From: Elkpacker1
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Date: 21-Jan-18 |
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Has anybody tried cortazone shots for elbow/shoulder issues.
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From: Burly
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Date: 21-Jan-18 |
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No but I am ready too. My bow arm elbow is killing me.
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From: song dog
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Date: 21-Jan-18 |
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Elkpacker1, I had one a few years ago. After that one time I swore I would never have another. I'll put up with the pain in my elbow and my shoulder. Hurt like you know what.
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From: Skeets
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Date: 21-Jan-18 |
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Must be a difference in who does the shot. I had it done in my shoulder and it didn't hurt a bit. Seek out the best advice from experienced specialists. Most likely those treating sports injuries that work with professional athletes.
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From: song dog
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Date: 21-Jan-18 |
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Good point I think mine may have worked on horses also.
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From: grizz
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Date: 21-Jan-18 |
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Research it. Steroids soften tendons, then tendons snap. Caused me two surgeries (knee and elbow). Elbow didn't work out and now I have to shoot left handed.
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From: Mountain Man
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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Cortazone breaks down muscle,,in my case i opt'd to suck it up and make the muscles stronger,,everyones injury will be different and everyone has a different pain tolerance and i was still a younger man when i busted up my shoulder Doctor thought i was crazy but what do they know ; ) I can tell when rain and cold weather is coming with pin point accuracy but never saw the sence in making my injury weaker for temporary relief Just my two cents
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From: D31
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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I could not raise my right arm high enough to take a sip of coffee.
The surgeon, a man I went to school with wanted to schedule surgery on my shoulder. I asked him to shoot it with cortisone first and lets see what happens.
He shot it with a combination of drugs in one syringe, I don't know the exact combination but it was an anti inflammatory, a local long lasting pain killer and a long lasting lubricant.
I never went back and never got surgery. That was over ten years ago. I came out of his office doing jumping jacks and swinging my arm like a windmill.
Would definetly recommend trying it before surgery.
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From: Tradarcher4fun
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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I partially tore my right rotator cuff. Doctor wanted to cut me open. I asked about getting a shot and the doctor frowned about it. I can’t recall exactly why doctor was not a fan of the shot. I said no to surgery. Stretch bands, light free weights, and shoulder excerises have given me full flexibility and no pain.
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From: strshotx
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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Ask your doctor for advice,when I had elbow pain my doctor recommended use an elbow brace,ice and rest.I got one and it really worked good for me,helped with pain.Then I looked elbow pain online and found PT(physical thereapy) exercises for elbow pain.I did the exercises,wore the elbow brace,ice and rest.My elbow pain went away after a couple of months.I didn't want to get a shot,kinda of a short term fix and the possible side effects from long term use.But get advice from your doctor is my first choice!
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From: George Vernon
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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Yes, cortisone shots can work. Get an opinion from a good orthopedic doctor. And don’t be afraid to try a shot if that is the recommendation. Each Dr will follow a strict protocol on how many shots over a period of time can be safely used.
The Dr will likely start with an X-ray to rule out any bone related structural issues. Then some range of motion tests while checking where and how much pain is present.
My experience says these physicians are pretty good at sorting out issues and using cortisone shots only when they are likely to work and give some real relief to local inflammation.
Family practioners can do the shots, but I think you would be better served going to a bone and joint specialist.
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From: rusty
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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i had one in my shoulder years ago and had a bad reaction to it,made my shoulder much worse , never again
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From: jjs
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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Elbow bow arm , had to have the ulna nerve rewrapped and the dr was considering to do a complete replacement and told him no do to a 15# limitation. Have had cortisone shot in the shoulder bow arm after 2 rotator surgeries, still hunting with a 44# recurve but limit my practice shoots down to dz shoots, the first shot is always the critical shot.
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From: Catsailor
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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I had a cortisone shot in my bow shoulder. The shot was mostly painless and my shoulder felt like new for about 3 months. After 3 months my shoulder hurt more than ever. I talked the orthopedic doctor and convinced him to give me another dose to get me through hunting season. That second shot was very painful and was not very effective. He suggested an MRI, but I held off shooting my bow for a long spell and did some exercises and my shoulder is about 85%. Now my bow elbow gives me pain when I shoot. From threads I’ve read it seems like archers bow arms have more issues than the drawing arm.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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I'll put up with pain before going to Cortazone. That's some bad crap overall for just a temporary relief. I've see the damage it causes to muscle and tendons. Then it will even become ineffective if continued. No thanks.
What's causing the pain? If it's not broken or torn, try a reputable chiropractor.
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From: sir misalots
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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No ,but I need something:( Started with the bow arm but has now went to the other also. May be old age because I have'nt shot a lot lately. I know I abused my joints in early life with work and sports.
But it hurts and isnt fun
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From: reb
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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Try Biofreeze professional. It works for me.
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From: shatto54
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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I recently started having pain in my elbow (bow arm) and had to adjust the manner in which I would draw back. Instead of a high straight back draw I started to draw as the bow came up. It seemed to help. To hard headed to seek "professional" help yet.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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Preston, a lot of elbow pain turns out to be tendonitis. If that is the issue, rest and anti-inflammatory meds can work wonders.
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From: Linecutter
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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First you need to find out what is causing the pain. Is it a bone spur, nerve issue, bursitis, arthritis, and as mentioned tendonitis? Go to an Orthopedic Doctor and have them look at it and see what they say, not your General Doctor. As for all the fear mongering for the steroid shots, you will only have tendon/tissue issues with long time usage. Doctors will only give it 3-4 times a year because they know what he side effects can be. With a severe inflammation it may be the best way to relieve it. DANNY
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From: 76aggie
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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I am certainly not a proponent of cortizone injections. I will say I have had tendonitis in my right elbow a couple of times years ago. After anti-inflamatories etc, I had an injection into the elbow. The shot hurt me more than the pain but after a day or so,the elbow stopped hurting. I have not had a recurrance of tendonitis in my elbow in many years now. I know cortizone can have really bad side effects but sometimes it can really be helpful. Consult your family doctor. We just all play one on Stickbow.
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From: dean
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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I would find a chiropractor trained in the actuator methods, not the bend till it makes noise bone crackers. Hit the high grade supplemts, put the bow down for a while, find a more ergonomic method of shooting. I am 66 years old my normal practice sessions are 300 arrows from March until deer season. I did hurt my elbow this year and my hip. To much of a hurry to be careful taking Escort wheels off of a high shelf to make room to use a step ladder. i found that long holds made the injury worse and that fast fluid shooting made no difference. For a few days after I banged it, I could not even pick my nose. One area archer decided to go from a compound to a 45 pound ILF with sights this year, he aimed every shot for a very long time, just like he did with his heavier compound. He did not make it to deer season, he is scheduled for surgery this month.
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From: Bob Rowlands
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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I had so many cort shots in my shoulders the Doc said "No mas.". They eliminated pain for a couple weeks, but in my case cured nothing. Grinding off acromion, now that DID do something beneficial.
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From: dean
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Date: 22-Jan-18 |
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From: George Vernon
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Date: 23-Jan-18 |
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I’ve had a few cortisone injections for bursitis in my shoulders and hips. Prior to the injection the different Drs have sprayed with injection site with ethyl cholride. This liquid has a very low flash point so it vaporizes quickly when sprayed chilling the skin a bit like having ice applied. But the spray is instant numbing. Never felt pain with the actual needle stick. But sometimes the pressure of the cortisone mixture flowing into the joint produced some mild discomfort for me.
Cortisone is not for joints that have structural issues—things like bone spurs or torn muscles or tendons. It is great for taking care of local inflammation oral meds like ibuprofen can’t help. For me, the relief was felt within a couple of minutes of the injection. And all pain went away after 30 minutes or so.
Certainly can’t speak for Drs, but what I’ve been told the rationale behind a cortisone is twofold. One is to provide relief of pain so the patient can do some movements without discomfort. Second, the relief of pain relaxes the associated muscles to aid in healing the inflamed site. Apparently connected muscles tend to ‘tense’ up to protect the joint, but that often impedes blood flow which delays natural healing etc. Often a bit of physical therapy is prescribed that could not be done without first managing the pain.
I seem to have problems in the Spring when I get too aggressive with projects around the house—cleaning up downed trees, moving gravel, etc. So I aggravate a hip or shoulder, try some oral meds, and keep working. This can make things worse. Every couple of years things get really out of whack and the Dr gives me a cortisone shot. But there is always an exam first to rule out structural damage. In the last ten years this has led to one shoulder reconstruction and one hip reworked to take care of some frayed tendons.
I suspect at my age the 3 year 36,000 mile warranty has expired. What I struggle with is how much pain and discomfort should there be before getting medical help. I don’t think there is an answer that will work for all folks. What I’ve come to understand, for me, is when I cannot do things that define my ‘normal lifestyle’ I need to get help to ‘get back int the game’. Sometimes this can be done with medication. Sometimes physical therapy. Often both. But I also understand some things wear out. Especially if we did not take good care of ourselves in our youth. So knees, hips, shoulders and maybe elbows might need some surgical intervention to return to normal function.
The key in all this is to get input from a good physician. Opinions on this and other sites should be seen as worth what you pay to get them.
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From: Bob Rowlands
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Date: 24-Jan-18 |
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"The key in all this is to get input from a good physician. Opinions on this and other sites should be seen as worth what you pay to get them."
That's the truth.
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From: throwback
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Date: 24-Jan-18 |
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I've probably had as many cortisone injections as some football players. It helps me for a few weeks to a month, then I'm right back where I was. Surgery is the only thing that's going to help me long term, but the cortisone gives me some relief until I have it.
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From: Beendare
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Date: 24-Jan-18 |
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I've been dealing with bad elbows for about 7 years now...righton the verge of surgery.
FYI, I've talked to a few ortho guys, PT's etc- they all reccommend surgery as last option. The elbow is the last frontier. They have knees, shoulders and hips down- elbows are a whole different animal.
Cortisone hasn't helped my elbow....it did help my shoulder
If anyone has had elbow surgery please PM me as to what to expect.
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From: Dsc
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Date: 30-Jan-18 |
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It does work but like others have said it's not good for the body.it never goes away. Ive had probably over my limit of 6 in the left elbow and 8 in the right and right shoulder surgery. Just all worn out.It took the not being able to pick up a cup of coffee and having to switch my bow shooting from right to left to get me to a sports doctor.
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From: longbowbud
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Date: 30-Jan-18 |
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One word, accupuncture. Cortizone is bad juju
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From: Tradmike
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Date: 30-Jan-18 |
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Had a steroid shot in my hip last week. Seems to help some.
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From: rraming
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Date: 30-Jan-18 |
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As long as I don't rest my left arm on door when driving, it never bothers me
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From: Bownut
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Date: 30-Jan-18 |
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I've has my share in various locations including neck, hand, elbow, shoulder and knee over many years. Degenerative arthritis is a well distributed pain. Cortisone injections are one alternative to surgery that works for some and doesn't for others and is more successful in some parts of the body than others. One important thing I recently learned that might help anyone considering an injection. For specific location injections they commonly prescribe an "x-ray guided" shot.An anesthesiologist administers the injecting while looking at at x-ray to pinpoint the spot.While talking with my orthopedic doctor last week he recommended getting an "ultrasound guided" injection as radiation risks is eliminated. If / when I have to get another it will be done via ultrasound. Best of luck for relief of your pain.
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From: TrapperKayak
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Date: 31-Jan-18 |
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Hyperextended my right elbow hanging it over the side of the bed once and falling asleep. It hurt like hell for a long time, and occasionally still does hurt. I cannot ever straighten my arm out to its full length now. slight ben in the elbow and sometimes it 'catches' and hurts and won't extend as far. I say its got tendonitis now. Doc agreed. I never got it treated though. Not messing with any shots, just exercise it in moderation and keep it limber. If it catches, I just keep working it, twisting my arm and extending it until the pain goes away. NO shots here. Some pain is necessary sometimes. It does not hinder my shooting, nor hurt when I do. It does hinder my throwing ability sometimes though which is bothersome.
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From: KodaChuck
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Date: 31-Jan-18 |
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Came across a product called Tissue Rejuvenator made by Hammer Nutrition. Recommended to me by a Spec Warfare guy. Read the reviews by marathon runners and ultra endurance types online and between the recommendation and what I read online, decided to give it a try. My shoulders were killing me and it seemed chronic....the pain never went away. After taking this stuff for a month, I feel way better. WAY BETTER.
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From: Red Dogs
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Date: 31-Jan-18 |
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I've had several cortisone shots over the years in several locations, shoulder and knee. In both cases I went in with extreme pain! Could barely lift my right arm or barely walk. In both cases I was almost as good as new in a day and the effects lasted a long time. In fact the shoulder has never bothered me again. In neither case did the shots hurt AT ALL. I asked the doc about the old story that cortisone shots hurt like hell. He said they shouldn't hurt any more than any other shot, if the person knows what they're doing. He said there is nothing in the cortisone that should hurt at all. In the knee I watched him put the needle in 3 different places and I couldn't even feel it! As others mentioned the effectiveness probably has a lot to do with the underlying issue. Mine must have just been extreme inflammation but it was like a miracle drug for me.
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From: Monte
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Date: 31-Jan-18 |
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Lots of good advice. George Vernon has it right. Bownut's comments about guided injections is also spot on. And George Stout's comment about tendonitis is also on target. Degenerative arthritis and tendonitis in the elbow is very common in us older folks. I can know longer shoot ASL bows (Hill Style) without having a flare up in my elbow regardless of grip, bent arm, arrow weight, etc. However, I do not notice the pain returning in my bow elbow with my Bear Montan's or Black Widow LAG as long as I am shooting arrows over 600 grains. But that is just me.
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From: Phil
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Date: 31-Jan-18 |
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HydroCortizone doesn't alter the underlying pathology is just addresses the activation threshold of neurons sensitive to inflammation
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From: reddogge
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Date: 31-Jan-18 |
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I had a bone spur in my bow elbow and nothing would cure it, not even physical therapy. Extremely painful. But I tore my elbow tendon and when he operated on it he took the bone spur out. If it is a bone spur I think surgery is the only option for relief. They don't seem to go away on their own.
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