Folks, I broke down and decided to test shoot my new Bear TD, as the weather was unseasonably warm here. The bow has not yet been tuned, and I took only 8 or 9 shots and at only 12 yards. I put on safety glasses and just wanted to know if it was shootable. Well, 8 or 9 shots at 12 yards is not enough to come to any conclusions, and it’s not even the Blood Moon yet, but I might now own the greatest bow of them all! Though I wasn’t really trying to aim and didn’t even bother to turn the target face right-side up, all of my arrows hit within a 3 to 4 inch circle. I didn’t pay much attention to that, as I hadn’t warmed up and could barely hit full draw. What amazed me was how fast, smooth and quiet my new bow is! I was shooting 475 grain arrows at 47 pounds, and they were blistering fast! I’ll have to move back to 17 yards on my Blood Moon shoot, to better assess speed, but the bow might be the fastest bow I’ve ever shot! There’s no felt vibration and no finger pinch. It’s, without question, the quietest bow I’ve ever shot, and I haven’t even set it up for quietness! It’s fantastic! I expected a slow, loud, rattly clunker and got the opposite! Milk River Stickman ordered the limbs, and I advised him to let Bear know they were going to the Legend of the North, so they better be good. They obviously listened to him, as Bear limbs are not supposed to perform this well! Again, additional testing will be needed to better assess performance, but I think this will become the Super Bow of Bows! Here’s a pic of a typical 3 shot group at 12 yards. Nothing great, but wait until I tune this baby, get in shape, and start shooting for tight groups!

Joe

Us die hard Bear guys survived Jinkster dabbling in Bear bows I'm sure we can survive you Frisky.And yes-best bow ever.:)

I will send you a pair of Crookedstix-made Rick Barbee string puffs to make it really quiet. I figure it will take the better part of a skein of wool yarn to do the job, but I'm happy to help.

Lol - and it begins.

Or I should say, It continues...

Here we go

Glad you finally got to shoot a good bow. Congratulations

No argument here and I've shot a s&^tload of bows in my time. The first recurve (C riser) to shoot 899 out of 900 points ala Victor Berger in 1969/70 era.

You just may have embarrassed a very fine recurve with that group at12 yards.

So..., let’s hear you say it Joe! A Plain English answer with no fancy nebulous words to this question:

Is your Bear, A riser, Take-Down better than The Holy Grail of Bows, the Drake Hunterflight?

J.

I don't know, Frisky. I don't think you get out much. Every time you get a new/different bow (this is the third that I'm aware of) it's the fastest bow you've ever shot. Me thinks your breadth of experience may be a bit lacking.

Regardless, I tend to agree with 4nolz. Enjoy what those of us in the know have known for a long time.

Gut shot coon.

The question has been raised- Is this new Bear TD better than the Holy Grail of Bows? That will be determined when I move back to 17 yards. However, the answer will likely be yes. I don't think the Grail will be able to outshoot this bow. Is it better than the Bow of Bows, the Deathmaster? That's difficult to say, as the two bows remind me of each other in the way they shoot. Even the limb tips are similar. I do think it might be better than the Deathmaster too. This will also have to be determined after 17 yards of shooting is complete.

Joe

The proof will be at 35-40 yards. Forget that 20 yard stuff, at that range any well tuned bow will bang arrows against each other.

At first glance, I thought he was shooting at a cat target!

Sure hope Frisky never shoots a real bow. I am afraid he would be speechless. ;^) >>>----> Ken

I am glad the hear that Joe is happy with his new bow, a few of us tried to nicely break it to him that had yet to own a really good bow. I would advise Joe to stick with this one, he would be a troubled boy if he could or would adopt his form and strength to shoot one my moderate weight longbows. I don't want to build anymore, JD has a long list of anxious customers and Nate limits his list to how much time he has. I would feel guilty asking either gentleman to make me another bow, when so many know where true bows of bows are made, and they deserve their chance to get the real dream bow.

There's no way a longbow will ever be the Super Bow of Bows, because the performance isn't there. The only way to improve performance is to get away from the true D style longbow, and that's not in keeping with the longbow spirit.

Joe

Glad your new bow is impressing you...so far. As far as pure speed goes, you should never, ever shoot a Saluki hybrid, seriously, don’t.

Speed is only part of the equation. What good would a fast car be if it had poor handling? You wouldn't drive it. It'd be worthless. A true Bow of Bows has to have it all. It has to be fast. It has to be smooth drawing. It has to be free of hand shock and finger pinch. It has to hit where you're looking. It has to be whisper quiet. Workmanship has to be on top of perfection. If one ingredient is missing, it's not a candidate for the Bow of Bows.

Joe

I don't know, the car metaphor is a little shaky. Really quick bad handling street/strip cars are tons of fun to drive and definitely not worthless...just sayin'. :)

I can see why so many people believe I consider my bows to be the best bows just because they're mine. This is not the case. My Deathmaster was so great, a fella mortgaged the farm to get it back. I praised my Drake for its turquoise-powered flight limbs, and Crookedstix confirmed the superiority of turquoise limbs. My bow has actual flight limbs on it, unlike those on the FireDrake. This new Bear should be no different from any of the others, yet it's unbelievably fast, smooth and quiet. How did that happen? It probably has to do with my reputation as the greatest bowhunter the northland has produced. There's no way Bear was going to give me doggy limbs. So, it's no coincidence I have the best bows.

Joe

If the wool string puffs that I offered aren't your style, then you might prefer to use fur...and if so you're in luck. The gods provided me with this fine fat squirrel yesterday, and there's enough hair on that tail to quiet any string.

Come to think of it...how are you fixed for a sidewall and shelf? What could be quieter than squirrel fur? Well, maybe chinchilla, but we don't have them here in Maine.

Send me your specs and I'll start the skinning.

Nice, getting Black Widow groups...can't complain about that..!

You jinxed the Vikings by not waiting until the blood moon to try out your new bow. Now, the rest of us loyal Viking fans must suffer because someone couldn't wait. Personally I'm surprised the NFL hasn't contacted Frisky to put on a shooting expo with his new super bow at have time for the super bowl. "Super bow Super bowl". Has a nice ring to it. Nybubba

Squirrel fur rest, side plate (belly fur) and silencers, add some of those red osier arrows, and the new bow could get some vittles. The safety glasses add a unique touch to the rig. Times a wastin'.....there's bunnies hopping around out there.

Frisky, now you went and done it, you put down the longbows, I just finished one that will compare if not out do your recurve. This group is the last seven arrows of a 94 arrow string in a row.

I forgot to mention these were at 20 yards with a 68" Hickory longbow that I carved out of a stave. It is 52lbs at 28"

This photo is my first shot group at 15 yards yesterday. You can claim your bow is the best, but don't go putting down longbows until you have tried a good one.

Yeah Ron but is that at 12 or 17 yrds? You know Joe will find an angle to question the validity of long bow performance.

Nybubba

Getting old is hard on my memory, I also need to mention there is no arrow rest, just the bare shelf and no nock locator all shot from estimating the angle of the arrow on the shelf.

Frisky it looks like your arrows are carbon, isn't your bow capable of shooting woods.?

Frisky if you plan to shoot at 17 yards better get a bigger target lol them 12 yard groups are pitiful and who needs a warm up to shoot 47 pounds??

Bear Kodiak take downs really are amazingly good. I bought one just to have, and prefer longbows, and especially my homemade osage selfbows. Still, I can pickup the Kodiak T/D at any time and take it hunting, or shoot consistant, lethal shots arrow after arrow. Like the thing is automatic. Way too heavy is my only complaint (compared to a quiverless narrow osage selfbow).

It's a Black widow duh.

I am a Bear fan...but...you can keep them take down models everyone praises so much. LoL! Having to clamp the limbs on the risers with those ugly metal things makes it the ultimate frankin bow. :)

Frisky, Send me the Deathmaster! LoL!

(moderators please don't give out my home address to the takedown fans that may now be contacting you to get it ) :)

You can't own the greatest bow in the world until I build you one. As of now, you just have another bow.

You can get a bear anywhere, but not a genuine Pearl Drums Self-bow.

Frisky, you are still in the buy a factory that everyone else has bow, you haven't progressed into the realm of the true bow that native Americans depended on for survival. Cut and painstakingly hand carved and scraped from a piece of a tree that mother nature spent many years of growing through every kind of harsh weather and castastrophies to produce the finest properties that are required in the true finest bows that are made.

So There, na na na nana!!!!

Frisky is still playing the school yard game-“I have it-you don’t”. Everybody had a football but his was the “best’ ‘cause it was his. Maybe he just has not acquired the skills necessary to be really good with a self or longbow. From the looks of that group, could very well be.......

Someone has pirated Frisky's handle. Greatest bow of them all..Bear TD..what?? Sounds like the Ole Payolla scam to me.

Great... Over 600 post on three different threads about Frisky's new bow. No wonder I feel insignificant. I now have a special interest in this bow. Frisky, I offered an apology a while back and you never really accepted it but I hope we're ok. Going to follow this thread closely. I may have questions later. I really hope it works out to be the Super Bow.

Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!

That's not such a bad group for Frisky's first time with his new bow...considering its 56" length. I expect he'll tighten it up with practice and tuning, provided he gets some help from MT. I can't imagine, though, that MT would want to do that--just means taking more of his time to recover and gut Frisky's deer and find his arrows for him later on.

I think it's interesting folks here always resort to bogus groups and garbage bows (even to roadkill) in vain attempts to refute me. It would be better to listen and learn from someone who is lightyears ahead of all others in the pursuit of the best bow. Once you realize I know what I'm talking about, you too will advance to a higher level.

Joe

When you reach the world wide celebrity status the Joe Frisk has attained, you don't go to the money, the money comes to you. Minnesota is a strange state. Even up at the true north end, people have funny notions. At an outfitter in Ely, they had plain t shirts for nearly twice the price of the same thing that any department store would sell them for, but if you got the same shirt but with their outfitting ad logo on it, the price doubled. So I asked, "This T-shirt is, holy crap, $15, but you will pay me $30 to walk around and advertise for you when I wear this other shirt? That's quite a deal." I was wrong. They think so highly of themselves, that they actually think that people should pay them to advertise for them. I know what ya'll are thinkin', there's a country song in there somewhere.

How do you know I didn't shoot that squirrel?!!

Higher Level..last time I heard that Mr. Jones was serving Kool- Aide.

I Luv Bear Takedowns BUT !!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG you guys.

Is that a bale of wacky weed in those burlap bags that Frisky is shooting arrows into? That would explain a lot. TLM

Possibly a "Special Delivery" from Crookedstix Kerry and P-did after their trip to Colorado last fall? Yes, that WOULD explain a few things--broken windows, lights, etc. out in Frisky Joe's garage...

Crookedstix asks us how we know he didn't shoot that squirrel. Has he ever gotten anything with a bow? No.

Joe

I'm starting to believe in ya Frisky. Nice bow.

My recurves are all real vintage bows, longbows are an eclectic mix, but i never mentioned any of my bows, but my 6 year old grandson can group about that well at such a shortened range. You might do well to have a bayonet lug installed so you can affix one of your many grail blades to the bow. Just so you can finish off the roadkill’s and say you used your new grail of bows on something.. no arrow required ——-grin-all in fun, and to keep your most entertaining thread alive

I have shot a few Drakes over the years and I have owned a few Bear takedowns. Seriously, all kidding aside, a Bear takedown is a superior bow to a Drake. It does matter which one shoots faster, you must hit what you are shooting at for the speed to count. I happen to be better at hitting what I am shooting at with very good longbows.

Yet another Vogue magazine thread

What if we set up an "exchange program" for Jinks and Frisky. They could be like foster parents for each others bows for six months out of the year and then send them back and take in the new chilluns!

I enjoy reading all the jealous comments, but I really can't wait until the deer opener! This bow is going to be fantastic! You have to realize other bowyers lack the resources of Bear Archery. That's why their products are inferior. Old Fred knew how to get the necessary resources to change archery, for the better, forever!

Joe

Sat. night I was gripping because Frisky hadn't shot the new bow yet. My wife said. " Sugar Babe, think about it. Given your age and all of your ailments you know you don't have long to play this bow and arrow game. Why don't you give in and get one of those kit bows like that famous Frisky guy got. You know you like to put things together and if you don't like it you can put it with all of the other stuff you don't like." I explained how his had special limbs made exclusively for him so I would not be able to get them. She responded. " Well, I'm sure you can get the regular factory limbs. Get one, you might like it." I really don't know what to do.

For sheer studliness, 64-67 Bear Grizzly. Super Kodiak is merely a Grizzly with tits. The glass on a Super K doesn't wrap tip to tip on the back like on a Grizz. So, by my definition, it isn't as stout or studly. lol

All this Bear love from a guy who stood by the Drake for so long. Guess if it sounds like a duck.. It might be a frisk. & For shame Frisky. for shooting vanes off the Bear. Lets see that arrow rest and vane orientation. OH, wait. You probably did not pay attention to that either. :D - K, so IF I could get vanes to really shoot where I wanted them and have the flight I really want off the shelf then I would have a wet weather set of arrows ready. As for now I just use soggy Feathers. Carry On.

-Bones

I fletched a half dozen carbons with feathers for shooting off the Bear rug rest. They were great!

Joe

I know people in Cherokee, I hunt near there and my son use to live in Cherokee. "Love 'em and leave ' em Joe", they say. Best ever one week and cannot remember the name the next. I am very disturbed over this.

Huh, lol? Anyway, I just measured my Bear's string. It's 53 inches. It fits perfect, and that's unusual on a 56" recurve, so I measured the bow around the curves on the belly and got 56.5" So, this new bow has an extra half inch of power!

Joe

Lost Arrow,

I wouldn't hurry to emulate Frisky just yet. Wait until an objective reviewer, like Pdiddly or I, has had a chance to put this new bow of Frisky's to the real test.

In all likelihood we will be dragging him out West with us this fall, and we will have a chance to compare this so-called "Super Bow" to one or more of the true classics that we hunt with. Our report on his bow's failure will be unbiased and impartial, and THEN you can decide whether or not to repeat his folly.

Thanks Crookedstix for your advice. I really can't see me jumping into the mechanical archery world but my wife has a point. I'm getting kinda wadded up over this stuff.

I'll tell you who you don't want to emulate. Pdiddly and Crookedstix are probably the two worst hunters in the forum! They had a chance to prove their greatness and failed, while I, the Mighty Legend of the North, came through with flying colors!

The Legend

Edcor- Dump that pile of junk you shoot and get a Bear TD!

Is Frisky allowed to travel that far from Austin?

The Legend can got out west only if, MT go so he can do all the work.

What tools are needed to replace a broken latch? Just wondering if you can change one while on a hunt.

I judge a bow by if it can make blood.

That's not a group.

This is a group:)

Shot with this Bear C riser.

Shot with this Bear C riser.

Top that, Frisky:)

Joe

I know you like to have fun with your posts and you get the ole leatherwall pop'n,,thats for sure

Referring to yourself in thrid party is kinda,,,,ah,,,,,funky,,,for reasons of profanity rules i figute thats a good word for it Now why are you loose'n vained arrows and not fletched

I use to have a B handle Bear, I used it as a back up to my Schulz longbow, it didn't take up much space in the car. Kind of a cumbersome thing, that's why it was a back up bow. Then one year on a hunt east of here, I got to shoot the straightest yew billet longbow that I have ever seen. It was 45 years old and could be shot left handed and right handed. I offered to trade my Bear for it, they laughed at me and said 'absolutely not'. For some reason, I could shoot that bow better than any bow that I have ever had the pleasure. I made myself a dual shooter pignut, it turned out really good. I still have that pignut, but the Bear takedown is long gone. On one hand I understand why people can like them, but on the other hand, I can accurately shoot two arrows in the time it takes to shoot one arrow with the cumbersome Bear takedown. If I can shoot a rabbit in the head in one second or less with a longbow and it takes someone else to shoot that same rabbit in 5 seconds, there are two obvious points. 1. That bunny will be long gone before the 5 second shot gets there. 2. My bow is faster than yours by 4 seconds.

Roy, I know u can shoot groups like that with yur tri lams.

No wait, the super shooting yew was 65 years old at the time.

I will show you the best of the best shortly!

Larry, tell him... Roy needs to take a break from those bamboo backed bows and make himself a fine Yew English longbow.

RC- That's a very nice 4 yard group! Keep up the good work, and you'll be back to 10 yards in a year or two!

Joe

I don't know about the greatest bow EVER, but the Bear TD is my favorite recurve and while haven't owned them all I have owned most of the fancy customs over the past 20 years.

How do you adjust the tiller on that thing. I forgot.

You don't adjust tiller any more than you'd adjust tiller on another bow. They are factory tillered. Mine is tillered to perfection.

Joe

10 yards Joe..

Heck, my 10 yard targets are way better grouped than that! However, I use smaller diameter arrows.

joe

LOL... Good job then:)

Roy jokes around but I have to admit that the old coot knows how to shoot that Bear bow.

Frisky, glad to see you've stepped up to a real bow. :)

Yes, this new bow is a beauty and might be the finest Bear TD ever made!

Joe

Howdy Mr. Phil...

Enough of these hand emplaced groups you guys are showing. If those bows and your skills were up to par, much of the feather would be messed up at 10 yards. Funky angles, perfect feathers=hand emplaced groups, wink;)

Really?:)

Skip busted y'all!

We'll just see how well Frisky's Superbow handles a little turquoise kryptonite this fall.

Blackstick, thanks for your response. I guess the latches will not be an issue. Frisky, are you still confident with your choice of the "A" riser and no. 1 limbs? I have a 27" draw.

That's a fine group, Frisky, out of a legendary bow. Jawge

Thanks Jawge. You obviously know class when you see it.

LA- The A riser with #1 limbs will be perfect for your anemic draw length. It will give you some punch!

Crookedstix- I'm sure my new Super Bow will have no trouble out-performing MY turquoise kryptonite this fall.

Joe

Thanks Frisky. I really appreciated the little wise guy anemic remark.

LA- You're welcome. I always try to be helpful.

Joe

All of this 'struttin' reminds me the the crap that kids did in the late 60s and early 70s. I was tempted to offer a title challenge to Joe where we each pick half of the targets. Winner gets the other guys bow. We use to do title drag races. The winner gets the title and car of the loser. I had a Baracuda that could pull wheelies. In one day I won three cars that would not get 5 mpg that i didn't really want. So I sold them their cars back for $50. No, I think Joe should keep his bow, he would not take me on anyway, all my my targets would aerials.

I can almost imagine it now. Frisky holding his new bow on the back page of the archery magazine in a Bear recurve advertisement.

I just know that he will have more to offer than a gut shot coon pretty soon!

If Fred could take a Cape Buffalo with his TD prototype, imagine what I can do with my bow after over 50 years of development! My particular bow is the final, perfected unit!

Joe

"If Fred could take a Cape Buffalo with his TD prototype, imagine what I can do with my bow after over 50 years of development!"

"You could take FB"? Luckily he is in the sky now, otherwise he would be scared by your bow.

FRISKY, why do you want to tune at 17 yards, when you kill all your deer at 6? If you shoot out to 17, you might not be able to see the cars go by.I hope you get all your arrows to quit flying in circles before deer season. You are a TRUE, Fred Bear_wanna be.

I believe that shows good planning. A gut shot at 17 yards just might very well be a hard shot at 6 yards.

My driveway allows me to shoot out to 17 yards and still be under cover. My shots are nearly all under 13 yards, so 17 yards is plenty far. I do prefer to shoot out to 25-30 yards, so I might put a bag up in a woodlot a mile from my place. This TD bow and a few arrows can be placed in a bag and carried to the lot unnoticed. The woodlot is bordered on one side by a river and the other by an 8 foot high berm. Nobody can see me shooting back there!

Joe

The blizzard ended my shooting for a while. It says that we had 8.5", I imagine the snow drift that buried my 4" high targets, doesn't count.

We had 5.5" of wet snow. Just enough to put a damper on things.

Joe

Ahhhh. The back of a magazine. Like Charles Atlas, Frisky got sand kicked in his face, went home, bought (no, WON) this Bear TD, and now he's back at the beach flexing his muscles. And, selling GRIT newspapers, that's where the bow came from..HA-HA, so many memories. When not shooting, Frisky takes on All-Comers in a Jousting Tournament, weilding his Holy Grail. He may not shoot that well, but believe me, when he comes barreling down the street on his Schwinn Apple Crate, that bow is all the weapon he says it is. He has knocked more than one 9 yr old on his A**!!:))

Frisky could improve on his group-if indeed it was not hand emplaced-by viewing Clay’s latest offering on back tension. His group indicates a bit of collapsing. No sense having one of a million Bear take downs if it cannot be properly employed.

My best friend Jim was a die hard. He rarely quit anything he ever started. Where most of us guys saw the futility in many things, he did not. I had to admire this type of dedication for it was the stuff that men of vision were made of. To begin this tale, I'll throw in some elements of danger - chilling cold, snarling dogs, empty doorbells - and the promise of a future that was never to come.

the grit newspaper"I know how we can make some real money," cried Jim over the phone in a most excited tone. "We can sell The Grit newspaper door-to-door!" I'll admit the ad looked great: newsboy holding a copy of the heralded publication amidst a background of fabulous toys and prizes that could be earned by peddling throughout the neighborhood. Great bonuses and easy profits appeared to be a lead pipe cinch; all a guy had to do was sell the one paper that nobody in their right mind could live without: The Grit.

The ad boasted the following: "Sell a copy for twenty cents, you keep seven cents." For once, those ridiculously stupid times tables we were forced to learn in school may have come in handy at a time like this. If we sold one hundred papers that would be a whole two dollars - no, wait, let's bump that decimal up one point; that would be twenty dollars! What were we waiting for? We needed to get out and sell that thing! My mind began the cash-registering: twenty dollars equals ten dollars apiece; man, we could sell a hundred of these in an hour easily. Why go to school anymore? We were already rich! A true mathematician will note that I conveniently omitted the percentage owing to the Grit folk...can't you just feel Frisky's excitement??

I had a couple bows like Ole Frisker describes. Threw em both away.. Only thing super about them is they were super slow. My point on was 5 yards with them:)

Question for take down owners. Bear offers two risers, the bubinga / phenolic and the black maple. Same price. Other than appearance would one be better than the other?

Well I dunno.. Ole Friskers riser is Pink:)

The phenolic is the latest and should be the finest. The black maple, especially if dark, looks great too. I like them both.

Joe

it's too hard to fix the grip on the phenolic riser. The damn thing is way too deep and not near Fred enough.

Time down the road will tell if this bow works out for Joe, I hope it does. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upkYQqbrjSc

Yet another crappy song. Why people have such a hard time getting over the fact I have the best bows is a mystery to me. How many people can pick up a Bear TD and have it shooting to absolute perfection without even trying? I didn't even set it up!

Joe

I was hoping that would rile you up. There is nothing to set up,, unless you are trying to shoot the wrong arrows out of it. A Bear take down is like automatic transmission Buick, any old woman can drive it.

It, s obvious , Roy has the real deal. He doesn, t have to sing it, He can bring it.

Roy should be ashamed of himself. Hunting with a target bow. That's sad.

Joe

If Fred could take a Cape Buffalo with his TD prototype, imagine what I can do with my bow after over 50 years of development! My particular bow is the final, perfected unit!

Frisky, there are no more dinasaures, so we will never know.

Hey Joe, I'll save the pocket of this diaper bag when my daughter is done with it. You can use the material for a strike plate on your custom production bow. Rumor has it your fond of tjis color.

I want nothing to do with that miserable diaper bag!

Joe

Blah blah blah blah still junk! The only truly great bows are this shape >>>>D<<<<

Somebody explained it I think in one of the 3 threads but I can't find it. Do the Bear 45# limbs scale at 45 # on the "A" riser?

I had a super 46 pound longbow that Frisk could have had, so he would not need to waste his paper route money, but boys will be boys.

The 45 pound limbs on the B riser scale 47 pounds on the A.

Joe

So 40# No 1 limbs would scale 42 # on the "A" riser. When do you plan to test yours again?

MTQUIVER here; I believe I am suppose to shoot Frisky's new bow on the "Blood Moon" and give my unbiased opinion. (That was the original plan, I believe). I am looking forward to the opportunity and will report back my findings in short order. I do think, however, I, too, should be allowed to accompany Frisky on the out of state bowhunt this fall, if for no other reason to recover, field dress, and drag out any animal that may impale itself on an arrow that Joe may have dropped while losing his way back to camp. Stay Safe/Shoot Straight MTQUIVER

MT feel sorry for you-having to be arrow boy for him. Do you get to use your own knife or do you have to use that imported letter opener of his? Moot point as deer in other states will stay away from him-in case he drops an arrow from a tree stand and impales them.

Look forward to your unbiased report.

MT, I can't imagine how stressful it must be to live in the same community and to associate with the misleading, malfunctional, misaligned, maladjusted, menacing, malicious Minnesota Mad Man. You have to be a very durable and resilient person. Yes you should definitely be taken on the hunting trip. I am very interested in a truthful review on the new bow.

MT you won't have to drag anything for Fisky! Those mouse traps fail at altitude yet Otzi's bow survived thousands of years. Hmm what could we learn from that? I think you know the answer Joe. Still waiting on my generations Legend. Matt

Ps I feel like the clock is ticking. I have been studying Matt Graham and he makes his own bows. He is also a master of the atlatel all primitive skills really. I am rooting for you Joe but I feel this distraction is going to be overwhelming hard for me to get over. Sady dwindling fan. Matt

He is also a big game guide in Utah and has his own knife series. Sorry but those are the facts.

All MT can look forward to is climbing a tree over a food plot and waiting for a fawn to get within his maximum range of 10 yards. He'll have 3.5 months to get the job done next season!

Joe

MT,

While in theory you would be welcome to join us if and when we ever succeed in dragging Joe out west, the likely reality is that Peter and I will both have our hands full with just getting him and his gear up to a high camp, and keeping him from wandering off..let alone the difficulty of sitting him someplace where an elk might blunder within his range. In short, it will be a lot like running a day camp, or even babysitting...is this really something you want to sign up for?

He could be the camp cook, and clean up the horse poop. Prolly about all he's good for:)

Guys, I think you are selling Frisky short. I think he would be an asset to a hunting trip. His intelligence would enable him to solve most any hunting or camping issue. We must remember that Frisky is not as dumb as he looks.

Does Bear pay you monthly or per year, having the Legend on staff as their ambassador for trad bows world wide? Any TV shows in the works?

My position, as the northland's greatest hunter, is unpaid. In fact, it's a title imposed by Divine Right of Kings.

Joe

Now back to our thrilling mini-series Greatest Bow of Them All. Staring The Legend of the North.

Pleased to hear MT checking in and look forward to his unbiased report on Frisky’s bow after he shoots it on the Blood Moon. Do hope he gets a chance to join Frisky and others on the hunt - Frisky apparently needs all the help he can get finding the animal, field dressing the animal, dragging him and recoverying the arrow - both ends! MT has earned his keep, even for a LEGEND! ~OB55

The closest MT is going to get to a western hunt is stalking sheep in some farmer's field.

Joe

Where we hunt elk, there must 4 or 5 thousand sheep coming down to be trucked to California. (No idea what Californios do with them). And we are considered “West” by most standards. MT-don’t know him-is welcome to come out this way to spin some shafts. Frisky could come out too, but this altitude would make him dizzier than he already is. Best leave Frisky in MN as Nevada would be too hard on him-the highest point in MN would be considered a minor mound here.

LOL, Joe:)

TODAY IS THE BIG DAY! This is the blood moon - the day Frisky promised that he would let MT fire his new bow and give us an unbiased opinion. We are all anticipating MT’s report on the Greatest Bow! How about it Frisky? Do you and MT have a date tonight? Looking forward to MT’s report. ~OB55

MT didn't show up. He chickened out. I was up and the moon was covered by clouds, so I went back to bed. I did hold my new bow to the sky, after stringing it, but I didn't shoot it due to injury. It's still the greatest and will get a proper baptism in blood!

Joe

Well, well, well. What a disappointing development this is. However considering the severity of his injury I think he made a wise choice.

I saw the moon briefly through a hole in the clouds when I went out to start the wife's truck at 4:00 am. It wasn't red yet as it was too high in the sky at that time. Clouds had it covered up permanently before I even got back inside.

Yep. The entire S. MN region was cloudy.

FYI to ALL: I phone Joe early this a.m. and he did not pick up. I drove over to his place, knocked on door and no answer. Called again, no answer and he has no mailbox set up so I cant leave a message. Several attempts and many miles of travel on my part with great anticipation of breaking his new bow in and giving an honest report on it, but through all my efforts, nothing was done as of yet. Joe, I am STILL willing to drive back down and indoctrinate your bow. I am sure it is a great bow. I am sure if you were in bed, you did not hear me knocking as so often is the case...well, that's your story and I'm sure you're sticking to it. Stay Safe/Shoot Straight MTQUIVER

SO! The truth is out. Frisky isn’t willing to let MT tryout his bow and give us all his honest opinion! What’s he hiding? What’s up with that Frisky? Injury or no injury - why can’t/won’t you let MT give it a test drive and let us know the results????? Enquiring minds want to know! ~OB55

Even though I have an idea that Frisky calls any bow that he happens to own, the worlds greatest, I think the Bear Kodiak TD is a nice bow. I’ve only shot one at the Kzoo Expo 4 or 5 yrs ago, and I liked it. Didn’t end up buying it, but sometimes wish I had. The bow I shot, had the all Bubinga riser, and I thought it was both good looking and shot very well.

MP

I was just notified my phone has been ringing off the hook today. Don't blame me! My sisters were over for pizza and answered my phone, as I was working upstairs. I asked who it was, and they both started reading off a phone number. Obviously a telemarketer, so I told them to hang up. This evening, I checked my phone, after reading MT's post, and it was him! They should have told me it was MTQuiver, as that's what comes up, but they didn't! Anyway, he would have just tainted a great bow. Maybe even jinxed it badly, so no loss. He'll have to wait until I'm good and ready to shoot it.

Joe

Well, that’s a pretty lame excuse - blame it on the family. Hey, I thought it was YOU who invited MT to go ahead a shoot it? Are you now backing off of that stance? Sounds like you are backing out of this deal just as you did for the 10,000 $$ reward for finding your arrow. There seems to be a “thing” going on here where you promise and then don’t deliver. LOL. WE are all waiting for MT’s evaluation of your new, great bow. I won’t believe another word out of your mouth until I read MT’s unbiased opinion - just kidding. All in good fun. Keep up the pranks Frisky. It makes the LW worthwhile. ~OB55

I just got a text from a friend in Eau Claire Wisconsin that a Joe Frisk will be putting on an archery exhibition at a pre game Super Bowl show. Any of you guys heard that?

Thought it was half time show. Prayers up from NY for NO costume failure like J Jackson. Ya know pants down or something like on the big stage.

Had avoided this thread for a bit as it was harming my mental health but since the Blood Moon had come and gone decided to take a peek.

Not surprised no arrows were flung and Frisky was unable to shoot (YET AGAIN!!!) as he was nursing a snow shovelling injury!

Sheesh...what they call a snowstorm in Austin (which is spittin' distance from Iowa btw) we call " a heavy frost" in Canada, the real North.

Don't know what he would do up here...likely hire the 13 year old next door to shovel his snow while he goes to his computer to shovel something else here.

Fiction beats facts for a while but I expect the first shots will be a yawner.

And,finally, as for dragging Frisky to Colorado, I concur with crookedstix we'll have our hands full getting him and all his crap up to the high camp and then making sure he doesn't get lost inside his tent! We'll also need to find an elk that's tired of living for him to miss a few times from 13 yards until he gets it right.

We'll tell him to imagine he's shooting another hole in his garage window...he never misses that.

Oh...and my sympathies MT...can't imagine your pain!

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