I'm just glad the guy did not miss a deer with that bow... LOL

That's just crazy what he did with that bow. You run outta arrows, just hit the deer over a head with the bow. LOL Thanks for vid.

People have tough truck guns that can get mocked around and not worry about them. I think this could be a nock around bow! Wonder how the limbs would hold up in a truck can in summer in TX? If it can handle that, that would be awesome!

looks like the Jeffery "black raven" nice looking bow

Yep, that guy should be reported for bow abuse. I have seen some photos of Black Swan bows drawn by machine to ridiculous draw lengths that would not seem possible.

What would have to do to void warranty? LOL

At one time, one manufacturer here in the US, maybe Bear, would pull the bow until the string came off. I think folks nowadays don't realize how tough most laminated bows are, especially younger archers who are not familiar with the history of the bow here in the US. Great looking bow and obviously put together pretty well.

To void the warranty, you would have to leave the bow unused

I don't see the big deal. That looks like the average day in the woods with my bows. :')

I have that bow and it shoots as well as some of my longbows at 1/3 the cost. Twig Archery- Black Hunter and Lancaster Archery- Galaxy. I believe there's 2 for sale in the classifieds.

"This is a $200 bow folks. I wonder how many bows costing 2, 3, 4 or 5 times as much could stand up to the same type of abuse?"

Of course that isn't necessarily the relevant question. If you pay extra, part of the whole reason is to get higher performance. If your bow company sells bows, as Bear did, as wadding staffs, something might be there that doesn't need to be there, and the low hanging fruit is to take it out and up the performance.

Another reason for high prices is to sort out the hack owners who will want to do something like that to a bow, or won't know how to string a Black Widow, or what arrows to use. You make them a better product, and simultaneously sort of the hack archers. Of course, you really competent archers can also take home the bacon with a cheap bow, or whatever.

Speaking of Bear, they had a machine that tested bows inside a cage by repeatedly drawing and releasing them. It would run hundreds of cycles. The idea that a bow is destroyed by a dry fire, at least a composite bow, is far from always true.

What the heck was that place. Makes my workshop look like a convent. I kept expecting some guy with a chainsaw and a hokey mask to come bursting out and saw the bow tester in half. He would of course have his own cameraman filming his test of the 200 dollar chainsaw.

I hope that kind of testing doesn't catch on. Knife ownership has become a process of buying knives to destroy them. Writers dreamed up tests that were supposed to illustrate sterling knife qualities, as did others like the ABS. Guess what, a whole new generation of users thinks that is what owning a knife is about.

Pretty impressive!

Black Widow used to put an ma2 limb tip on the floor backside down and stand on it till the recurve was flattened to the floor. They would then bend the bow upwards past 90 degrees to show their durability.

People figure a high price means somehow better, either in duranility or performance when actually neither is the case in most instances. Usually higher price means your name and weight at your draw written on it, plus prettier.

HI guys. about that bow I can say that in my company five guys have bought one of that bow. two recurve and three longbow configuration. the bows came with dacron string but oviusly my friends have change in fast fly. after two or three mouth all bows it is broken on the limb after the fade. This is my esperience with that " bows"!

I wouldn't pay 200 for that bow. Gotta be all scratched up not to mention the holes sawed into both limbs.

Bowmania

That's kind of user failure, not necessary bow failure Italy. When it is for Dacron, use Dacron.

I agree whith you Draven, but that's what happened...

If I could translate, "I am a terrible shot, I have terrible form and I have terrible TP. I hate myself and I hate my bow. I want to kill my bow and get a pellet gun."

When I was at the Bear museum in Gainesville, they had a bow on display which was, I think, a Grizzly, from years ago. They had tested the bow by dry firing with a machine an incredible number of times--it was in the thousands--with no harm to the bow.

yes its too scratched up for me,, I wouldnt pay 50 for it,,:)

I don't see how you can dry fire the bow several times, saw cut both limbs down the middle and then dry fire it some more, beat it against a telephone pole repeatedly and then dry fire it again several times -

but a "fast flight" string will harm it.

And we wonder what happened to the price of used bows? We get a little lifting splinter and have to discard them. Tough bow, I bet the speed is close to most bows also.>>>----> Ken

Was just out back shooting mine. 45# w/longbow limbs. I draw it to maybe 27"s. It sends a 15-35 with 145 up front, like right now!

Smooth draw and zero vibration.

Not much for buying a bow without having it in my hands first but I may have to order that one with longbow limbs and give it a try. If I don't like it I can always pass it one to one of the grand kids.. I looked at Lancaster's and it appears to be the same bow.

I don't need another take down, but I like the looks of the one piece longbow and it is less expensive!

Lowcountry, I was thinking the same thing.

Who or Where, From what country is that bow made ?

There's a photo in the archery section of the 1960s Hunters Bible of a Bear recurve bow being overdrawn on a machine, nearly tip to tip if I remember correctly. Yeah, they are just that tough. I sure don't baby my two Grizzlys.

Um... that said my wifes #30 Samick Red Stag delaminated in the garage. Wasn't all that warm in the garage either. I used to store all our bows strung. Don't do that nomo.

I shot that bow in lefty at lancaster, no comparison to my tolkes or holm mades or Liberty, beatin it up like that doesn’t impress me in the least, if that’s what ya want get one !!!

I shot that bow in lefty at lancaster, no comparison to my tolkes or holm mades or Liberty, beatin it up like that doesn’t impress me in the least, if that’s what ya want get one !!!

Just like in fly rods (and I saw this done with fly rods when I was heavily involved in the fly fishing world) if you took 6 bows of similar design of the same draw weight and overall length, and let 100 people shoot all of them, not more than 2 or 3 could tell one from the other, the expensive one from the inexpensive one.

I'll stick with my us made bows even if they cost more. Rick

I'm not sure this thread has anything to do with U.S. made or not. At least not to me.

The point is that many people these days have the idea that a glass laminated bow is fragile, and has to treated in some special way.

They don't. If they are well made, they are extremely durable and tough.

My dad kept a Pearson Cougar with a Kwikee quiver and 5 arrows that he bought in '60's hanging in the truck for literally years. Summer, winter, didn't matter. He carried it countless miles, tossed over fences, in the bottom the boat, waded the creeks and rivers with it, and it was fine.

When I got married, he gave it to my wife (actually she was my fiance at the time) he gave the bow to her, She hunted with it for years until we lost it in a house fire in 2001.

Me to ....

Where does that guy live, Tatooine?

For those of you that may be interested there is a Black Hunter with 2 sets of limbs listed in the classified ads right now.

Damn, I watched the whole thing. That's 5:38 of my life I'll never get back...

So Craig,the information they gave me was wrong,however as long as the bows was inctact,its shoot very well and the riser look like,for sure! God bless!

Black hunter, galaxy and the fleetwood timberridge are all made by the same folks, with interchangeable limbs. I have owned the fleetwood timberridge in longbow since early SEPT and love it. Have hunted, stumped and target shot. Damn fine bow. Shoots so well, i had to order some nock collars to save my arrows. Ive shafted 6 arrows in the last month. I know i need to shoot different bullseyes, but shooting 3 arrow groups are fun, and impressive with this 60" hybrid longbow.

LOL, where are they filming this at, the ISIS recurve bow testing facility in Afghanistan ?

Does anyone know if the Galaxy Ember recurve limbs available at Lancaster are interchangeable with the Black Hunter Hybrid LB riser that you can get from Twig Archery? I don't see where Twig offers recurve limbs for the Black Hunter.

1962 Bear Archery bow test.

Bob Rowlands is that the test you remember.

It's as good as a TimeX watch, takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

I don't require that my bow be that durable nor low priced. But good-on-you if that is what you need. I would like to know more about that bow's shooting performance. I would not give up an ounce of shooting performance or comfort for a pound of incremental durability or lower cost. I am not rich, but price is not an issue for me with bows. I only have a couple and I like to focus on quality. Over time, price fades into the woodwork while quality will be enjoyed for as long has you shoot the bow. I bought what was considered a top of the line custom bow back in '96 for $633 which to many seemed silly. 21 years later, over 210,000 shot later, and 40 something deer taken with that bow, it is worth every cent I paid for it, and leaves me feeling zero need to replace it. If I ever disrespect my precious bow by slamming it against a tree, may the limbs break and wrap around my foolish neck to the point of ending my ability to shoot again! That's just my humble opinion that you can feel free to ignore.

Hey if a $200 imported bow is your thing and it looks as good as you think a bow should look or perform, then it's a bargin.

I'll take that $200 and add a hundred or two more and buy a Brazilian rosewood old Bear. For me, that old Bear will look better and perform just fine.

Everyone's experience is different & totally informs their choices. Budly's post, above, makes all the sense in the world & could be considered "The last word" to an intelligent, neutral observer. Makes sense to me but:

-My experience with costly customs vs. cheap beaters has given me 180 degree, diametrically opposite opinion. My two best, TOTALLY custom jobs, one-of-a- kind to my exact specs, from 2 different famous bowyers of impeccable credentials, (about 3k to replace them today) both delaminated & pulled apart. Not dry-fired, not used as pry bars, not driven over by SUV's or trains. Past warranty, and I wasn't one of the lucky dudes whose bowyers replaced for free anyway- just $h-t out of luck. One of the bowyers promised a future discount on a new one, but still a bank-breaker.

Now I do much better than that bullet proof $200 thing. Most of my bows are well under that, some even under $100. And by the same company in the overdrawn pics above. They have, with or without a lick'n (How do I know how they've been treated over the last 60 years?) kept on tick'n- in fabulous form; better than one of my old customs and almost as good as the other.

If I want to spend more, I'd go with Babbling Bob's choice.

Would make a great bowfishing bow.

This video is amazing. I had a look at the bow on line and it looks pretty doggone good.

I bet cutting slots in the makes it faster.

The problem is, they did not make the slot long enough.

When you buy a unbelievably cheap bow, you can bet the bank that it was built with the cheapest glass, glue and labor that money can buy. Do you really want to trust your eyes that it will hold together.

I like pretty custom bows as much as anyone, but there's something to be said for a plain cheap bow that you don't have to worry about getting a scratch or ding on it. J

"When you buy a unbelievably cheap bow, you can bet the bank that it was built with the cheapest glass, glue and labor that money can buy. Do you really want to trust your eyes that it will hold together."

There are a lot of reasons why one product costs more than another. Sometimes even the same product costs more from one seller than another. Quality may not be necessarily one them.

Ditto of Castojr.

jim c. had 2 sets of hoyt expensive limbs blow up. also a set of greenhorns and a set of seb flute ult pros. so go figuire. how many border limbs have gone bad?

I will never own those cheap overseas made bow only American for me that's why I love my trad techs !!!

Built with the cheapest glass and glue money can buy. You buy the cheapest you get what you pay for. Safety googles are pretty cheap, buy a pair and wear them when you shoot.

I have owned only custom traditional bows for the past 35 years. Bighorn (Asbel), Black Widow, Blacktail, Schafer, Tall Tines, Robertson, Wes Wallace, Centaur, Great Plains, Rose Oak Creations, Chastain, Dale Dye, Whippenstick, etc. and shot numerous others.

I recently purchased the Galaxy Ember with 50# longbow limbs from Lancaster and it is a very well made bow. The limbs have bamboo cores and black glass back and belly. They are compatible with the new string material with very nicely fashioned limb tips. The limbs fit the riser very nicely with some very slight over run on the upper limb of the one I have, but it is only very slight and cosmetic only. The riser is very nicely fashioned and finished. I have spent a few days shooting it and in all honesty it shoots as well as any of my custom bows. It is very smooth and shoots where you point it.

All my other bows are recurves and I was wanting a nice take down longbow so I thought I would give this little bow a shot. In my opinion it is well worth it's $199.98 price and if made in the USA would cost at least twice as much or more, but then the material to build the bow would cost twice as much or more as well. This is a top notch entry bow for those wanting to get into traditional archery. Personally I like it better than the Samick Sage but it is a little more expensive than the Sage. I will probably get the recurve limbs also so I can have both recurve or longbow.

"I will never own those cheap overseas made bow only American for me that's why I love my trad techs !!!"

But I bet you don't mind your Asian made phone and computer.

Not all Asian made stuff is inferior and junk, but I do understand. We are blessed with an abundance of new and old American made bows, in all price ranges. Shoot what you like.

it was a joke geez

trad techs are made overseas I've owned hundreds of customs literally after all the bows iv'e settled on ILF risers mainly black onyx risers and a variety of differint limbs great time to be a traditional archer

I think I'm going to buy one just to see.

I have a Greatree longbow and a Samick recurve that I shoot very well. I see no difference in performance with my expensive customs.

Are the bamboo core limbs standard on the Ember from LAS?

Is the handle different from the recurve and longbow.

I was intrigued and started doing a little googling to find more info about the bow and who makes it. I came to Alibaba in China and found a bow by Linyi Junxing Sports Equipment Co., Ltd. The bows are sold under the company name Big Rock or Black Hunter and the model# 171 for the recurve and 172 for the longbow. Pricing is as low as $80 a piece when buying in bulk. I found a price of $130 when buying 10 pieces. Might make a good buy for a club if the bow is as good as you guys are saying. Here are two links to the recurve and the longbow.........

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/F171-wood-recurve-bow- takedown-bow_60523359470.html? spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.120.39c65b0d9EKwpQ

.......

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/F172-RH-LH-black- hunter-big_60674241190.html? spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.60.39c65b0d9EKwpQ

Here's another seller that has the longbow for $100 a piece when you buy 6 of them.

https://message.alibaba.com/msgsend/draftPo.htm? spm=a2700.details.maonnacta.dorder.3522d07sAB9Cx&productId=60528 654470&id_f=IDX1YpIsNVIDeuULpwE8SsLewJ- xC4hMsNfGwzNAGhlXXvS98sGZg1GT0W96WhV9wTSx&mloca=po_en_detail&tra celog=from_detail

Twisted Branch,

As far as I know they are. I believe the video states as much but can't remember for certain. That was one of the reasons I purchased the bow was because the limb cores were advertised as being bamboo.

Thanks Straitshot. Finally had time to research a little bit and found it. One supplier had the boo limbs as an additional purchase.

I've abused 20 or more recurves and longbows, and have yet to have one come apart... some of these bows were 30 years or more old when I bought them.....but I did have a Matthews compound limb delaminate hanging in my garage. Was an older used Matthews and they replaced the limbs free.

Today I shot Bob Hildenbrands Gallaxy Ember longbow at the Strictly Sticks shoot. Indoor range, 12yd or so. First time I ever touched this bow.

I emptied my quiver of ten 1916's and could not believe the results. Perhaps the tightest group I ever shot! At least five were touching, one nock busted!

I have NEVER shot a bow so well so quickly. Truly impressive longbow!

I reluctantly handed it back to Bob. Then I tried to repeat the group with my one piece Sage. I busted another nock but there was a little more air between the arrows. :)

The economical Asian bows are my new favorite thing.

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