Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Habu bows.

Messages posted to thread:
gradymaci 15-Jan-18
fdp 16-Jan-18
gradymaci 16-Jan-18
Bowmania 16-Jan-18
George D. Stout 16-Jan-18
ruintfletch 16-Jan-18
Ollie 16-Jan-18
gradymaci 16-Jan-18
N-idaho 16-Jan-18
gradymaci 16-Jan-18
BATMAN 16-Jan-18
Bowmania 16-Jan-18
fletch 16-Jan-18
plentycoupe 17-Jan-18
barebow626 13-Jan-19
timex 13-Jan-19
B.T. 13-Jan-19
B.T. 13-Jan-19
CMF_3 13-Jan-19
nineworlds9 13-Jan-19
hockey7 13-Jan-19
George D. Stout 13-Jan-19
B.T. 14-Jan-19
RymanCat 14-Jan-19
Ghost308 14-Jan-19
Bucbuster 14-Jan-19
BigHorn 14-Jan-19
timex 14-Jan-19
Babysaph 14-Jan-19
Bayrunner 14-Jan-19
DanaC 15-Jan-19
camodave 16-Jan-19
David McLendon 16-Jan-19
boatbuilder 16-Jan-19
beemann 16-Jan-19
2 bears 16-Jan-19
David McLendon 17-Jan-19
Jon Simoneau 17-Jan-19
B.T. 17-Jan-19
woodsman 17-Jan-19
RymanCat 17-Jan-19
PECO 17-Jan-19
PECO 17-Jan-19
The Whittler 17-Jan-19
From: gradymaci Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 15-Jan-18




When I saw a ad for a Habu for sale it peaked my curiosity.I looked a them years ago but Checked out his website today and I did not realize the price..I'm not pass spending crazy money for stuff so someone tell me why so much of a spread between it and other high-end bows..Please no crazy people that have not been on there meds replying..I might have to get on his list if they are all that.. Thanks fellas.

From: fdp
Date: 16-Jan-18




Nobody can answer that question but you. They cost that much because it is a custom bow and the market will support the price. Plain and simple.

Several makes of "custom" bows out there that are way over from my point of view.

From: gradymaci Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 16-Jan-18




Sure they can... Already got PMs telling me there thoughts..What I'm asking Habu bows $1000.00 better in that it's got breakthrough Technology, 500 fps faster, ect..I don't want to wait and pay that price if x amount of people say It's a awesome bow but no better than the x bow I shoot now..

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 16-Jan-18




Check out his delivery date. I looked at getting one about 5 (10?) years ago. At that time the wait was two years ago. In addition, and I'm not sure this is 100% accurate, he had a price structure. Same bow one price for 2 years and a higher price for something like 6 months. I was thinking at that time I wouldn't live long enough to get my moneys worth.

I heard one of the reasons for the high price is that he goes to South America and hand picks the wood for his bows. I think they only come in bacote and coco bola maybe bubinga. Whatever woods they come in you can see the quality.

Hope that wasn't crazy, I tend to lean that way!!!

Bowmania

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 16-Jan-18




None of it matters if it doesn't work for you. People need to understand that a bow needs to fit. It needs to feel like it belongs in your hands and maybe a Habu is. If you think for a second it will make you a better shooter, or is heads-above any other bow made, then you will be in for a let down more than likely. If it fits you and you like it, well then you did good.

One of the guys who posts here, or has in the past, has them and shoots them, so he would be the feller to talk to.

From: ruintfletch
Date: 16-Jan-18




I would never wait that long or pay the price he wants for those bows. Too many other builders that will get you a bow made in 3-4 months.

From: Ollie Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 16-Jan-18




You have to first understand what you are paying the premium for. Mainly cosmetics. He uses very expensive wood that is carefully matched and hand-selected. There are other less expensive bows that perform just as well, if not better, than a Habu but few will match its beauty. Is it worth the extra money? He would not have a 1-2 year wait list if some people did not think so.

From: gradymaci Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 16-Jan-18




Thanks guys enough said...By what the PMs I got and this info, it validates my gut feeling.. Thanks again Jerry

From: N-idaho
Date: 16-Jan-18




try before you buy, I have had 5 custom bows from 4 different manufactures, I could shoot 2 of the manufactures bows very good. could not shoot the other 2 and sold them at drastic discounted price. as goerge said, its all how you shoot the bow, I will tell you the 2 I could not shoot were from very good bowyers that are talked about on this site, I just couldn't shoot them.

From: gradymaci Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 16-Jan-18




Very good.. thanks Please Close Thread..

From: BATMAN Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 16-Jan-18




X2 for opinion by N-Idaho!

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 16-Jan-18




I agree with George about the fit of a bow, but it's not what I've done.

When I first shot a longbow, I shot it so poorly that I decided to get one just like it and learn to shoot it as good as the current bow I was shooting. That taught me a lot about bows. I did learn to shoot it better.

I had to shoot it a lot, but I don't know if you notice it archery is fun. It's not the bow, it's always the shooter.

Bowmania

From: fletch
Date: 16-Jan-18




I had one of his recurves, loved it, good weight shot good, always said if it rains ICan just sit inside and look at it, awesome craftsmanship.

From: plentycoupe Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member
Date: 17-Jan-18




Totally agree with George. A bow needs to fit. I bought a Habu Vyperkhan years ago. It was hands down one of the most beautiful bows I have owned. BUT it did not fit me well so i ended up selling it. Good thing is i sold it for close to what I paid. Excellent shape and no two year wait.....it will sell.

From: barebow626
Date: 13-Jan-19




Good bows. But I'd go for a blacktail every time. Top notch quality and lovely folk to deal with

From: timex
Date: 13-Jan-19




I had 2 an original habu I bought used I shot it great & killed a bunch of deer with it it was 64@26 I shot 2020 aluminums & it shot hard & quiet but The weight got to be to much for me I bought a new one from Chris in 2003 a vipercahn that had cloudy glass in the limbs at a reduced price & I never shot the vipercahn that well I did kill some deer with it but eventually sold it. ya know it's an individual thing & some folks are fine with an old Ford truck & others gotta have the Mercedes. I'm most defiantly a Ford truck kinda guy

From: B.T.
Date: 13-Jan-19




I have 3-4 custom expensive bows and some old classics as well. The expensive bows shoot the best..that’s why I own them. The classics shoot as accurately, just not as fast or as finely crafted. For my money they are worth the prices. To be completely honest, even though it could hurt financially..some are to inexpensive.

From: B.T.
Date: 13-Jan-19




In many businesses if you have a 6 month backlog prices are going up 15%-30% These bowyers with two year waits should raise prices yesterday.

From: CMF_3
Date: 13-Jan-19




I went over to Chris' place in Couer D'Alene summer of 2014 and shot some of his bows. I was very impressed and ordered the longbow. He said it would be 2+ years...I have not yet heard back from him. If he were to call and say it was ready I would go through with it; however, at this point if I were in the market for a new bow I would get an ILF setup just for ease of use and tuning.

The only real downside I can think of with his bows are what to do if you break a limb or want to change draw weight. If you shoot a black widow like me you can always call and get replacements quickly. I feel like if I traveled and spent big bucks on hunting I'd have to get 2 Habus to make sure I wouldn't be stuck without a bow if something happened.

From: nineworlds9
Date: 13-Jan-19




Habus are exceptional, I have owned 3 different ones. The longbow limbs are the better of the two options. They are built with excellent attention to detail and shoot extremely consistently and forgiving. There are many 3pc bows which shoot as good, but none better IMHO. There are cheaper options that are built with the same quality. For those without the taste t

The bowyer is a bit of a character by all accounts. Not in a bad way, just an "artiste" and a perfectionist and the wait lately has less to do with demand and more to do with the bowyer building them on HIS schedule. On average he might build 1 a month.

The folks criticizing honestly have no taste for the finer things in life or just havent shot enough bows to really be able to comment on what makes a good bow and whats worth paying for. But watch them go spend $2K on a factory built rifle and accessories. Handmade functional artwork is what a Habu is and its not everyones cup of tea. Neither is are hand assembled Italian supercars.

OP you most certainly would get more 'value' by some of the other custom bowyers, my personal favorites are Tall Tines, JavaMan, Stalker, and Big Jim, but a Habu is still a bow worthy of admiration. If you cant affors the price or stand the wait, maybe its just not for you. But dont listen to criticism from folks who are satisfied with a Toyota Camry but bashing a McClaren.

From: hockey7
Date: 13-Jan-19




Well I have to chime in here. I acquired his new triple carbon Death Adder, and it is the best longbow I have ever owned, or shot. The riser is the perfect length, and physical weight for a steady arm. The grip fits me better than anything I've ever shot. The veneers and riser wood is beyond top grade...the finish will prevent scratches and scuffs...it is fast...but the most important part of all these accolades is that I shoot it accurately. So fire away with all your criticism...I'm in love with this bow.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 13-Jan-19




Criticism is fine if it's not destructive, and it's a little shallow to think everyone will agree with you one way or another. Apparently, the bow fits you well if you think it's the best bow you ever owned or shot. That's a good thing, but it doesn't mean everyone will feel that way. There are a lot of beautiful, good shooting bows on the market at various prices and not everyone will fit every archer. When you find one that does, then you've got a keeper and it doesn't really matter who made it.

From: B.T.
Date: 14-Jan-19




One a month..your lucky they aren’t $10,000

From: RymanCat
Date: 14-Jan-19




Wait a minute you have things against others on meds? I could tell you somethings but now you lose out by being prejudice.LOL

Limbs split is a known thing I believe. Mine had it both limbs.

You want to spend for high end then get a Blacktail.

From: Ghost308
Date: 14-Jan-19




Looks like a Copy of a Black Widow and why buy a copy when you can have the real thing

From: Bucbuster
Date: 14-Jan-19




Ollie nailed it.

From: BigHorn
Date: 14-Jan-19




i owned a bushmaster, it is an exceptional bow. i sold it to friend and would buy it back in a second if he offered and thats an old model id guess the new ones are even better. are they worth the $? if it makes you happy it is. i couldnt find anything to critisize on that bow. and no, they arent copies of a widow, there are several bows out there with that limb mounting style.

From: timex
Date: 14-Jan-19




as I said I had 2 of them 1 new & 1 used I don't have a clue what they cost these days but to put things in perspective I took a perfectly good rem 700 in 243. sent it off had the receiver - bolt face & lugs cut square a stainless bull barrel & oversized recoil lug installed I did the jewell trigger & stock in letting & bedding work myself. & iv got very close to $3ooo in a benchrest gun that'll put rounds in a golf ball @ 600 yds with hunting loads. it's what ever makes ya happy fellas life is short enjoy yourself

From: Babysaph
Date: 14-Jan-19




Get a widder

From: Bayrunner
Date: 14-Jan-19




Try before you buy if you can or buy used. It seems most of the high-end bows are pricey new and some even used, including Black Widow, Morrison, Blacktail to name a few. I have purchased three used Habu bows since about 2005 and still own two of them (Older recurve model, and a Vyperkhan longbow). I sold the Death Adder to buy the Vyperkahn because the draw wt was too high other wise I would have kept it and not purchased the Vyperkahn. My son shots the recurve now. The bottom line is I shoot better with them than other bows, with one exception - a black tail recurve I also sold. My bad. As far as speed, the A&H bow at similar poundage appears to be very similar if not bit faster (I recently chronographed both side by side, same poundage, same arrow etc.). Both are dead in the hand after the shot. The A&H seems quieter as setup but the Vyperkahn has minimal amount of silencer on the string and I have not cared about the minimal noise. I have fewer "flyers" when shooting the Vyperkahn. I think the handle fits better. I hope that helps.

From: DanaC
Date: 15-Jan-19




Saw Habu's years ago and didn't spring for one. As someone said, they're works of art as well as functional. Priced a T&T bamboo rod lately? (I mostly fish graphite!)

I recently spent a pile of money having the motor on my pick-up re-done, valves etc. If I hadn't I'd have spent it on something else. New truck? Not at $35000!

I've got more money tied up in fishing rods and bows and guns than I want to think about, but when I want to fish or shoot, I don't wish for the right tool, I just grab it and go.

From: camodave
Date: 16-Jan-19




I had one. They are way overpriced for the actual performance. My 1960 Kodiak is faster with the same arrow and draw weight.

DDave

From: David McLendon
Date: 16-Jan-19




Digging in my hip pocket on that one.

From: boatbuilder
Date: 16-Jan-19




Probably a great bow just not into a 2 yr wait and price but if the price and wait doesn’t bother you and it fits by all means go for it.

From: beemann
Date: 16-Jan-19




At the end of the day all that matters is what you think of it. I have had a bunch of high end bows that I thought were dogs. The hype in each case was beyond belief. Shoot what you want. Just because something is expensive doesn't mean squat....

From: 2 bears
Date: 16-Jan-19




I get to shoot a lot of bows way more expensive than I could ever buy. For the most part it is just the woods and beauty that makes them cost so much more. I can still miss with them just fine. One may feel particularly smooth but it can usually be attributed to the weight and length. I have yet to shoot one of the Super Curves though. For a super short bow I am still waiting to get my hands on a Little Suckling,Shrew,or Texas Comanche.>>>---> Ken

From: David McLendon
Date: 17-Jan-19




I have a very nice and pricey recurve and I like it, but it spends most of it's time either hanging on the wall or in its case since I bought a cheap import hybrid LB and tricked it out to suit me. The Chinese LB has really changed my view about paying a lot of money and waiting a long time for a bow. At my age I am more focused on the doing and not so much on waiting for much of anything.

From: Jon Simoneau Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 17-Jan-19




I’ve had 3 of them and still have my old recurve. It’s my all time favorite bow. I never shot the vyperkhan as well as the old recurve. Probably due to the bigger and heavier riser. Since I primarily hunt whitetails from treestands I prefer the extra mass weight.

From: B.T.
Date: 17-Jan-19




Real costs...take a new F150 with LED headlights in to your dealer for a replacement light. $1,700 each. Are hand made traditional bows really expensive? No they are not. If you buy used from one of the many bow addicts here and there the prices are very reasonable. Example..A few years ago I bought a used/new ACS that cost $1,400 new for $950 shipped. I saw no signs it was ever even strung up. Enjoy the easy availability and low prices now for Custom American craftsmanship.

From: woodsman
Date: 17-Jan-19




Beemann hit it on the head. Price means nothing if you shoot it well and have confidence in it. Part of the problem is we have a lot of choices to pick and choose from. If you only had one bow and had to make it it work you would probably shoot and hunt with it and not know the difference. The more bows you have or have to compare too the more it works on your mind.

From: RymanCat
Date: 17-Jan-19




Sorry but these do not compare to Blacktails.

I got my bow that was totally misrepresented and had splits in all 4 limbs on a two limbs set. Was very disappointed and reached out to the guy and told him and his answer was doesn't hinder the shooting ability.

I said you never showed that in photos and you didn't disclose it. Now whats going to happen when it comes time to sell if I don't disclose or show in photos.

He said send back and I will send you the money back that took forever and a day. I let it ride but was ticked when he didn't cover ship and insurance that was 50.00 to send back!

Then I learned they split the limbs. Well your going to hunt with it right. No its coming back to you this is unexceptable.

From: PECO
Date: 17-Jan-19




OK so you guys think you justified the price, now justify the wait. I'm listening.

From: PECO
Date: 17-Jan-19




"Priced a T&T bamboo rod lately? (I mostly fish graphite!) I recently spent a pile of money having the motor on my pick-up re- done, valves etc." How long do you wait for one of those T&T rods? Did it take 2 years to get your truck fixed? I am not on board with even paying $1,000 for a bow, and I'm not waiting 2+ years for a bow.

From: The Whittler
Date: 17-Jan-19




I wouldn't wait 8 months 2 years is definitely out of the question.





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