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A two-foot splice?

Messages posted to thread:
ny yankee 19-Jan-18
JusPassin 19-Jan-18
JusPassin 19-Jan-18
PEARL DRUMS 19-Jan-18
unhinged 19-Jan-18
cedar shooter 19-Jan-18
Jim Davis 19-Jan-18
Dry Bones 19-Jan-18
PEARL DRUMS 19-Jan-18
Bowmania 19-Jan-18
GF 19-Jan-18
JusPassin 20-Jan-18
Bowlim 20-Jan-18
Jim Davis 20-Jan-18
Vtbow 20-Jan-18
JusPassin 21-Jan-18
From: ny yankee
Date: 19-Jan-18




Are they really that easy? I watched a guy on Youtube last night talking about how to "fix" a broken wood arrow. All he had was a fine toothed hand saw, a vise, and a small block plane. He squared the end of the shaft, planed it to a 6" taper, sliced a 6" slit in a piece of dowel and wood glued the shaft into the slit. Wrapped it up tightly with some cord and he was done in 5 minutes. He did carefully check to make sure it was lined up well though. He took a cured one and just planed down with the small block plane and sanded with fine paper. He had a footing done in like 5 minutes with no power tools. I think I need to try this!

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Jan-18

JusPassin's embedded Photo



Is it easy, you tell me.....

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Jan-18




That arrow is walnut, and birch, 7 pieces. Just an example of what can be done.

The splices are scarf joints, and just using titebond glue they can be shot into a cement wall, the arrow will of course shatter, but the glue joints don't release.

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 19-Jan-18




Never did it, but I do know the word easy is relative. For some it could be a breeze while others may struggle mightily.

From: unhinged
Date: 19-Jan-18




It's doable with some practice. You are going to have some trashed shafts learning to keep those long splices in line with hand tools.

From: cedar shooter
Date: 19-Jan-18




Bypassing that arrow is awesome. Rick

From: Jim Davis
Date: 19-Jan-18




I used to do two-foot splices to repair an arrow. They look nice but take too long. It's what inspired me to find a faster way.

From: Dry Bones
Date: 19-Jan-18




Looks nice, but how do you have any idea of what spine you will get before you start? I understand once your done you can spine test it, but IF you end up with a bunch of mis-matched spined arrows, kinda hard to use them.

-Bones

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 19-Jan-18




I can only assume its like a natural shoot shaft, you simply sand them down until you hit your spine, within reason of course.

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 19-Jan-18




Dry Bones that's just what I was thinking. A lot of TIME spent on an arrow that will never shoot where non-spliced arrow shoot.

Bowmania

From: GF
Date: 19-Jan-18




“I used to do two-foot splices to repair an arrow. They look nice but take too long. It's what inspired me to find a faster way.”

Which reminds me.... how DO you prep the broken shaft to mate it with the reparrow???

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 20-Jan-18




The reparrow is a nice idea if you just want to replace the foot. My wood shafts weren't always willing to break at the right spot to do that.

From: Bowlim
Date: 20-Jan-18




I make boats and can knock off a splice (we always need to lengthen bits of wood) in a minute or so. Normally starting with square wood which makes it a little easier. Same drill bypassing nodes on bamboo fly rods.

I wouldn't say it is easy in the sense that a lot of people will struggle just learning something basic like sharpening the tools before they ever make it to the wood. But the process itself is mechanical, it is not some mysterious master skill. Just cut the wood the way it wants to be cut, using the tools the way they were designed to work.

From: Jim Davis
Date: 20-Jan-18




GF, you just taper the shaft as for a field point or broadhead.

From: Vtbow
Date: 20-Jan-18




12:1 is standard scarf join ratio. As someone Also comin from the wooden boat world, it really isn't that bad. A hand plane and some sand paper and in a couple minutes you should be good. Joint will be stronger than the rest of the arrow....

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 21-Jan-18




By the way, to easily clamp two pieces of round wood (arrow) I just routed a 45 degree groove down the center of two 10 inch pieces of 1 x 3. Pair the two boards with the shallow grooves opposite each other and hinge one side so the can be folded open.

Place the glued up rounded shafts in the groove and clamp. They stay aligned just fine.





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