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It's in the oven

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Longcruise 05-Aug-17
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Longcruise 05-Aug-17
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bigdog21 05-Aug-17
JamesV 05-Aug-17
The Whittler 05-Aug-17
bigdog21 05-Aug-17
Longcruise 05-Aug-17
Longcruise 06-Aug-17
BATMAN 06-Aug-17
Longcruise 06-Aug-17
Longcruise 06-Aug-17
Longcruise 25-Sep-17
Longcruise 25-Sep-17
Longcruise 25-Sep-17
Longcruise 25-Sep-17
ShadeHaven 25-Sep-17
Bowlim 25-Sep-17
George D. Stout 25-Sep-17
mgerard 25-Sep-17
Longcruise 25-Sep-17
Longcruise 25-Sep-17
Carpdaddy 25-Sep-17
Cameron Root 25-Sep-17
BATMAN 25-Sep-17
George Tsoukalas 26-Sep-17
Longcruise 27-Sep-17
Longcruise 27-Sep-17
Longcruise 27-Sep-17
ShadeHaven 27-Sep-17
Longcruise 27-Sep-17
cobra 27-Sep-17
Robertfishes 27-Sep-17
Bob Rowlands 27-Sep-17
Bob Rowlands 27-Sep-17
Longcruise 28-Sep-17
Longcruise 28-Sep-17
Longcruise 28-Sep-17
Longcruise 28-Sep-17
ShadeHaven 28-Sep-17
Caddo 29-Sep-17
wTk 29-Sep-17
Longcruise 29-Sep-17
Longcruise 26-Oct-17
Longcruise 26-Oct-17
Longcruise 26-Oct-17
Longcruise 26-Oct-17
Barber 26-Oct-17
KDdog 27-Oct-17
Buzz 27-Oct-17
Longcruise 27-Oct-17
KDdog 18-Oct-18
Longcruise 18-Oct-18
Longcruise 18-Oct-18
Sipsey River 18-Oct-18
Pointer 18-Oct-18
4nolz@work 18-Oct-18
KDdog 19-Oct-18
4nolz@work 19-Oct-18
chazz847 19-Oct-18
Longcruise 19-Oct-18
Jinkster 19-Oct-18
Longcruise 19-Oct-18
From: Longcruise
Date: 05-Aug-17

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This one went into the oven a couple hours ago. This will be the first off of this form.

Had some fitting problems during the layup so it could be a wasted materials. Will know later tonight.

From: Longcruise
Date: 05-Aug-17

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From: Longcruise
Date: 05-Aug-17

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From: Longcruise
Date: 05-Aug-17

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Nothing to do with the bow. A cow and calf I saw last weekend.

From: bigdog21
Date: 05-Aug-17




hope it comes out good

From: JamesV
Date: 05-Aug-17




looking good from here, good luck

From: The Whittler
Date: 05-Aug-17




Longcruise, you look kind of young just how long have you been building bows.:-)

From: bigdog21
Date: 05-Aug-17




could that be his helper?

From: Longcruise
Date: 05-Aug-17




Bigdog has it. That's one of my five grandsons. He's my current apprentice. This is a new form and design. The next two off will be for him and his cousin IF all goes well.

Looking for about 45# @28" and 60" long on this one. All based on a SWAG. :)

Shut the oven off and left the bow inside for the night. We'll see how it looks tomorrow.

From: Longcruise
Date: 06-Aug-17




It's out of the oven. Still has some boogers on it but it looks like a good glue up. Some glue got handled onto the tape but nothing is on the glass.

Thanks Jeff for the tip on the frog tape! It comes off easily. It will need to be retaped to work on it but no problem.

Pics later today.

From: BATMAN Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 06-Aug-17




Hope that the BOW is all that You dream of it being!

From: Longcruise
Date: 06-Aug-17

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A couple pictures. No work done today. Did an elk scout and some stump shooting.

About 2.75" of reflex at the full length of 64". Going to finish it shorter probably 60" NTN.

From: Longcruise
Date: 06-Aug-17

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From: Longcruise
Date: 25-Sep-17

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Been a while but it's very close to done. Just final sanding and finish.

From: Longcruise
Date: 25-Sep-17

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Date: 25-Sep-17

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From: Longcruise
Date: 25-Sep-17




Is that Arrow shelf too far above the hand?

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 25-Sep-17




Looks great Longcruise! how wide of a bow is it? almost looks like 1.75"?

From: Bowlim
Date: 25-Sep-17




Looking great!

"Is that Arrow shelf too far above the hand?"

For me that would have been too blocky and high. But the whole drop the arrow to your finger thing was based on the needs of instinctive shooting where people from Fred Bear, to Asbell advocated for an arrow at finger level. If you gap, then you are basically shooting sights, and there is a certain amount of advantage to having the arrow higher for better form at full draw.

So you can play it different ways based on what your needs are.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 25-Sep-17




""Is that Arrow shelf too far above the hand?""....No.

Unless of course you are not comfortable with it that high. I shoot off a rest a lot higher than that. Very nicely done by the way, and that will have some mojo with the grandson helping.

From: mgerard Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 25-Sep-17




like the way your hand sets in the grip. Are you going to radius the shelf at all?

From: Longcruise
Date: 25-Sep-17




Thank you you all for the kind words and opinions.

It is radiused but not very much. The shelf and window are both radiused to a point just above the deepest point in the grip. I guess I'm one of those closer to the hand shooters but I'm inclined to leave this one as is. And, yes, it is a bit bulky and I may go at it some more. Or maybe not.

Got the order in for materials for the two boys and should be getting going on them soon.

There is something a little different about that grip that I want opinions on but it needs another picture. I'll add it later.

From: Longcruise
Date: 25-Sep-17




I use inner tube strips in the prototype stage because it makes it easy to tweak the riser. This will eventually be converted to a fire hose system.

Shade, it's off a 1.5" form. It's 1.4** at the fades but I need to measure to be sure of the exact with. It looks widish cause the limbs narrow down right off the fades to narrow tips. So far it seems The stabilcore has a considerable effect on stability.

From: Carpdaddy
Date: 25-Sep-17




Looking good, I really like the unstrung profile, I'm guessing it will be a good shooter. Please post updates on performance after some testing, I have been thinking on something close to this.

From: Cameron Root
Date: 25-Sep-17




Nice. I do have to do that. Inspired. Rooty

From: BATMAN Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 25-Sep-17




Looking GOOOD! Hope to see the finished bow REAL SOON!

From: George Tsoukalas
Date: 26-Sep-17




Very nice! Jawge

From: Longcruise
Date: 27-Sep-17

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Between the weather and doctor appointments things are going slowly. My "sanding area" is the great outdoors. In fact, most of my work area is outside. :^)

One more light sanding with 320 and it will be ready for finish.

I mentioned that I took some liberties with grip design so here are a couple pictures. This grip somewhat follows the shaping of a Damon Howatt Bandito. The change Is that the index finger also fits above the thumb rest.

From: Longcruise
Date: 27-Sep-17

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From: Longcruise
Date: 27-Sep-17

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I also reduced some of the bulk in the arrow rest. It could probably use more reduction but at this point it's going to be left as is.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 27-Sep-17




Looks awesome, I like the close up shots. Can you post more pics of the riser?

From: Longcruise
Date: 27-Sep-17




Shade, I'll do that. Sitting in the waiting room at the wife's appointment and then it's off to mine. Probably won't be home until 4 or 5.

From: cobra
Date: 27-Sep-17




Very nice. I cant wait to see the finished product.

From: Robertfishes Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 27-Sep-17




Wow! Nice job! Your buddy is gonna love that one.

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 27-Sep-17




Looks real good. NICELY done. Looking forward to the finished bow.

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 27-Sep-17




Also, the curve on those limbs look powerful.

From: Longcruise
Date: 28-Sep-17

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Shade, here are the riser views. Showing off my crappy butt joints!

From: Longcruise
Date: 28-Sep-17

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Date: 28-Sep-17

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Date: 28-Sep-17

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From: ShadeHaven
Date: 28-Sep-17




I think it looks sharp! Nice work

From: Caddo
Date: 29-Sep-17




I think it's looking pretty good! To be honest, looks don't really matter, how it shoots, that's what matters!

LD

From: wTk
Date: 29-Sep-17




Looks good!

From: Longcruise
Date: 29-Sep-17




Caddo, you and I think alike on that score. Hopefully it will perform.

From: Longcruise
Date: 26-Oct-17




It's been a while! Actually, I finished the bow with a reddish brown stain and Tru oil then decided it didn't look right so it was sanded down and redone with natural wood and a clear rattle can finish.

Final draw weight is 41# @28" which is in the desired range. In the end, the design is successful and the next two off for the two boys are already in progress with one small tweak. The tip wedges will be a little longer to extend the potential draw length a smidge and increase the draw weight slightly.

From: Longcruise
Date: 26-Oct-17

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Date: 26-Oct-17

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Date: 26-Oct-17

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From: Barber
Date: 26-Oct-17




Nice job

From: KDdog
Date: 27-Oct-17




Beauty

From: Buzz
Date: 27-Oct-17




Great job.

From: Longcruise
Date: 27-Oct-17




Thanks, folks

From: KDdog
Date: 18-Oct-18




Sorry to rob a thread. I know this is an old one, but I was searching for wTk's posts. This was what came up. Looks like a good one. I have acquired some of his bow forms and riser patterns , tools and sanders, from his widow, Maxine Benson. RIP Galen. I'm hoping I can use some of his forms to build one of his T/D's in the near future. Any information you can give me about him and his bows would be greatly appreciated . I know that one of his risers was an adjustable metal riser that he called the "rat fink". A strange metal contraption where the limbs could be at different angles. Thanks! I'll post pictures of the forms soon. They have some serious curves for a longbow.

From: Longcruise
Date: 18-Oct-18




While Galen posted here, you will probably find more information on the TG bowyer's bench and at tradarcher.com (need to check that url for you).

Hope Maxine is well.

From: Longcruise
Date: 18-Oct-18




This is the url

http://tradarchers.net/forum/index.php

From: Sipsey River
Date: 18-Oct-18




Very nice!

From: Pointer
Date: 18-Oct-18




Looks like a real shooter...congrats!

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 18-Oct-18




What's TG?

From: KDdog
Date: 19-Oct-18




Thanks Longcruise, I'm getting closer to a build, and I will be checking on those other sites soon. Hope the PSE riser worked out for the grandkids. You know what that is Nolz, It's like the TBB , or TBJ magazine, only its an online forum instead.

From: 4nolz@work
Date: 19-Oct-18




There's other forums? Maybe Barbee can post the highlights?

From: chazz847
Date: 19-Oct-18




Looks good, enjoyed your progress.

From: Longcruise
Date: 19-Oct-18




Chad, that PSE is still in progress. Somewhat interrupted by hunting seasons. :)

Have been working on correcting the limb pad angle and think I have at least an experimental solution. Sometime in the next week I'll put it up here as a project.

From: Jinkster
Date: 19-Oct-18




Very nice...and love the offset I'm seeing in the grip.

From: Longcruise
Date: 19-Oct-18




Thanks for the kind words by all.





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