From: Crow
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Can someone tell me their accuracy experience with a 42 lb recurve? With a 42 lb 60 or 62 in bow,,, what arrows afe you shooting and is it hadd to get a clean release at that lb. Even 40 lb if you havd experince. I apprdciate it.
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From: brantman
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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my widow is 43 lb,no problem just get the right arrow tip weight combo. mine is goldtip .500 with a 145 grain tip cut to 29 inches. flys well enough
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From: moebow
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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"...and is it hadd to get a clean release at that lb...?"
I see often, that getting a good release with a light is harder than with a heavier bow. This coaches answer to that is that if you can't get a good release with ANY weight bow, your release technique needs lots of work. Getting a good clean release with a 10# bow should be NO different than the good clean release with a 30,40,50,60,...# bow.
Arne
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From: JustSomeDude
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Do you mean is it too light? High 30's-low 40's is typical Barebow field draw weight. Nothing inherently difficult with a clean release. You just have to do it.
I have arrows from 7-10gpp. I'll probably hunt with a little under 9gpp this year
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From: Cowboy
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Stalker Coyote 62" 42@ 28" Static tip. I pull it back to 3.5, with a 30.75" GT 500 with 175 grain field tips and it shoots light out fast and flat. Last weekend I shoot at least 50 shots with 160 grain (on my scale) Land sharks and they fly perfectly. I shoot this same set up through my 6" 47@ 28" Black Widow SAG with out any issues also. Feel free to give me a call if you'd like Daryl.
Cowboy
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From: Ishi
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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42 lb. Tradtech Titan 62" from which I shoot "Wally World Specials" Allen Archery 45-65 w/ 200 gn. points.
38 lb. Sky Archery, 66" from which I shoot alum 1916 w/ 125 gn. points.
40 lb. Bryan Holley Spirit Bow take-down recurve 60" (prototype and no longer made) from which I shoot bamboo arrows that are marked "500" - not sure of the spine weight, w/ 125 points.
All three shoot 1916s - which are my go-to arrows.
No problem w/ a clean release.
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From: Cowboy
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Sorry I pull them both back to 30.5", and 60' BW Cowboy
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From: bigdog21
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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widow pma 43@27 i draw 27 beeman 500 28" regular 11gr insert 50gr. wight and 125 tip, 60-64 spine wood at 28 125 tip, 2016 cut 28.5 and 125gr tip. remember the riser cut will make a diffrence in spin.
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From: Crow
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Thanks a bunch. I appreciate the info.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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If you can't get a clean release from a light bow, it's your form that needs working. Decades ago guys were shooting field rounds with bows in the low to mid 30# range, and reaching 80 yards. Average barebow target recurve was likely 35 pounds for men and under 30 for ladies. If you are struggling with release at 42#, then you need some more work on your form at close range.
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From: Crow
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Not struggling George, just thought I would ask?. I started with about 57 lbs a fea years ago and as my hair gets more gray the poundage goes down lol
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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I did the same thing Crow. My heaviest is 47 at my draw.
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From: Archer
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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I practice regularly with a lower poundage just to keep my release clean. I usually use a 43 # at tournaments and works quite well.
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From: bradsmith2010
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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I have been shooting about 50 years,, it is more difficult for me to get a good release with a light bow,, yes I need more work on my form and release,, but it is easier for me when I am shooting my heavier hunting bows,, my release is not an issue,, so I can see why some would say that,, Even Byron Ferguson told me he gets a better release shooting his 70# exibition bow,, I have been working with a lighter bow this last year and I am improving,,:):):)
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Need to practice opening your fingers rather then jerking has to be smooth to let string roll off clean. You can visualize this. I really never herd such issues. Not all tabs are created equal either you have to use one that's broken in well and one you like shooting if that's what you are using. Form is part of your release and if you drag yu will have issues plus if you have carple issues might be another reason?
More difficult yeah keep telling yourself that fake news will ya all. LOL
A lot of you have so many issues with everything don't think a lot of you should be trying to shoot sticks. Stay with guns then might be best!
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From: bradsmith2010
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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sometimes and issue for one person might not be an issue for another,, shooting a bow is very easy,, and sometimes very difficult,, so I try to keep an open mind when others have a problem,, I may not have experienced,, keeping an open mind is an exercise in mental form,, :):)
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From: JustSomeDude
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Crow,
I picked some 30# ILF limbs and shot just those for a few months. I HATED IT at first. Then I finally got comfortable with them and turned them up to 35#. I've settled on staying below 45# now. I can shoot as much as I want and it is a good balance for me.
I still shoot my light limbs every now and then
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From: DarrinG
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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>>Can someone tell me their accuracy experience with a 42 lb recurve?<<
If you do a search on here you can find a thread with 45# and under bowkills. There's photos of LOTS of dead big game animals taken with 45# and under bow weight. That is the ultimate accuracy experience for a bowhunter, proof is in the puddin.
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From: Tom McCool
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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I can handle more but 40 to 48# is my happy place. I think when when we are in our happy place we can make anything work well. I shoot 42 pretty good. :)
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From: Roadrunner
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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I used 1916 aluminums with a 43# RWH, B55 string, and about 27 1/2" draw. No problems with release.
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From: Straydog
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Rymancat, until you can draw a sober breath maybe you shouldn't be telling these grown men what they should or shouldn't be doing!
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From: kenwilliams
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Crow, I am most accurate with a Samick bow that is 43 #'s at my draw length. I am in complete control of this bow and could hold it at full draw 30 seconds easily. I have heavier bows that I reguarly shoot, but I am most accurate with my 43 # bow. The arrows that it shoots best are Easton 2016's cut 30 1/2" long and 125 grain points installed. I do catch myself plucking the string from time to time. When I catch myself doing it, I focus on making sure I have a deep hook and relaxed fingers on the string,anchoring my index finger in the corner of my mouth, letting the string slip out of my fingers when I release and then letting my draw hand move straight back along my face till I feel the back of my hand hit my cheekbone. I have been shooting about 4 years now and it took me about 2 years to develop a release clean enough to shoot split finger with a glove. When my release was poor, it seemed shooting 3 under with a cordivan tab helped me. Good Luck with your shooting, Ken
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From: r-man
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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dang , any way to the ? the bows draw weight does not effect accuracy , 99% the shooter , 1% the correct matched arrow and point weight .
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From: Dad
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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42#@27 with 1916 with 125fp. Very good for me. I will add the bow is 64" length. Its a Hoyt excel with Black max 2.0. I have a good release even with my arthritis.
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From: Mule/IN
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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Crow-due to some nerve issues in both shoulders I had to drop in bow weight from 50# to 43# this spring. I managed to get my arrow weight to the same grains per pound for the 43# bow as I shoot from the 50# pound bow (12.3 grains per pound). I had no trouble transitioning to the 43# bow as the arrow trajectory is virtually the same. I am back to shooting the 50# bow now, but I still shoot the 43#er a bit for form work. Good Luck-Mike
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From: kenwilliams
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Date: 22-Jul-17 |
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"dang , any way to the ? the bows draw weight does not effect accuracy , 99% the shooter , 1% the correct matched arrow and point weight ."
Not trying to start a argument but having a bow/arrow combination that is the correct spine arrow and a bow that is properly tuned to that arrow and a particular shooters form is a little more important than 1%
That said, you can have a perfect setup and poor fundamentalso and you won't be hitting too many things you aim at.
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From: bboaldin
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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I agree with others here on the arrows and gpi and spine.
For years I shot 60-70# longbows and then had a motorcycle wreck and that ended archery for about a year.
I have only buit up to 50# max at my draw and it has been a CONSTANT STRUGGLE with my release. I guess those heavier bows just tore the string from my fingers and I now have to CONCENTRATE on making a clean release with lighter weight bows.
Just my experience...hope it helps.
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From: zetabow
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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For tourney shooting with right arrow combo you don't need anything much over 42#, even with IFAA Longbow, over the last 15 years I've seen the average draw weight go from low 50's down to low 40's and 370+ Field scores being shot on a regular basis, even 400+ has been official broken and set as a National Field record this side of the pond.
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From: DanaC
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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Deep hook, cordovan tab, rotational draw to anchor, *constant* back tension through release.
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From: DanaC
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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PS Watch Arne (Moebow) here -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c8_-96h6BY
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From: Babbling Bob
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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Don't notice any difference between 32 to 49lb bows I have owned or currently own in how they shoot with different arrows except one I owned long ago.
Shot a '62 48lb Kodiak Magnum with short 26-inch 1816 24srt aluminums with nibs and 2.5-inch feathers first year shooting, and those arrows would really fly flat. Hunted with short Rose City 5/16-inch red dipped cedars and light weight bodkin 3-blade points and they flew pretty flat for hunting type woodies.
Most often shoot a 40 and 43lb @28 '61 and '62 Kodiaks with Axis Trad 600's with heavy 75 grain brass inserts and 90 and 100 grain points. Use same arrows for three 45lb bows on the rack altering the point weights. Do shoot a '62 Kodiak Special marked 30lb @24 inches which is about 38 to 40lb @28. Have a 26-inch draw length if that helps, so the 30lb@24-inch K Special is actually pulling about 35lb @26 inches. Use ordinary Axis 700's with 110 grain points for that one. All my arrows are 28.5 inches for carbons and 28-inches for some old left over aluminums I still keep around.
Don't quite understand the question Crow unless you are fishing for arrow set ups, but based on my experiences with magnesium risered target bows, real heavy long rosewood target bows, and the more simple looking and lighter risered recurve bows I own now, they all have shot or shoot about the same except when I used those real light and short target arrows with that short hunting bow in the past. Those arrows definitely flew a whole lot flatter.
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From: Will tell
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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I'm shooting three bows that are between 40 and 44 pounds. Am shooting 5/16 cedars at 450 gr. couldn't ask for better arrow flight and don't seem to have any problem with release. I don't see much difference shooting light weight bows but my shoulder sure sees the difference.lol
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From: Tajue17
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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just for comparison my buddy shoots a 41# wing and his arrows are around 425gr total,,, I was shooting a 57# John Jordan and my arrows where 600gr,,, his bow was a lot faster and he has killed several deer with it.
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From: RymanCat
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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Sticks in my opinion have been the easiest of all weapons for me to shoot over the years. I found that it's me that needs to learn how to dial it in and keep working it out!
I had to learn how to release and when I get back to shooting I will have to work things out also I already know that how to hold and aim and be steady at the shot again. Variables learning them and perfecting using visualization had helped me.
Are we using the blank bail shooting and working on our releases all the time with our eyes closed? Repetition and yes release is part of form that needs to be worked on as well as my timing also I found. By the time I get to my release I want to be opening my fingers so timing for me is a factor also. All this is the string rolling off our fingers and not holding onto the string letting it go smoothly as we can do.
Its really that simple don't make more drama than Hollywood does!LOL
A release is release is a release! Learn how to open your fingers and don't pluck string or drag unless your cross dressing.LOL
Could it even be you need to find the right release aid even? I see some of these tabs that are out there being offered and to me they look like catchers mitts. I look at them and say why or how could I use a thing like that and get it to work for me.
Maybe consider changing up from a deep hook if that's what you do to a 1rst joint or even closer to your tips of fingers? Its easier to do this with a lighter bow than a heavy bow to hold string back.
Just some additional thoughts to try out.
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From: Crow
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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Im shooting pretty good. I like my form and everything. Im looking at my third bow and was thinking 42 lb which would be my lowest and was just wanting to know if ghe low 40,s is more difficulg to get a good release than upper 40,s. You have all confirmed what I was thinking and It has been an interesting thread. Wasnt fishing for arrkw setups or any other hidden questiobs. Really apprdciate all the input. Looks like Im getting a 42lb. 62in.PA.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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Cat, using a deep hook....which is actually in the first joint....helps get through a release better than a finger tip hold which must be consciously make. It becomes a problem with helping someone else if we don't even know what a deep hook refers to.
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From: Crow
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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Gee whiz,,, sure hope you can read between the lines or should I say sipher out my spelling. LOL
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From: hunterbob
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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I think 42# would be a great weight. Go for it crow get that PA you will love it. And as far as release goes if you have a decent release now you should with the lighter weight bow.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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I had 'sipherin 101 a long time ago. It's necessary out here where I live, and it predates spell check by quite a number of eons. 8^)))). Let us know when you get that bow and how you like it. It will do anything you need for sure.
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From: 2 bears
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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To Original question----42# is accurate but not nearly as accurate as 40#. :^) Ken >>--->
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From: picapica
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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From my experience, my accuracy is more affected by the actual weight of the bow than by its draw weight. I'm consistently more accurate with my 66" to 72" recurve bows than I am with my 52" to 62" bows.
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From: Crow
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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I understand actual physical weight I f the bow having an affect. Medium to medium heavy bows are ok for me to light is a little harder to follow tgrough with.
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From: DanaC
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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I think you focus a bit more on holding a heavier (mass) bow, but it smooths out recoil/reaction.
No matter what the mass is, I tend to lower the bugger a bit too soon. Gets me talking to myself at the butts.
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From: mangonboat
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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My bows are 28 to 63 lbs, but one of my favorites is a 40# 1962 Kodiak Special, 66", that shoots No 6 Micro FLite arrows like a varmint rifle at my 28.75 draw.
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From: JustSomeDude
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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Funny about bow weight...I was talking to Cal at the CD Archery booth. I picked up one of their bows that had a dish stabilizer on it. It seriously felt like it had a gyropscope on it...it holds itself in alignment so well.
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From: firekeeper
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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My most common weight is 45#, but I had a 40", 60" semi recurve for a while, and sometimed shoot my wife's 40#, 62" r/d... both shot very well for me (especially her Whip HS) with 45/45# wood arrows, 28-29"BOP. Around 10gpp, and 125 or 145 points.
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From: Darkarcher
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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I have a 41lb, two 42lb, and two 43lb bows. I typically can average 8's on a good day shooting from the 30 yard max stake at local 3d shoots. Many archers do better.
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From: Tzioxphon
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Date: 23-Jul-17 |
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38@28 600 carbons and 175 head, 60 inch bow. Have killed WT with 35 and passthrough and Elk with 44.
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From: jk
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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If you're into aiming, you can aim longer with a lighter bow. Not necessarily a great idea...but I'm more accurate with 38 than 60. On the other hand, I'm more accurate with 66" 60 than 62" 52...
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From: Fisher Cat
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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I usually notice a difference when shooting a lighter draw weight than I'm used to, but I have no problem admitting my release needs work. To me, that's a good reason to get a lighter draw weight. It will force you to work on your release.
I still believe in practicing with three bows if possible:
-One that is kind of on the heavy side for you to build strength and work on keeping your bow arm steady at the shot.
-One that is light for you to help you refine your release.
-One that is in the middle to bring it all together (that's the one I'll usually hunt with).
That's just a theory of mine, but it works for me. My shooting always has room for improvement, but I don't embarrass myself too often either. - John
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From: Greyfox
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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My 700 Ben Pearson is 60 in, 40#. It likes a full length Gt1535. 511.8 grain. My 707 Ben Pearson is 62 in, 43#. It likes a full length Gt3555. 490 grain. My Samick Sage is 62 in, 45#. It shoots the same full length Gt3555. 490 grain. Good luck.
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From: Bowdoc
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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Practice practice practice bd
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From: Red Beastmaster
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Date: 24-Jul-17 |
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Crow, you asked for three specific things. Like usual on here, you got everything but. Here you go......
42# @ 27", 60" recurve.
Accuracy = Great!
Arrows = 1916 x 28" w/125gr pt.
Release issues = None
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From: jk
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Date: 25-Jul-17 |
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Red Beast, here's the original question. Lots of guys provided additional very helpful details:
"Can someone tell me their accuracy experience with a 42 lb recurve? With a 42 lb 60 or 62 in bow,,, what arrows afe you shooting and is it hadd to get a clean release at that lb. Even 40 lb if you havd experince. I apprdciate it."
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From: fdp
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Date: 25-Jul-17 |
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No it's not hard to get a good release, if you have a good release. Draw weight has -0- to do with inherent accuracy. Depending on the bow, the string, and the arrow length you want, I would shoot 1820's.
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From: Red Beastmaster
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Date: 25-Jul-17 |
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jk
I'm fully aware of the original question. That's why I answered it without going off on a tangent listing every bow I own and explaining how to let go of a string.
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