Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Meat hunters

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Will tell 12-Jan-18
Clydebow 12-Jan-18
ny yankee 12-Jan-18
Ranman 12-Jan-18
lawdy 12-Jan-18
Dan In MI 12-Jan-18
EF Hutton 12-Jan-18
GUTPILE PA 12-Jan-18
EF Hutton 12-Jan-18
J. h2os 12-Jan-18
Liquid Tension 12-Jan-18
JusPassin 12-Jan-18
longbeauxman 12-Jan-18
PEARL DRUMS 12-Jan-18
Wojo14 12-Jan-18
bigdog21 12-Jan-18
South Farm 12-Jan-18
Skeets 12-Jan-18
ny yankee 12-Jan-18
song dog 12-Jan-18
Joey Ward 12-Jan-18
Barber 12-Jan-18
song dog 12-Jan-18
Dry Bones 12-Jan-18
grizz 12-Jan-18
George D. Stout 12-Jan-18
RonG 12-Jan-18
Muskrat 12-Jan-18
Shotkizer 12-Jan-18
South Farm 12-Jan-18
Will tell 12-Jan-18
monkeyball 12-Jan-18
texbow2 12-Jan-18
Longbow58 12-Jan-18
Longbow58 12-Jan-18
throwback 12-Jan-18
camodave 12-Jan-18
smokey 12-Jan-18
sir misalots 12-Jan-18
RymanCat 12-Jan-18
JamesV 12-Jan-18
limbwalker 12-Jan-18
4nolz@work 12-Jan-18
4nolz@work 12-Jan-18
DeerSpotter 12-Jan-18
murph 12-Jan-18
texbow2 12-Jan-18
tradmt 12-Jan-18
lawdy 12-Jan-18
Bowguy 12-Jan-18
tradmt 12-Jan-18
shade mt 12-Jan-18
Terry Lightle 12-Jan-18
Babysaph 12-Jan-18
Bowguy 12-Jan-18
throwback 12-Jan-18
GF 12-Jan-18
Grizz 12-Jan-18
babysaph 12-Jan-18
AK Pathfinder 12-Jan-18
Labackwoodsman 13-Jan-18
EF Hutton 13-Jan-18
handle 13-Jan-18
Budly 13-Jan-18
modrr 13-Jan-18
modrr 13-Jan-18
Shorthair 13-Jan-18
Dan In MI 13-Jan-18
timex 13-Jan-18
Greyfox 13-Jan-18
White Falcon 13-Jan-18
ground hunter 13-Jan-18
greyrider 13-Jan-18
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Babysaph 14-Jan-18
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From: Will tell
Date: 12-Jan-18




I know everything has changed in the last ten years but old habits are hard to drop. My family came from central Pa. And Grandpa raised three boys on top of Boot Jack Hill by raising pigs, cow, chickens, growing a vegetable garden, and eating a lot of venison. I was taught to eat everything I killed with the exception of some vermin we killed.

My son decided not to eat venison and my wife will eat it but would rather have some Black Angus. I didn't kill a deer this year, felt like no one really wanted the meat. I know this sounds odd on a hunting site but I can't see killing a deer unless I'm going to eat it. Anyone else feel this way???

From: Clydebow
Date: 12-Jan-18




Not me. There's plenty of other people that could use that meat, and there are lots of feed the hungry organizations you can donate to. On a good year I keep two deer every year and give away any others I kill to a couple families that can use it. I can't even imagine going through a season and not bow hunt deer.

From: ny yankee
Date: 12-Jan-18




Absolutely. No one eats it in my family but me. Too bad for them I say. I have eaten entire deer myself in the past and I will do it again. I would not kill just for antlers, ever. I have even salvaged the good parts from fresh road kills. I'm a meat hunter and a meat eater. Not much of a trophy hunter.

From: Ranman
Date: 12-Jan-18




Yes, I agree with you. Fortunately my family loves venison. We use venison for ground meat, sausage, stew meat, and of course we love stuffed smoked blackstrap. We also have some friends that are not able to hunt, so we do share the harvest. Randy

From: lawdy
Date: 12-Jan-18




I used to kill 3 deer a year when all my kids were home. It is just my wife and I now so I go for one decent sized deer. If I get a small deer, I will go for a second deer and give meat to the older guys in our village who no longer can hunt. I live in a logging town of 200 people so us locals help each other out. Back before they had moose permits, during tough times, we shared a lot of moose meat. The moose are just about gone now with the ticks and less cutting.

From: Dan In MI
Date: 12-Jan-18




My family doesn't eat a lot of venison, but my neighbors do. That gives me all the reason I need. Find a young family that could use the help and feed them. Works out well for me.

From: EF Hutton
Date: 12-Jan-18




I bet your families would eat some of our smoked sausage we get made down here. We make sure to get our sausage & ground meat.

But, yes that is why i pass on many deer during the season. I get my sausage, then hold out for a euro mount or taxid quality buck, no matter which weapon i am using.

Unfortunately, there are many in our NWR who have to " get the kill " to satisfy that monkey on their back .

From: GUTPILE PA
Date: 12-Jan-18




I luv deer meat but one is enough can see killing them just because I have extra tags when everyone lived at home it was different now it's just me n mom

From: EF Hutton
Date: 12-Jan-18




I absolutely do Not believe in killing, then riding around looking for meat takers. Poor excuse. If YOU do not need it, do not kill it. The food donation idea is good if it really does feed hungry poor folks, but i suspect it is mainly a way for people with a monkey on their back to kill, to clear their conservation concious.

From: J. h2os
Date: 12-Jan-18




I would kill it if we wouldnt eat it. But we all love wild game. My wife was a city girl and had to buy every thing they ate. But now she says she can believe how much money we save on the grocery bill.jeff

From: Liquid Tension
Date: 12-Jan-18




I'm with you. Personally if I didn't eat it I wouldn't kill it. I'd just shoot 3d. I have no problem with anybody hunting for the thrill as long as the Meat isn't wasted. Pure Trophy Hunting however disgusts me.

From: JusPassin Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 12-Jan-18




Very much so, when my freezer is full I loose much of the urge to hunt. Just doesn't seem right.

From: longbeauxman
Date: 12-Jan-18




We dont kill it unless we are going to eat it. That being said we dont buy ground beef and we put 4 to 6 deer a year in the freezer. All my kids grew up eating it and if red meat is eaten in my home its 90% of the time venison. My youngest and my wife do most the freezer filling these days which leaves me to enjoy hunting and watching deer walk by.

From: PEARL DRUMS
Date: 12-Jan-18




I have a friend with ALS, he gets all he wants from me or any of us that hunt. My dad has a non-hunting friend that has heart health issues and venison is great for him. He to gets what he wants from me. My family are casual venison eaters. I have lost a lot of my taste for steaks, I prefer various sausages for most of it, or I make stews and such. That being said, I can live without it if I decide to not kill one.

From: Wojo14
Date: 12-Jan-18




I will not kill anything I will not eat. Unless someone wants it. However, I will kill a predator if givin the opportunity. ~Wojo

From: bigdog21
Date: 12-Jan-18




hunting season is a busy time of year in this house. starts with September squirrels couple dozen in the freezer, then the first of October its a week vacation to north Dakota ducks and pheasant hunting a few dozen of each in the freezer, then late October and early November deer hunting usually just one, after that we chase rabbit and quail for the freezer, come late December its time for geese. we also grow a 1/2 acre garden for all are vegetables, and raise a few cows for table fare.

From: South Farm
Date: 12-Jan-18




I think people who say "I don't like venison" should take it to a good meat market and have it ground into various sausages...they'd soon change their minds! I agree, a raw cut of venison can be gamey, can be "dry", but mixed with some fat and seasoning (and smoked) it's AWESOME. As far as killing a deer for somebody else, I've done it for my grandma a couple of times back when she was alive and wanted to make minced meat or can it, but I wouldn't make a habit out of it say if a guy at work wanted one for example. I'd offer to take them hunting so they could try and shoot their own, however.

From: Skeets
Date: 12-Jan-18




Yep. I will shoot one for my family. But I refuse to kill more deer to "help" reduce the deer population. I would rather be able to see more deer and now I have grandkids I would like them to be able to see more deer and not get bored while learning to hunt.

From: ny yankee
Date: 12-Jan-18




I agree with the sausage guys. My wife did like the hot dogs we were given once. She said it didnt taste like venison.

From: song dog
Date: 12-Jan-18




I am a meat hunter only. Tried chewing on horns once and didn't like them. I don't have any heads hanging on my wall. Can't see killing it if I am not going to eat it.

From: Joey Ward
Date: 12-Jan-18




My problem is that I don't kill enough. :-)

From: Barber
Date: 12-Jan-18




That is what I have been teaching my girls when we hunt . If you kill it you eat it unless someone has asked you to kill a deer for them. I have 2 older gentleman that can’t get out and hunt anymore so I kill a deer for both of them every year. Then get one or 2 for us if I can.

From: song dog
Date: 12-Jan-18




I have to take back what I said earlier. I will kill a coyote but I won't eat it.

From: Dry Bones
Date: 12-Jan-18




As far as deer go, we eat a lot of Venison in my household. I was truly blessed that my son has now taken a turn toward the woods as well. He has always gone with me, but this year (at 9 yrs old) he rifled his first buck and doe. That's more meat in the freezer and we are eating every last bit of them. I wasn't completely raised this way, though my dad does hunt he takes maybe a deer or two a year and eats them, but they do not prefer the deer meat, (more of that USDA cow mindset). I feel overly blessed to get to fill my freezer with venison, but I do not eat everything we intend on shooting. Bobcats, coons, and coyotes are not on the dinner plate. But we do some predator removal and have seen a increase in Turkeys by doing so.

-Bones

From: grizz
Date: 12-Jan-18




I hunt because I love to, I kill for the meat. If someone else doesn't want to it, that's just more for me. Had venison meat loaf last night, YUM.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 12-Jan-18




I think people should decide for themselves what they do within the legalities of law and their own personal ethic. No one in my house eats it, but my son does and my neighbor does and he doesn't have time to hunt due to that thing called work. The deer I kill are consumed by folks who appreciate the meat.

As for feeding others, the Pa. Game Commission has had the "Hunters feeding the hungry" program for years. It includes hunters who just want to give part of their kill to help feed those less fortunate....and there are still plenty of them. If you do some research on that program, you will see a lot of folks benefit from hunter's generosity. Tags give you the right to take game animals, and as long as the meat is utilized, it's no one's business how or by whom.

Legally acquired game of any kind is the business of the hunter who took it, and what he does with it is a matter of his or her own personal ethic.

From: RonG
Date: 12-Jan-18




I agree with the sausage folks also, my taste has gone to sausages, gumbo, stews and soups.

I use the meat as an added ingredient instead of the main course.

I'm more imto pork than venison these days.

From: Muskrat
Date: 12-Jan-18




Fortunately my wife and son and I like venison, and we eat it regularly. If I did not like eating venison it is possible that I would not put near the effort that I do into deer hunting, but fish a lot more in the winter months. In North Florida that's a viable option. I enjoy deer hunting an awful lot though, but having a legitimate use for what I kill has become more and more important to me as the years go by. I suspect I would still hunt deer just for the one or two other families I share venison with. But, with no one interested in the meat, I would likely stop hunting deer, maybe focus on hogs, especially those little ones that cook up so well.

From: Shotkizer
Date: 12-Jan-18




Not me either. I love deer meat but that isn't the reason I bow hunt. The meat is an extra benefit.

From: South Farm
Date: 12-Jan-18




"My problem is that I don't kill enough. :-)"

That just makes it taste that much better when you do, Joey!

From: Will tell
Date: 12-Jan-18




I'll still kill a deer even though it's only me eating it but it sure takes the hunting pressure off you if you don't get one. I have had people who told me they wanted a deer but they think the deer come in nice little precut packages. When I tell them their getting a whole deer they usually pass on the idea.lol

From: monkeyball
Date: 12-Jan-18




To answer your original question.......the answer would be yes. If I have no interest in eating it, I sure am not going to kill it.

Good Shooting->->->->Craig

From: texbow2
Date: 12-Jan-18




The ranch I hunt is part of a voluntary game management program that cover about 20K acres and 15 ranches and we have harvest numbers we are trying to hit. What my family can't eat we donate at $35 per deer.

From: Longbow58
Date: 12-Jan-18




It's just myself and my wife and she just likes the burger,snack sticks and sausage. I hunt antlers and if I don't kill a deer it's no biggee because we have a grandson and son-in-law that hunt so we still get venison. So saying that I don't shoot what we aren't going to eat...and I teach that!

From: Longbow58
Date: 12-Jan-18




Sorry, wanted to add. I do not disagree with meat hunting if it's going to be eaten and not wasted.

From: throwback
Date: 12-Jan-18




I'm a meat hunter at heart and I very rarely shoot anything that doesn't end up on the table. Having said that, the older I get, the more I come to realize that the time I've spent in the woods and all It's brought me over the years, is more important to me than antlers and a freezer full of meat.

From: camodave
Date: 12-Jan-18




Although deer meat is fine I prefer moose or elk. Not a problem giving away moose or elk meat where I live.

DDave

From: smokey
Date: 12-Jan-18




I hear what your saying. My family all liked venison and it was always eaten at my house. Haven't bought a steak in a few years now. My son has moved across country, my daughter last year decided to be a vegetarian and my wife went to a Dietitian who told her that all meat has the possibility of causing cancer.So now its just me eating venison. This year I was lucky enough to harvest two deer. More than enough for me. I gave friends and family most of the second deer. As long as I still eat meat I'll hunt.

From: sir misalots
Date: 12-Jan-18




I eat everything

wanting to try groundhog this year (never tried it)

But Im glad I have Krogers and Walmart to fall back on:)

The only critter Id kill wo eating is a coyote

From: RymanCat
Date: 12-Jan-18




I generally take 4 to 5 deer a year that's enough for me and it gives me a little to spread out among friends when they ask for a piece of game or two.

They generally get some fish or pheasants and duck or geese with the mix so they like what I share with them.

I stopped giving out whole animals they don't appreciate it any more and its a lot or work and expense to continually do any more.

I could kill nearly every animals that's under me generally so what for just to prove still a killer.

Do thanks tired of it all. Let the younger guys try to do it.

All it is to taking an animal or birds or fish's life is being at the right place at the right time and shooting straight enough and knowing how to set up where the shot is going to happen.

From: JamesV
Date: 12-Jan-18




texbow2 posted: "We DONATE deer for $35 each". That should read: "We sell deer for $35 each". My state doesn't allow the selling of game animals.

James

From: limbwalker
Date: 12-Jan-18




Will Tell, I think yours is a very common story. I know many older hunters who simply don't bother anymore, for the same reason.

When I was younger, I had a lot more mouths to feed in my house. Often we would go through 3-4 deer a year, and still run out. Since the kids have been leaving the nest, we use less venison than we used to. Nowdays, 2 deer will usually do, with a third for extra meat just in case. When our youngest leaves home this summer, that will probably drop to no more than 2.

However, my opportunity and interest in hunting has never been greater. Kinda ironic, I know. But I will continue to hunt and harvest, and I will find friends and neighbors who will gladly use the meat. If you ask around, that's not too hard to find in my experience. And being able to supply wholesome venison to my friends, family and neighbors is more than enough reason to keep me in the woods. I'm happy to do it!

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 12-Jan-18




EF Hutton there are State programs that deliver the meat processed and wrapped to the needy it's not driving around looking to get rid of a deer(although I'm sure there are some guys like that).Im not sure about your State.The people who get the meat are very appreciative.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 12-Jan-18




If I give deer away it's processed and wrapped.Giving someone who has no idea what to do with it a whole ends up wasteful usually.

From: DeerSpotter
Date: 12-Jan-18




I had the same situation this season, I didn't hunt. Bought a license SO the state don't go broke. BUT I had some grass feed black Angus in my freezer. There is only two us. So we've got enough meat, steaks, roast ground hamburger. I just couldn't pull the string and arrow on a dear knowing I have all that meat freezer. So I have to say no I don't kill just to kill. I never had anyone on here or anyplace else brag about the recipe for the antlers.

But some people no matter what you say you just " can't please them " some people become victims of their own self. That's kind of disappointing, because message boards don't have facial expressions, tones of voice, you can't feel the empathy in the heart. So some people can say anything they want and have no feeling with it. But I'd say it's about 1%. It be great if every so often we can get together in groups. That way we would know who we're talking to a real person.

I know one thing that God said to Peter " take eat" but Peter also said "no Lord I haven't eaten unclean things" and the Lord said " what I have called clean don't call unclean"

In Genesis God tells Adam " have dominion over them" but people for a long time have gotten away from using what God gave us. They feel everything has to come from the big stores. I'm at the age now, where I can't going to the woods as much as I'd like. Some days I'm stronger some days I'm not. But you start dragging around a 140 pound doe, you find out how strong you are inside and out. And you set your priorities differently.

There are some really good people on these threads, a lot of them we will never see here while on this earth. But a lot of them have left a very good mark on memories of The people that read these threads. And that makes a real big difference, in the memories we have in the woods. People have different reasons for hunting. Some people are hunting for themselves and never find themselves.

Sad

DS

From: murph
Date: 12-Jan-18




I learned how to take care of and cut the deer up the right way. What a big differance in the flavor. Better then the meat at the store.You never know where that meat is from. Now the kids are standing by the stove waiting with a plate. The small deer doesn't last last very long around my house.

From: texbow2
Date: 12-Jan-18




When I say I donate deer for $35, it means I pay a $35 processing fee to the processor who is part of a hunters for the hungry program which distributes the meat to local food banks/charities. I am paying....not recieving

From: tradmt
Date: 12-Jan-18




If I have a full freezer, which is pretty rare, and still have a buck tag,......I'm hunting for antlers. Some may take issue with that but I have seen too many animals starve to death in this harsh environment I live in to think I'm helping the herd by saving that tag.

I can always donate, and/or make jerky and snack sticks, everyone likes that stuff. It never gets wasted, even if you left it lay it isn't wasted but I would never do that.

From: lawdy
Date: 12-Jan-18




The old guys I give meat to really appreciate it, and I learn a lot from them as they were all loggers and timber cruisers, and know these big timberlands like the back of their hands. I also hunt a neighbor's land and give him cod I catch in Newfy. He loves salted cod.

From: Bowguy Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 12-Jan-18




Wish more guys thought that way. I personally eat a few deer a year. My gf and her daughter also eat some. One thing burns me is idiots who set an alarm clock, trek their way to a stand, wait for a good shot, make it and now have a problem cause they don't want it. Seriously, go fishing, least you can catch and release. Shoot 3D, run hounds, do anything but kill just to say you did. Eating game is part of hunting. You don't like it- play golf

From: tradmt
Date: 12-Jan-18




Bowguy, sometimes populations are far above the environments carrying capacity and when it is, people that kill deer to give them away are doing nothing but good. Nature will take its course, animals will starve for weeks and months until they die, disease will take many as well, usually in painful fashion but, as the top predator, we can lessen that suffering and waste by taking those animals while healthy and make good use of them.

From: shade mt
Date: 12-Jan-18




I usually quit hunting once we have enough, which is usually 2 or 3 for just my wife and I. We almost never buy ground beef, I grind my own and mix beef tallow with it, and I save a few roast, steaks, and we can some occasionally.

When all 5 of my kids were at home, I almost couldn't kill enough.

I got a buck and a doe so far, and I have tags left. Tomorrow is the last day of archery in PA I think i'll go and try to get one for bologna, I make my own.

But no I usually don't hunt if we don't need it.

From: Terry Lightle Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 12-Jan-18




Have 3 in the freezer,headed out for last weekend and can kill up to 3 which I am sure will not happen.We enjoy eating them and would love to have 1 more.Love venison on spaghetti and in chili and hamburger helper! Terry

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 12-Jan-18




I usually won't kill a deer unless it's a trophy buck.,

From: Bowguy Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 12-Jan-18




Tradmt if that's the case fine, better than someone shooting them and burying them for no reason. But I live in a very liberal state bag limit wise. You can bait, use cross guns, got a 5 month unlimited doe season in lots of the state. Where I live it's all farms and woods. I've been at this a long time. Oughta be able to find deer right?? I was sick this summer and home every day. I drove around late summer checking fields. In late summer the population should be big as it gets. Deer should be visible. I saw exactly zero deer. For 4 months now I've had a food pile near the house. I'd never stoop so low as to hunt it but I wanted to see if the deer were nocturnal. I bought a camera and aimed it at food. Over 4 months 4 deer on film. 3 small bucks, one time each, one she horn recently. Checking coyote snares, never do I see deer tracks in the snow. Going to work a Before light an hour one never crosses in front of me. I still kill/see deer but I drive an hour for this. I leave the woods to hunt others. This I'll shoot anything to brag about numbers is pretty lame. The people doing so shot themselves out of a sport. Now this is good cause the herds will rebuild and people have stopped hunting them here cause of the lack. Shooting deer for zero reason besides getting rocks off is an insult to those who live bowhunting as a way of life. I've been to a few Untited Bowhunter of NJ dinners and heard guys brag about 20 plus deer a year years ago. It's all good. The guys can hang up their guns now and move on. The herds will rebuild. Just sad trying to take a kid out. Many don't wanna drive real far or stay close and see nothing. Conservation 101. Keep herds strong but in check. It can go both ways

From: throwback
Date: 12-Jan-18




SD, you mentioned some people thinking everything has to come from a big store. That reminded me of a girl I once knew, asking why the venison I was cutting up was so red and looked nothing like the meat in the store down in town. I had to tell her that was the way good fresh meat looked, lol.

From: GF
Date: 12-Jan-18




There's a thread on Bowsite about hunting Africa and one guy said he leaves all of the meat, hides, and horns over there... he's just in it for the photos and the stories...

I get cherishing the memory of a good hunt, but if I weren't interested in collecting an interesting specimen and I had no interest in eating it....

What the hell? I do understand loving the hunt; I don't understand hunting just for the opportunity to kill something.

Around here, we have areas where we still do need a few guys who are wiling to take a few dozen deer a year, because they have access to more good private land than they know what to do with; the herd is out of control still (in areas), the landscape is suffering from the burden, and some of these deer have got to go. I sure do wish that if these guys don't want to shoot does, they'd consider letting a "Meat Hunter" (like ME, perhaps???) come onto "their" properties and take out a few of those big does who keep busting them anyway....

I also DO understand donating venison to the food shelves in areas where the herd needs more reduction than the guys doing the hunting can actually eat or give to friends, but man.... If you don't know who it's going to and you don't know that it'll be appreciated... It'd be hard for me to not choose to leave those ones in the woods...

Meanwhile, I do know a good with a lot of access to a lot of good properties, and if he doesn't choose to introduce me to the landowners so I can get on there properly, I sure do hope he'll get out and get me one of those hereford-sized does he's been feeding all year....

From: Grizz
Date: 12-Jan-18




I have 1 fat buck and 1 corn fed bear in the freezer. I feel like i eat like a King!The bear meat is so good l have a friend who trades me moose meat for it. I cut my buck in 1 inch thickness. It stays moist and i get the perfect cook on it. I eat everyting also.

From: babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 12-Jan-18




so gf you would leave an animal in the woods to rot before you would give it to some needy person just because you did know them? Wow

From: AK Pathfinder
Date: 12-Jan-18




My wife and I usually go through 2 deer a year, sometimes a bit less. If I get an extra tag or shoot another big game animal we have way more than we need. My son has 9 kids and they all love wild game. Trust me, nothing go's to waste!

From: Labackwoodsman
Date: 13-Jan-18




We raise our own cows to eat so I only take 1 deer a year if I can. I would like to kill more deer but between nighthunters and poachers we don't have an excess. It's sad.

From: EF Hutton
Date: 13-Jan-18




Babysaph

I went back and read Gf's post to see what you are talking about.

He said " leave in the woods ." Common sense says he meant that he would not take them, but instead let them in the woods, Alive.

That is common sense. Ah boy ( head shaking left to rgt ) today common sense is out the window.

From: handle
Date: 13-Jan-18




EF Hutton: common sense surely is out the window, but apparently political correctness is alive and well! As George stated above, why you buy your license is your business and yours alone. Who the hell am I to tell another how or why they should hunt? There was a time when I was foolish enough to try to justify why I kill deer. That was a longggg time ago. I kill deer because I like it period the end. How I choose to use the carcass is my business. There is way too much people telling people what they should think in this country, and sometimes on this site. Jim

From: Budly
Date: 13-Jan-18




I like to hunt and hunt till the season ends. I have many land owners and brothers and sisters who look to me to provide them with venison. It is all about bows, arrows, and freedom to hunt as opposed to rightous deep spritual rationalizations. I have fun, keep it simple and don't over think it. There is no such thing as shooting an extra deer with my family around.

From: modrr
Date: 13-Jan-18




Bowguy,I don't know where in New Jersey you live,but I see and can shoot more deer then I've ever seen in the past, I don't, but in some areas more deer should be taken.

From: modrr
Date: 13-Jan-18




Bowguy,I don't know where in New Jersey you live,but I see and can shoot more deer then I've ever seen in the past, I don't, but in some areas more deer should be taken.

From: Shorthair Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 13-Jan-18




Even if I am the only person that will eat it I will still go hunting and shoot a deer... I ALWAYS have friends that beg for venison...no matter if ground, sausages or roasts.

Additionally, a lot of places have venison donation programs..you kill it and get it processed...then deliver to them and they distribute to people in rural communities that want it.

keep em sharp,

ron herman

From: Dan In MI
Date: 13-Jan-18




Let's take the emotion out of this argument....(and the holier than thou attitudes)

There are people that either have the ability, or will, to hunt and kill. There are people that don't. Yet many of these same non hunting people like meat. That is why we have butchers. Some of the meat eaters like venison. They can't buy it at the butcher, BUT there are still people that have the ability and are willing to share the results to supply them with venison.

WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?

As long as they follow the legal limits/rules they are just filling a need and enjoying what they do.

Also, it can actually do hunters a service. The more people that eat and like venison that aren't hunters at least become pro-hunting legislatively. We NEED that help.

Note -- regarding the African hunter. I believe most, if not all, African hunts you cannot legally take the meat it must be given to the locals.

From: timex
Date: 13-Jan-18

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I do not believe in killing for entertainment. That said I do herd control at a plant nursery. Iv done an estimated 300lbs burger this year.ha probably 200lbs steaks-roasts Sent roughly 200 lbs to pa for chip deer bolongna dogs sweet sticks etc. I caned I think 180 pints. Some for human consumption & some for dog food (that's right) dog food fill jars with the lesser cuts of meat pressure cook @ 11 lbs for 90 minutes. Can't think of anything better to feed a dog or cat. I kill a lot of deer I use it all & my friends & family & pets eat very well

From: Greyfox
Date: 13-Jan-18




Meat hunter here.. Deer, turkey, duck and rabbit mostly. Quit killing and eating squirrel, don't see quail anymore. Got 1 turkey and 2 deer in 2017. Had deer chillie last night and crappie Wednesday night. All is good.

From: White Falcon
Date: 13-Jan-18




About in the same boat. I make jerky out of mine. I bet they will eat that.

From: ground hunter
Date: 13-Jan-18




My heart surgeon told me one thing,,,, eat all the wild game you want, stay away from grocery store beef, and pork and some chicken, once in awhile.................

I got 2 deer from friends so far, and I am raising heck with the squirrels at the house, they are all in the freezer, ha ha....

Dan in MI, put out a good post,,,,, I can tell you a lot of vegans are becoming what they call paleos, in that they will eat wild game, and that has brought them over to understanding hunting, and what it means for conservation....

Wisconsin Public Radio just had a show on that,,,,,,,

I do not eat, what I trap, but I do not waste it either, in that it is used, for the dogs, and other baits

From: greyrider
Date: 13-Jan-18




I hunt because I love deer meat, always looking for a big racked buck but a good juicy doe works to. Between my son, wife and I we try to get 6 deer a year after that my brother who had a heart attack and can't go hunting anymore and loves deer get a couple. But by late season my favorite time to hunt we have all the deer we need I seem to pass on a lot of deer. But it's still fun to hunt and always someone wanting deer. Keeping the deer numbers in check on all the farms we hunt for the farmers not to have to much crop damage so everyone is happy means taking deer. If not by hunters that eat them than farmers have to get conservation to come in and kill them and leave them lay. That happens a lot on big farms that lease to trophy hunters.

From: TrapperKayak
Date: 13-Jan-18




I pretty much won't shoot something if Im not going to eat it. That doesn't include coyotes. But Ive only shot one coyote in my life. I shot a bobcat for the pelt. Felt obligated to eat some though so I cooked some lean steak and ate it. It was okay, but I could not get past it being a 'cat', so I could not enjoy it. I have eaten alot of different kinds of animals, more than I ever thought I would. As for deer, if I shoot it, it msans I have a need fo it to be in the freezer. I don't shoot any big game unless I need it. Not shooting for someone else unless they are unable to go themselves. I will help someone out in need, but won't party hunt. I.e., shoot a deer for someone hunting with me has a tag for, nor do I want anyone shooting on my tag.

From: Buckwheat
Date: 13-Jan-18




I do eat everything that I kill. I do end up making a lot of it into Jerky because that is the best way for most of my family will eat it. I do butterfly out the backstraps for my son and I. I am not opposed though if someone shoots something and doesn't eat it, as someone mentioned earlier, there are a lot of people that could use the meat. I don't like to see it wasted however.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 14-Jan-18




So gf would leave it in the woods? (Not kill the deer). He doesn't like to kill deer like I do then. Lol. I always have people that want it.

From: BlacktailBowhunter
Date: 14-Jan-18




I can easily eat an entire deer myself.

From: unhinged
Date: 14-Jan-18




Just think, if people did not kill anything they would not eat, it would put an end to War and Murder. Then we would only have to worry about Cannibals and Zombies.

From: Mike Mecredy
Date: 14-Jan-18




Right. In fact a month or so back, I killed a young jack rabbit thinking it was a cottontail, (low light, in some brush, and I'm new to the area and it wasn't the breed of jack I was used to seeing) Anyhow, I cleaned it and ate it. I made green chile with the boned meat. It wasn't great, but it wasn't wasted either.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 14-Jan-18




I've shot ground hogs I havny eaten either.,but someting ate em

From: Shawn
Date: 14-Jan-18




Sorry but sometimes animals need to be killed but at all costs they should not be wasted. Again though, I hunted a bow only area in the early 90's that had so many deer the deer were starving during even relatively mild winters. I killed as many as 17 deer in a year for a few years in a row. I gave the meat away, I used the dead deer as bait to trap fox, I turned the hides into the VA(made gloves and such from the tanned hides) and used the bones to let the dogs naw on!! I like to kill deer and make no bones about it, but I always make sure it gets used in some way and is never "wasted"!! Shawn

From: cobra
Date: 16-Jan-18




I am a meat hunter and proud of it. Before the internet, I amassed a large collection of Wild Game Cookbooks, and still enjoy paging through them for different ideas. The recipes are diverse and include deer, rabbit, squirrel, pheasant, duck, geese, grouse, bear.... When it comes to antlers, I do not have a passionate opinion either way. Same with QDM practices, private food plots, and on and on. To each their own. I enjoy everything from buying and making ready the tools that are used in the hunt; becoming proficient with these tools of harvest; and everything that relates to the taking of game cleanly...and caring for it from field to table. To me, these are the many aspects of being a "meat hunter." I have expressed it in other threads, but taking an animal from fish to bird, deer to squirrel to bear, and enjoying a great meal at the end of the day, is what it is all about. Antler porn? To me its just that. Porn. And usually an equal amount of ego and competitive drive. I never learned to score antlers- wasn't important to me to be able to say "I have a 170 180 200 on the wall." But I should respect the person who feels differently and has the skills, commitment and dedication to achieve that goal. If he butchered the animal himself and also took pride in making meals for family and friends, he has just risen in my estimation of character. Meat hunters is where it all started. Its the heart of the thing. Tradition. The Cardinal rules I learned were gun safety and "do not shoot something you do not intend to eat." If it were otherwise, then yes, like it or not, we would be just as satisfied going to the woods armed with a camera. My father has been to Africa three times on a "Photographic Safari." Who am I to say whether it was $$ well spent? I know what I would have brought...

From: cobra
Date: 16-Jan-18

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I suggest one free book given with each purchase of a bow, firearm or box of ammo

From: limbwalker
Date: 16-Jan-18




What Shawn said.

Hunters gonna hunt. I've taken 5 deer already this year and still have three landowner tags (does) and will probably help a buddy fill two more on his property, for population reduction.

I'm happy to do it and the meat will all go to families that will be grateful to get it. It takes me about 15 minutes to quarter out a deer and put the quarters, backstraps and tenderloins in the cooler. Most people can deal with a shoulder or hind quarter or a backstrap. If they can't, I can always bone it out and have sausage made. Nobody I know turns down deer sausage. LOL

From: BigOzzie
Date: 16-Jan-18




I believe in killing for entertainment.

Venison is not a popular staple around my house. Therefore I am not pressured to kill deer and fill the freezer. This allows me to trophy hunt most of the year. I trophy hunt from september opener until thanksgiving week, then I break out a boom stick and try to kill anything legal for the meat.

I have killed multiple deer in one year, and found that if I make hamburger jerky the relatives love it as Christmas gifts. I also have a couple of neighbors that live on wild game and are not the most proficient hunters, they are alway willing to take anything processed or not.

In summary, We utilize all the meat, but do not crave the meat. Thus reducing the stress of I have to kill one by the end of season, if I don't get one oh well. Therefore I can incorporate trophy hunting into my hunting hobby, and yes I hunt/kill for the sport of it. I have found many an animal that plays the game well and has beaten me.

the wolves are kicking my #$% at this game, I know where they live and travel, and am still zero kill in 3 years of trying to get one. I love the sport of it.

oz





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