From: Pdiddly
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Date: 29-Jul-17 |
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Some of you asked me to look at Howatt Coronado serial numbers and see if they follow the pattern of Hunters, Hi- Speeds, Diablo's, Monterey's and Ventura's.
I did some research and here are the numbers I found.
HOX 365 ( teal glass)
HOX 558 (teal glass)
HOS 1460
HOS 1662
HOS 1961
HOT 2486 L (teal glass)
HOT 2569
HOA 3974
HOA 4575
HOO 1128
HOO 1416
HOO 1464
HOO 1911
First finding is that the Coronado's follow the same pattern as the rest of the models, using a suffix letter after the model letters, HO, in the case of the Coronado.
Models year letters are:
1963 X
1964 S
1965 T
1966-67 A
1968-69 O
1970-71 P
This model is also a good example to show that, before 1972, Howatt's numbers were sequential for each model and did not reset at the beginning of each year.
My first surprise was this model's debut was in 1963, as can be seen by the X suffix letter. I had thought they were first made much later.
What is very telling is that the 1963-65 Coronado's I found used a beautiful teal coloured glass, which was exactly the same as what was used on a Wasatch bow I once owned that was made around 1963 by Howatt for Wes Hunt, that he re- sold in his shop.
Larry's history indicates that when Howatt changed ownership about that time the new owner decided to stop making bows for Mr. Hunt.
Here's Larry's quote. He was commenting on the year my Wasatch was built. I also attached a picture.
"The latest that it could be is 1962. We stopped building them for Les after Damon sold to Bob Paisley. I had to pass the news to Les at the Northwest Archery Golf Championship. Looks like a 62" hunter base."
Is it possible that perhaps Mr. Paisley decided to market a line of bows similar to that model of Wasatch and the Coronado was the outcome? A riser of wood with no lamination to cut down on labour time, but with limbs of excellent quality, that could be sold for less money?
The Coronado coming out in 1963 the year after the last Wasatch was made is what leads me to this theory.
The fact the glass is the same and there is a signature on the side of the bow is very telling to me, but I hope to hear from Larry.
It also filled the niche for a 60" bow that Howatt did not have until the Super Diablo came out in 1966.
I'll post two more pics of the Wasatch.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 29-Jul-17 |
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Here's the Wasatch's glass and riser...
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 29-Jul-17 |
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Incidentally, this 1962 Wasatch, at 62", was very similar to the same year Hunter.
I don't have a Coronado to post pics of...hope others will.
Thanks Peter
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 29-Jul-17 |
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Sorry...that Hunter above beside the Wasatch was a 1960 with the same teal glass.
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From: ronnickel
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Date: 29-Jul-17 |
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Thanks for opening a Coronado post.
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From: ronnickel
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Date: 29-Jul-17 |
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Got lucky and just found one in great condition.
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From: ronnickel
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Date: 15-Aug-17 |
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Finally shot my "new" Coronado. 38# @ 28" so I had a 10 strand, B-50 flemish string made by hoppybeer on -bay. I'm shooting 30" Easton 1816 tributes with 75 grain point.
I was shooting next to some buddies and they both spun around after my first shot. They said from my release to the arrow hitting the target was very quick and that it was a keeper.
I love it!
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From: waco
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Date: 16-Aug-17 |
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Hello PDiddly -
I just picked up a Howatt hi-speed that looks similar to your Hunter. It's 40#, 58" no AMO and the weight is stamped. I figure it's from the early 60's The serial # is HW 86310.
Is there a list of Howatt bowyers to their numbers to figure out who might have made it and when? Just got it and shot if for the first time. A keeper.
Thanks - hope my photos post. My first time trying. Waco
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From: waco
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Date: 16-Aug-17 |
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From: waco
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Date: 16-Aug-17 |
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From: waco
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Date: 16-Aug-17 |
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From: waco
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Date: 16-Aug-17 |
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Thanks for any help you can provide - Cheer, Waco
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From: Buzz
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Date: 16-Aug-17 |
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Hunter thread
http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/TF/lw/thread2.cfm?threadid=286197&category=88#4156969
Howatt bowyer thread
http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/TF/lw/thread2.cfm?threadid=288801&category=88#4215072
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From: waco
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Date: 16-Aug-17 |
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Thanks Buzz - Looks like #8 bowyer might be Larry - not sure but that would be cool.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 16-Aug-17 |
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I'll check the list on my computer tomorrow and let you know the year it was built as the last four digits are sequential.
Not sure who bowyer #8 was...Larry would know...he sometimes can tell by looking at how the tips and rosewood overlays on the belly were shaped.
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From: larryhatfield
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Date: 17-Aug-17 |
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I was #8. Black walnut riser with Brazilian rosewood caps.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 17-Aug-17 |
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WOW!! You have a bow built by The Man himself!
That's pretty cool!
Date of build was near the end of 1960...explanation on other thread.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 17-Aug-17 |
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Who was bowyer #1 in 1960 Larry?
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From: waco
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Date: 17-Aug-17 |
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Wow - super cool Larry. Thanks for the fine bow! It is like new.
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From: waco
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Date: 17-Aug-17 |
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Wow - super cool Larry. Thanks for the fine bow! It is like new.
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From: Buzz
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Date: 17-Aug-17 |
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Peter I recall Larry saying #1 was Damon himself.
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From: larryhatfield
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Date: 18-Aug-17 |
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#1 in 1960 and before was Peter Brauer. Great German craftsman.
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From: Buzz
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Date: 18-Aug-17 |
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Thanks Larry.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 18-Aug-17 |
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Nice to know Larry. My 1960 black walnut and rosewood Hi-Speed was made by him.
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From: Pdiddly
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Date: 18-Aug-17 |
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And so was my same year Hunter...a nice set.
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From: cueman
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Date: 18-Aug-17 |
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Larry, do you remember who was bowyer #9 during 59-61 time frame? Out of all my hunters, the ones by bowyer 9 have the smallest and finest tips.
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From: Monel
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Date: 13-Dec-22 |
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Reviving an old thread but my bow is 50 plus years old, figure this thread is only five years old... Anyways, picked up this Coronado from the auction sight and have a couple questions. HOT places it at 1965. It's got "Coronado by Howatt" in script on the side of the riser bow, but no Damon Howatt logo on the back face of the lower limb by the specs. Is this typical for the year? Is it blasphemy to put a Damon Howatt decal on it ???
Anyone know what wood this is made from? The catalog from that era simplys says the Coronado is "tropical hardwood".
Lastly, it looks like the sight window is cut well past center. Does anyone know what specs Howatt used to cut the sight windows? Something like 3/16" past center?
Thanks,
Monel
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From: 1888bc
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Date: 13-Dec-22 |
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Monel -
I can answer your question on the decal. The Coronado model never had a decal until 1968/69 model was made (HOO serial) and stayed that way until the model stop in 1985… the glass on yours was the best made by 3M… I’ve already documented this bow in the vintage Howatt database I’m currently responsible for on maintaining the records…
As for adding a decal, why change or alter original perfection as it is…?
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From: ronnickel
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Date: 13-Dec-22 |
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Mine. I believe it's a 1975
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From: DeerDave
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Date: 14-Dec-22 |
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Hey Folks, was curious if anyone knew the year of a Damon Howatt Coranado I'm about to purchase. It's a 45#@28" 60". The bow is in NEW condition. The asking price is $275.00 My question is does anyone know when this Bow was built? The numbers on the bow are HOP2062. Thank you
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From: ronnickel
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Date: 15-Dec-22 |
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DeerDave. Your answer is above in the original post. 70-71 I've recently paid $125 - $140 for mine. They were in new condition too. RH 38# and 40#
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From: Monel
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Date: 16-Dec-22 |
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1888bc
Thanks for the info. Where can I get a look at this database?
FYI, I also own HOO 1236, 45# @ 28" AMO 60". It's got black glass and no decal either. HOO puts it at 1968-1969 and still no decal so the date on the first decal might be off. Or, maybe they started somewhere within 1968-1969.
So, yes, I've got two Coronados, a 30# to work on my form and the 45# to deck out for hunting.
Any idea of the wood? Someone else told me they think it is Shedua.
Monel
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From: Monel
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Date: 16-Dec-22 |
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Obligatory photo of the "Coronado by Howatt Archery" script on HOO 1236.
Gotta admire that handwriting ...
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From: 1888bc
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Date: 19-Dec-22 |
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Monel ~
The vintage Howat database is not something that is for public view, sorry. It was started a few years back as a fun project by two to three individuals here on LW and now I've been asked to maintain adding much more bow information that was not previously captured...
Now, I did look up your serial (HOO 1236) and confirmed it is a 1968 and it's the 2nd Coronado made with HOO. As for the decal, it's no surprise yours is missing as many models had transition changes at certain years. For example, I've documented many 1963 Palomar models and there was a running change where the decal was the "conquistador" style in the beginning of the year, than switch to the "drawn bow" decal late in the same year...
Final note: your Coronado (HOT 2508) is mismarked as a 62" length bow. This model has always been a 60" bow. I have a 1961 Howatt Ventura which are a 66" marked model but mine is marked 62" (yes, I measured and was saddened it wasn't a rare one off by mistake)...
tjf...
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From: Monel
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Date: 27-Dec-22 |
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Thanks for this information and your work on the Howatt database. I can tell it is a labor of love.
One last question for you. What kind of arrow rest did these vintage Howatts come equipped with? Fur on the shelf with a leather strike plate? Some sort of elevated rest? Both of mine need new ones. I've shot both types and am OK with either. Just wondering what Howatt saw fit to equip them with from the shop.
Best,
Monel
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From: Pdiddly2
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Date: 27-Dec-22 |
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Very few pictures of the rests and sideplates from that time. Many of the bows pictured in the ads had no rests...the 1960 models had a foil sideplate and the later Howatt's had a one piece leather rest and side plate, like the one on the 1961 Diablo pictured..
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