From: mangonboat
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Date: 25-Sep-17 |
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I shoot a lot of old arrows, mostly Micro Flite,some Dura Flite, Kodiak, Farbenglas other fiberglass and older aluminum. My First Shot for the weekend, last evening, involved a nock failure on release. One side/ tab of an old speed nock broke off and created a nice welt just behind the corner of my mouth. More worrisome, it was something approaching a dry fire with a 1961 Gordon>Browning Explorer prototype, my go-to bow. Inspection of my face and the bow revealed no other damage, so I nocked up another arrow.
The second shot produced the same result! This was a different shaft and different brand and shape of nock, but it was also 50+ years old. This time the nock split in half and one half apparently hit my lower lip ,producing small tear and a fat lip. Again, inspection revealed a bit of blood but no damage to the bow. The explosion at the rear end of the shaft on release popped the metal insert out of the shaft.
I learned my lesson and will be replacing all those old plastic nocks on my old arrows. My face cant be made noticeably uglier, buy I do want to keep my eyes and my old bows in good working order.
I like Marco and Bohning snap glue-on nocks. Any others folks have good luck with on vintage arrows?
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From: Bob Rowlands
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Date: 25-Sep-17 |
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I like plastic nocks. Good thing Glocks aren't made with that stuff, huh? lol
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From: cueman
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Date: 25-Sep-17 |
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Same results with the old speed nocks as yours. Now I immediately cut them off and replace with bohning classic nocks. I don't even shoot the arrows first. Have had old nocks crumble in my hands while inspecting them.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 25-Sep-17 |
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Had a simular experience a few years ago with some arrows gifted to me. The nocks were the Marco brand and orginal BJ's. Good thing I buy "glue ons" by the hundred. Five doz 2117's puts a dent in a guys supply of nocks.
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From: Bud B.
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Date: 25-Sep-17 |
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Thanks, Mark. Good info. I will be changing mine before trying the Micro-Flites I want to use sometime this season.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 25-Sep-17 |
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Just test them first. I have some old #8 Microflite with Bjorn nocks and they are as good as near new. Some nocks don't age well though so pinch the ends to see if they respond by giving just a bit. If not, then they are likely brittle. You can also just replace them to be safe and replace with your favorite nock.
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From: Mpdh
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Date: 25-Sep-17 |
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Had a friend give me 16 arrows. The nocks looked ok, but I prefer another style, so I installed new ones. Used a type of glue that I'd never tried before, and it didn't work. When shooting, the nock came off at full draw and I dry fired. Should have just kept the old nocks. MP
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From: Jon Stewart
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Date: 25-Sep-17 |
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I would think the "old" glue would get brittle and loose something also. I get old arrows I just strip them down and refletch them anyway including wood arrows.
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From: dean
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Date: 25-Sep-17 |
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Those old hard plastic speed nocks cannot be trusted. Heck, they broke like that in the 60s when they were new.
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From: M60gunner
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Date: 25-Sep-17 |
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Jon, old glue is also an issue. Nocks fall off but do not break. Have had that as well. I used to attribute that to either not enough glue or dirty shaft. I still have a tool to clean off old glue and nock fragments from shaft. It cuts little lines into metal to retain some glue. I still clean the taper with Acetone or Fletch Laq thinner.
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From: Orion
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Date: 25-Sep-17 |
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I always replace nocks on old arrows before I shoot them. Learned that lesson a while ago, too.
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From: truflyer
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Date: 25-Sep-17 |
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I have had the same happen to me. Replace old nocks!
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From: hawkeye in PA
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Date: 25-Sep-17 |
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When I was using glue on nocks on aluminum they got replaced every year. Had bad luck with them coming off when hunting in -0 F. while being shot.
There use to be some real cheap hard plastic speed nocks that cracked easily also. Nocks are cheap compared to carnage they can cause.
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From: KDdog
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Date: 26-Sep-17 |
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Ouch! Speaking of nocks, how does one remove a glued on nock from wood arrows? Cut it off? Break it off? W/O damaging shaft.
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From: Bud B.
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Date: 26-Sep-17 |
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KDdog, with a little heat. Just don't burn the wood! :-)
Very hot water heated in the microwave can help. Just dip the nock only.
Carefully scrape off any excess nock fragments and glue with a knife. Be careful not to disrupt the taper angle.
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From: KDdog
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Date: 26-Sep-17 |
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Thanks Bud B! I was kinda wondering that.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 26-Sep-17 |
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Well, I rechecked those Bjorn nocks on the Microflite arrows and they are stuck like glue...pun intended. I tried twisting them loose to no avail. They are not brittle and shoot fine, so I'm not taking them off. But anyway, being safe is a smart idea so do as you think is right for your arrows. Some of those older nocks tended to get brittle after awhile, particularly some makes of the old speed nocks.
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