Bow Hunters.
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From: BowAholic
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Date: 21-Feb-18 |
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this will be great! I'll hook you up Mike. :) Sal...if there's anything I can do to help you make it just let me know.
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From: 4nolz@work
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Date: 21-Feb-18 |
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It's only 14 hours to Columbia Mo for me.....RonG?
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From: BuzAL
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Date: 21-Feb-18 |
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I'll bring the coyote ham!
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From: BuzAL
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Date: 21-Feb-18 |
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Glad to see you kicking, Mickey.
Did you ride an FZ for a while? Thought I recognized you on another forum.
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From: The Ferret
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Date: 21-Feb-18 |
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Hey BUZ! Yep rode two FZ-1's an 04 which I eventually sold to my son and then I picked up an 01. Those Gen 1 FZ's were great bikes.
Ha Buzz from Alabama is still around. How cool its that?
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From: The Ferret
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Date: 21-Feb-18 |
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BTW is Keith still running Mojam?
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From: ButchMo
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Date: 21-Feb-18 |
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Mickey, don't know for sure but he's always there.
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From: Michael Schwister
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Date: 22-Feb-18 |
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You all are giving me ideas. MOJAM is on my "bucket list", this thread makes me remember once again, and mourn the loss of Dean. I should saddle up the 08 Ultra and make the 14 hour ride in lieu of ETAR the next weekend. Missed ETAR last summer due to cancer treatments. Life is too short, this is something I need to do.
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From: ButchMo
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Date: 22-Feb-18 |
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Hope to see you there Michael.
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From: The Ferret
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Date: 23-Feb-18 |
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when you post up pics can you add names? I remember most but not all.
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From: The Ferret
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Date: 24-Feb-18 |
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Are Doug Rutter, Tim Hamblin and Don Haingray still around?
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