From: Cameron Root
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Date: 16-Nov-17 |
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I did a trade for this bow knowing it was stuck together. After talking with Jerry Hill about it he was sure it would come apart as he felt the connection system was the best of its time. I could feel I fine hair of movement. So I put it in my vise and give it a wack. Cleaned the connection and I now have an awesome take down. Rooty
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 16-Nov-17 |
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I am now inspired to get the rest of it cleaned up and a couple touch ups. Rooty
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From: mangonboat
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Date: 16-Nov-17 |
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They are awesome bows. Quiet as a ghost, too.
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From: Knifeguy
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Date: 16-Nov-17 |
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Rooty, You're gonna love it. Lance.
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From: Hal9000
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Date: 16-Nov-17 |
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Papadoc has a couple of those bows and I have studied that connection. Looks like the slide out part was made smaller than needed for the sleeve. Then placed in the socket and injected with something to fill the voids for a perfect fit?
If that's how its done, I wonder if they had a jig to hold both limbs in perfect alignment till the filler set.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 16-Nov-17 |
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It's almost a metal. I rubbed the bottom with a file. It's something like that as even the seam in the socket is in the male tang. Rooty
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From: Knifeguy
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Date: 16-Nov-17 |
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Cameron, Just noticed the 65# on yours. I feel like such a weenie! Mines only 59#! LOL! Let us know what you think. Lance.
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From: Hal9000
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Date: 16-Nov-17 |
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papadocs is not metal... hmm?
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From: Buzz
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Date: 16-Nov-17 |
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As above........mine 959 is a mere #47.
Enjoy your new/old bow.
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From: Jeff Durnell
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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Looks like babbitt metal, used more years ago to cast into bearings and their running surfaces. We still use it some today in the mill.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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I am not sure it is metal. It's metal like. Going to call the the Benz. Will be a take along with my KTM motorcycle. Going to have to make a jingle.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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Lance at my draw we will be similar. Rooty
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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Lance at my draw we will be similar. Rooty
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From: bodymanbowyer
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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Looks like a old filler called alumalead. It was a filler used rust repair years ago, a lead replacement before Bondo came out. Alumalead,It was a strange material to use. JF
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From: bodymanbowyer
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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Looks like a old filler called alumalead. It was a filler used rust repair years ago, a lead replacement before Bondo came out. Alumalead,It was a strange material to use. JF
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From: alex1987
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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Oh, you lucky swine! ;)
That is a Ben Pearson takedown... I've just managed to get one too, but not in as nice condition as yours. These are from the late 50's.
I have the 5ft 6 version and yours is 5ft 9...
I am just getting used to mine.. .Wonderful bow, with the slimmest take-down grip I have used... It beats all the modern day ones.
Alex
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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Pearson made a bunch of those as they were touted as being handy to stick in your back quiver. They are great bows, and can be a bear...as Rooty alluded to to get apart. One thing for folks to remember when doing that is it is the top limb that seats in to the rest of the bow; so if you are bracing it with a vise to pull it apart, make sure you are doing the proper end or you may pull the house off the foundation first.
They were made in both recurve and longbow, and several different lengths. I'm sure there are more out there and they are generally in great shape since most are probably in closets or basements when the owner went to a recurve, or later a compound. Many show little use other than some light marks on the side plates and some grip wear. Awesome bows.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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Well it has my attention now. I am going to make a Rhino string for it a let er Rip. Rooty
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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Rhino will make a new bow out of that one. I'm shooting FF on my 1972 Browning and it takes it to another level.
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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You started me doing it George than Barbee took me to where I am now. Thanks for that and more . Rooty
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From: dean
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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many many moons ago, I picked one of those up at a house auction for $2, a 45 pounder, it came with a beaded back quiver, an arm guard, an assortment of tabs and a couple of old Bear shooting gloves, and an odd assortment of of several dozen arrows, but no string. I bought a bow string from Charley Bledsoe in Sioux Falls, drew it back a few times. While there I checked the spine of the arrows, they were all in the low 40s. Then headed out to the shoot at the Walton League. While there I met a guy and his young son hanging out. He asked me if I ever heard of a guy named Howard Hill, he had been to an event that showed old films and it got him interested. I thought the kid looked familiar, I had rented films from Jerry Hill and showed them to bunch of people. I handed him the whole works. Somebody else a had a fiberglass kid bow and a bunch of kid arrows for them. I never shot the bow. How do they shoot?
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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Will figured if out And report back. Rooty
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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Got the string done. 14 strands of Rhino 2 up from my usual as I didn't want to pad for nock fit. Oooooooh Yyyyyyyea. Very nice. 26" of tail nock tapered surewood 55/60. Maybe a tic stiff. French hill curve at the rudder. Pretty slick outfit. Rooty
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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This is a big improvement from the 66" ff endless loop string I had on it. After taking measurements of the string, bow, brace height I decided on a 67" string. Ended up with 6-1/4 brace height. Sure seams good as I spined the 2 arrows from each string 50# on 27" for ff 60# on 26" for Rhino. Tuning has just begun. Rooty
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 17-Nov-17 |
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I am sold on the feel of maple in a long bow. Rooty
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From: alex1987
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Date: 18-Nov-17 |
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What do you think the female connection system is made of? Its very light and doesn't seem like a steel tube..??? Alex
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 18-Nov-17 |
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Tail pipe. It's steel and he had an exhaust shop. Rooty
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 18-Nov-17 |
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You might be able to see a hint of rust in there
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 18-Nov-17 |
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Going to try the left hand side. Rooty
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From: alex1987
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Date: 18-Nov-17 |
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Rooty,
Are you teasing me? I know nothing about building bows, so you could tell me anything...
Do you mean Ben Pearson had an auto shop and they did the take downs system?
So they used exhaust pipe metal? It does not seem very strong... Do you have any idea of the process?
Its a bloody good system as they've lasted 60 yrs or so.. I really admire it and prefer it to the fibre glass takedowns you see these days...
Why did no-one continue this system if it used such ordinary items as body filler and exhausts?
I like mine alot, although it keeps getting stuck together and I have to figure out what to use inside so the joint doesn't lock together... Its only very occasionally...
Cheers Alex
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 18-Nov-17 |
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My info comes from Jerry Hill he thinks it's a great system . Hes told me a lot about Pearsons genius. Production skills were amazing along with tooling from other ventures. I know nothing other than what I've been told. I've had couple Bama take downs, one black widow plx. To me this way cool and works great. I put a skim of bees wax mixed with coconut oil. Rooty
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From: Cameron Root
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Date: 18-Nov-17 |
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I will be shooting this for awhile as it really has my interest. I'll be shooting French Curve Fletcher arrow. Which Pearson made for Howard Hill.
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From: alex1987
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Date: 19-Nov-17 |
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Well, then I take your word for it.. .Its seemed a little fanciful, so I thought you were just teasing.. :)
I am completely taken by mine and only wished someone produced something similar these days. As I want a recurve version..
I, too, have had other 2 pc bows and the onlyone that comes close is the Kramer Autum bow. Its grip is almost as slim.
I will be redoing the leather shortly, but I think even that has been done differently. Its looks like it was presewn before it wa put on...
Thanks for the tip with regard to the oil... I'll give it a go... Cheers Alex
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