This morning at our little Christian church I could not remember the name of one of you who asked for prayer, so when we had requests for prayer I explained my predicament and our pastor advised us to include all of Leatherwall in our prayer service. I explained that a lot of our trad family are up in years or have family members with issues. As our pastor said, God knows our members and praying for Leatherwall will bless all of us, but especially those who are hurting. Leatherwall is now on our prayer list.

Thankyou very much Lawdy. We can use all the prayers we get.

That's wonderful of you. My wife can use the prayers as well.

Thank you. I really appreciate it. George

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Thank you

Thank you lawdy.

Thank you! I need all the help I can get!

Thank y’all

Wonderful thank you

That is wonderful,,,, God spared my life on Oct 6th, my Christmas gift,,,, I am so grateful, it is hard to put into words,,,,,,, I will pray for everyone, and hope I am deserving of his blessings,,,,,,

I will try now and give back as much as I can

Prayer is a powerful thing. I was really in need of it 3 years ago. I'm always greatfull for the prayers of others.

we thank you and your church robert! GOD BLESS!

Thanks! Always helps.

Rather, there seem to be basically no positive correlation...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studies_on_intercessory_prayer

Dauid,prayers to the Lord does not mean that he always gives us what we want.

I know there's power in prayer. Sometimes he says no, I know this first hand, but often times he uses doctors or miracles.

I know I'm thankful for the prayers of others.

I'm just a rationalist...if praying led to higher survival rates, I too would pray when faced with a serious illness.

I don't want to offend my religious friends, so I won't comment more. I'd rather not have religious discussions on an archery site and many others may feel the same way. I'm sure we all do what we think gives the best chance for a favorable outcome.

Thank you, Robert. Much appreciated!

>>>"I'd rather not have religious discussions on an archery site"<<<

Then don't click on the threads. Its really that easy.

Thank you so much. This really means so much to so many. When we need help and feel alone, this site is so comforting. Many folks here simply have no where else to turn. God Bless all of you. Richard

Ditto, DarrinG

Not a discussion David, and nothing to do with religion, just faith and asking for a blessing. Gifted with free will we can accept or reject it. As a traditional archer, I rely a lot on faith when I let an arrow go at a deer as I am using only my brain God gave me. Plus, how can one sit in the woods on a silent snowy evening with a stick and sting in your lap, look around you, and not marvel? My wife an I sat together last night with her hoping to get a deer. I was just a spectator. It started to snow and with us way up in a cut, hiding in a little thicket, we could actually hear the snow fall. Another blessing.

Then David A. don't open threads that obviously are asking for prayer if they offend you. I have experienced many answers to prayer in my own life, family life, and ministry and have seen the Lord do amazing things. But as said above, God doesn't always give us what we want. "If we ask anything ACCORDING TO HIS WILL we know that He hears us, and if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions we have asked of Him" I John 5:14-15.

Some say answers to prayer are "coincidences". I recently read a quote from a bishop from the past--"When I pray, coincidences happen. When I don't, they don't."

Amen prayer is the direct link to the Lord! He wants us to ask we should never fear asking for individuals or blanket prayers because the wings of angles spread out and cover us at all. There's many who don't ask that are fearful to call attention to themselves that need prayers and thoughts and hopes from us all.

Lord watch over us all we need your protection every one of us we are in uncertain times and others are out there like roaring lions trying to pull us down as well as discredit us.

You alone silence them and fight our battles though they rage on like the winds that blow so freely.

Amen

Thank You!!!!!

I'll take prayers whenever I can receive them. Thank you!

thank you, we should all pray for the folks on the leatherwall everyday, thank you for the idea. I am worried about some of the folks on the wall though, we are all going to judgement day so be ready folks.

>>>"I'd rather not have religious discussions on an archery site"<<<

"Then don't click on the threads. Its really that easy."

I will comment on that, this thread was not asking for prayers, from the subject line it posed the topic of prayers which seemed to be asking for opinions vs. asking for prayers for particular person. I courteously gave my opinion, and I respect those who are religious - at least those who are not killing others of a different religion.

After all, my g.f. Maria was muslim. But then she liked archery, hunting and fishing being from the Dyak tribe in Indonesia. Religion was never a problem...and she also gave a little prayer before every meal. No problema...

Thank you so much. We ALL need prayers, even those who thought this was an "opinion" Thread.

Thank you!!!! We can never have too much prayers!!!

Yes, the title seemed to pose a query, but a title can mean many different things. I have no objection to prayer as affirmation of positive living. I sort of wonder about it as a wish list type of thing...so I researched it a little and there seems to be little or no correlation with health improvement. Some studies even showed a negative correlation. Perhaps the explanation in those cases is that the control group which didn't pray, pursued other avenues more diligently such as pursuing different treatments, better doctors, etc.

Perhaps somewhat analogous as to the best course of action when your car breaks down and your survival is at risk.

Here's two scenes from a "don't let go movie". At the end, who is the astronaut whispering "thank you" to? A god, or her rational co-astronaunt who taught her to never ever give up on being in charge of your survival no matter how bad the odds. Did mankind emerge out of humble beginnings because of direction by a god or by our own never give up efforts? It's been a long journey, step by step and now here we are...

https://youtu.be/d6sk3HudM4k

https://youtu.be/JwtPePJpjpE

Something to think about...

i will pray for you tonight.

I will comment neither pro nor con on the topic at hand except to say that I can commiserate with lawdy on sitting out while it's snowing and actually hearing the snow as it lands. An awesome experience.

Thank you. I appreciate all prayers. Last year my wife's eye surgeon knelt and prayedbefore her surgery. God bless you and your church group. Kenny

Lawry,thank you. A very nice gesture.

My prayer is for all of those that are in need and especially for those who have never received his free gift of salvation.

Who doesn't need prayer now and then? I know I do, and I feel a sense of comfort when I have those conversations.

One of the greatest gifts given to mankind is that of free will. Unfortunately, it's often used poorly. If you're a believer (I am) fine. If not, your choice. Ultimately, our questions will be answered.

I take no offense to the prayer requests posted here. And while I've never done so personally, I offer in the name of the needy.

I agree God doesn't necessarily give us what we want, but I feel he does to what we need.

I've experienced enough in my life to not doubt.

Thank you!

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"free gift of salvation" - at the low price of one's critical faculties/rationality. It's non negotiable. My rationality is not for ransom. Relevant to ill health, or any life threatening circumstances, it is the last thing I would want to surrender.

Arguably our brains evolved in large part for precisely this function. To overcome dire circumstances. We are here today as survivors of a long and largely forgotten history of such challenges stretching back to when our distant ancestors struggled from water to mud to higher ground...

Religion itself has also evolved into thousands of forms and indeed may increase survivability in dire circumstances such as by adding group cohesion, reducing stress, etc....so I certainly do not argue religion is necessarily just about power and money as many do.

I guess everyone is either mad at me or praying for me...well, frankly it is all very interesting.

David, we are free to believe what we choose. I dont believe in pushing any faith on anyone. But sadly those that choose to to believe will face the truth one day.

Honestly, I dont have enough faith to believe in evolution, especially we we look at how delicate and precise, complex the creation is. I hope you have a safe and successful rest of the season, I plan on doing sone huntingthis month.

Lawdy, thanks again for the prayers.

Lol, I just aint going to get this typing down on this phone. Sorry for the typo.

mad were not, praying we are.

I pray to give thanks. I remind myself to do that especially when things are rough.

God always knows what we need, or want or imagine that we need... when and if the time is right.

....so...thanks for Leatherwallers ;-)

TG, independently of the complex question of whether there are gods or a god that might listen to some (!), this non belief in evolution says it all. You might as well argue for flat earth. I can only imagine what rationalists must go thru every day in less educated countries.

Now I understand why the lord sent the uneducated to teach the educated. I truly feel sorry for you. I will keep praying for you.

Tree, that attitude is so similar to ISIS. They absolutely know they're right and everyone else should believe their book. Thank goodness for rationalism, albeit always under attack from one sect or another.

And thank goodness we live in the age of science even though it may not totally answer all the questions of inquiring minds.

Davis, you choose not to believe...that's sad but it is your choice. I simply could not believe in evolution or a random chance theory. Real science verifies a creator ,imo. We humans are the only creation of God's design that does not function as he created us to. Anyway, I will leave the thread to it's OP original intent.

Stay safe and happy hunting.

When people imply evolution is random chance theory, it just shows they know absolutely nothing about evolution, which is the opposite of random chance.

A little girl was born to a friend of mine. Her name is Arielle. She was born with a very aggressive brain tumor. The doctors tried six times to remove it at Boston's Childrens Hospital, but they were unsuccessful and told Liz, my teaching colleague that Arielle had one month to live. All the churches up here were holding prayer services for Arielle. They did an MRI to monitor the tumors growth and called Liz and Phil in for the results. Liz sat there distraught and the doctors told her and Phil to start saving for college. Liz was puzzled and thought they were joking when the head surgeon told them, "the tumor is gone. We have no explanation." "Call it a miracle, but every so often this happens." Arielle is now a very active healthy 6 year old. Go on Google and type in Arielle's Song, Bob Lord, and you will hear the song I wrote and performed for Arielle, along with the story of her miracle. I choose to believe and definitely believe in prayer and will continue to do so, because we all need it. Being an instinctive shooter involves a lot of prayer sometimes.

Thank you for proving my point , you can believe any way you would like it is america, you seem to be the only one upset that everyone does not believe like you (like ISIS does). I will keep praying for you to find happiness in your heart and except Jesus Christ as your Lord and savoir. Thank you Lawdy, for your and your churches prayers i can use all the prayers i can get, lord knows i'm not perfect.

That is a wonderful Story Lawdy, and thank you Jesus for that wonderful blessed healing.

ISIS is founded on a religion. Science is founded on facts. The fact is evolution is based on natural selection, which is the opposite of chance. In the future, omit this error from your argument and it won't be so obvious you don't understand evolution.

Really, your fall back position should be "ok, evolution occurs" but God is directing it." That would be a lot harder to argue against. For starters, it would shift the debate from evolution which is proven, to something which is difficult to prove or disprove. Then, you can just declare it's a matter of faith and both sides would perhaps respect each other more.

Arguing evolution doesn't occur is just flat earth thinking in the 21st Century. Even the Catholic Church has thrown in the towel and acknowledges evolutionary creation and specifically states in various Catholic revisions that beings evolve.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_and_the_Catholic_Church

Catholics and other denominations are of course free to believe whatever they want, but really this debate is no the big deal it was when Darwin wrote the Origin of Species. It's over for all practical purposes.

I'll keep praying for your salvation.

Certainly, some of us think prayer is magic...pray in order to get something. That may be more popular for some white churches, whereas black churches seem to put more energy into giving thanks.

Further, there's a difference between belief and faith...some Christian churches make that distinction.

As a matter of fact, religion isn't central to faith, or even to belief for many.

Getting isn't the goal of prayer for everybody.

My thanks to you, your pastor and the other folks at your church. I'm very happy to hear that Arielle is doing so well. Thank God.

Very nice of you

Lawdy, I just watched the video of baby Arielle and listened to your song, that is such a wonderful story, and a nice song that came from your heart. The power of prayer is truly awesome. Be blessed

lawdy, that is a great story. Thank God that Arielle is doing well. That s a kind gesture for your church to offer prayers for us all. George

Thanks! As you said, God already knows, and your church's keeping us in your prayers is greatly appreciated. God and Christ Bless

That is awesome, Thank You. John

I sincerely wish good health and prosperity to all LWers....I truly do.

Thanks lawdy! Appreciate the prayers.

Hope everyone is improving or finding peace on the leatherwall prayer list. If every Christian on this site mentions leatherwall at their services, we will be a powerful voice.

Thank You Lawdy!!!. " But for the grace of God go us all" TLM

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