Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


Quiver or no quiver

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ShadeHaven 21-Jun-17
Legato 21-Jun-17
ky_hunter 21-Jun-17
GF 21-Jun-17
bigdog21 21-Jun-17
JustSomeDude 21-Jun-17
ShadeHaven 22-Jun-17
doubleeagle 22-Jun-17
Elkhuntr 22-Jun-17
Jim Casto Jr 22-Jun-17
scienceguy 22-Jun-17
JustSomeDude 22-Jun-17
Bill C 22-Jun-17
George D. Stout 22-Jun-17
ShadeHaven 22-Jun-17
Monte 22-Jun-17
George D. Stout 22-Jun-17
N. Y. Yankee 22-Jun-17
bigdog21 22-Jun-17
ShadeHaven 22-Jun-17
DarrinG 22-Jun-17
Catsailor 22-Jun-17
JustSomeDude 22-Jun-17
George D. Stout 22-Jun-17
ShadeHaven 22-Jun-17
ShadeHaven 22-Jun-17
ShadeHaven 22-Jun-17
ShadeHaven 22-Jun-17
bigdaddy 22-Jun-17
George D. Stout 22-Jun-17
GAUCHO 22-Jun-17
Bill Rickvalsky 22-Jun-17
ShadeHaven 22-Jun-17
Orion 22-Jun-17
TGbow 23-Jun-17
Bushytail 23-Jun-17
Bushytail 23-Jun-17
Crow 23-Jun-17
ShadeHaven 23-Jun-17
StikBow 23-Jun-17
White Falcon 23-Jun-17
gluetrap 23-Jun-17
Bushytail 23-Jun-17
Scooby-doo 23-Jun-17
Tradarcher4fun 23-Jun-17
From: ShadeHaven
Date: 21-Jun-17




Who here shoots with a quiver on your bow? I always did, until I just finished building my new bow, which I have been shooting it without. It had some hand shock so I put a quiver on to see if it would help. It lessened the hand shock but the quiver vibrates now and Im shooting to the left each shot. Am I tourqing my bow? Maybe I should just stick to shooting without... If that's the case, what's a good hunting quiver? A cat quiver?

From: Legato
Date: 21-Jun-17




Depends. I have now quivers on 4 of my 6 bows. I favor the great northern with the quick detach. When you add or remove anything to the now you have to retune accordingly. The now quiver adds mass weight and acts as a stabilizer hence why you probably feel less hand shock. If you are shooting to the left, you have to determine whether it is you torquing the bow or now the bow is slightly out of tune. By the excess vibration you stated, I suspect you may need a slight retune.

From: ky_hunter
Date: 21-Jun-17




A safari tuff or riverwolf alpha. Both differ, both are excellent quivers. I also shoot with and without bow quivers. Depends on what im doing.

From: GF
Date: 21-Jun-17




Tried one briefly… Really didn't like it.

But to each his own. I do kind of like the idea of a one-arrow set-up for just-in- case occasions....

From: bigdog21
Date: 21-Jun-17




pic. of where your mounting your quiver. you could be getting to far out on the fade out and on the limb. thats not good it will vibrate then. and what quiver are you using.

From: JustSomeDude
Date: 21-Jun-17




When I hunt, the bow is in my hands or on my lap. I see no advantage to having all of my arrows in hand. I love the SafariTuff

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 22-Jun-17




Thanks. Big dog I don't have a pic but I did slide the quiver top and bottom against where my fade outs are.I thought that way it would be less intrusive to the limb flex. I have a boa. 4 arrow.

From: doubleeagle
Date: 22-Jun-17




I usually have a slide-on Kwikee that I remove when I get to a place to sit. I sometimes use my catquiver and remove it to sit. Basically, I rarely hunt with a quiver on. Just my way.

From: Elkhuntr
Date: 22-Jun-17




I always shoot and hunt with a bow quiver. I never found a downside to it. i like the additional weight. i have chrono'd and checked arrow tune with and without bow quivers, and never found them to have an effect on either speed or arrow flight. I use selway and great northern quivers.

From: Jim Casto Jr
Date: 22-Jun-17




I've always hunted with a bow quiver. I like the added weight. Like Legato said, it acts as a stabilizer, and stabilizers "can" make an arrow act stiffer. That could account for shooting a little left--or not (assuming you're RH). Maybe put a lighter tip on your arrows and see what happens.

From: scienceguy
Date: 22-Jun-17




I used bow quivers for a time, but got away from them after trying a Safari Tuff Duiker quiver. Going to a stand, the Duiker goes over the top of my small backpack, up in the treestand I just hang it off a hook. The arrows slide out the bottom side opening slick and quick without a lot of attention getting movement. At the end of the hunt, my bow slides into its case, and the quiver comes off my shoulder. No fussing with removing or re-attaching a bow quiver. The Duiker works great for roving too, just slide the arrows in the top, and feed them out the bottom. I can carry just a few arrows, or as many as seven if I want. I also have the detachable rain sleeve that fits on top if the weather turns bad. The arrows do not extend above my head, and I find it easier to move through brush. An arrow is always right there just below my waist for easy removal. http://www.safarituff.com/arrowmaster_duiker.html

From: JustSomeDude
Date: 22-Jun-17




If you want added weight, just buy a heavier bow that was designed and balanced and is always the same weight.

RE: Hitting left with a quiver...it might just be throwing off your sight picture. Even if you don't 'aim', having that in your view can throw you off until you get used to it.

From: Bill C
Date: 22-Jun-17




Adding physical weight to your riser, putting on a bow quiver, will make paradox of the arrow act stiffer. Over time your brain can compensate but I prefer to use an Asbell type because when I am hunting with a bow quiver it sometime becomes an impediment. Refer my bow 'clean".

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jun-17




Your arrows basically are borderline stiff and the addition of the quiver exacerbates that issue. As for rattling, you need a better quiver or that one is may riding on the working part of the limb. I can shoot either way, and it merely depends on my wants at the time. Never had an issue with them and like them on really light weight bows.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 22-Jun-17




Well I built my bow witha 14" riser, which makes for a lot of limb flex. I like all the advice guys. I appreciate it. I might go with a side quiver, one thing i like about not having a quiver attached is deer wont catch the movent as quick since there's no bright fletchings hanging off the side of your bow.

It definitely seems like its something I need to decide which route Im going to take and then stick to it and practice. My mind will compensate once i shoot either way but i cant switch back and forth.

From: Monte
Date: 22-Jun-17




The only quiver I do not have or have never tried is a hip style quiver. I have the Great Northern strap on and really like it. I have the Selway slide on long bow quiver and use it quite a bit as well. Also have a safari tuff and cat quiver III. I will probably use the Selway for elk this year as I spike camp and do not want anything else hanging on my pack. The safari tuff will also make the trip if weather is an issue.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jun-17




Arrows that hit left are a problem, and you shouldn't "adjust to it" as some would say. An arrow needs to shoot the line. In other words, it you put a vertical line on your target, your arrows need to hit in the center or close as best you can shoot them. Up and down are not an issue as long as they are flying well. Left and right is an issue when you should be hitting down the line. That is a tuning issue and something that needs fixed. Even an old lemonwood bow, with no shelf, will shoot the line with a proper spine.

From: N. Y. Yankee
Date: 22-Jun-17




I like bow quivers on the bow but I like them light and compact like a 3 or 4 arrow model. I dont carry anymore than 3 arrows anyway.

From: bigdog21
Date: 22-Jun-17




From: ShadeHaven
Date: 22-Jun-17




George, I am a novice when it comes to tuning....

From: DarrinG
Date: 22-Jun-17




I've got one particular bow that is very light in the hand. It shot OK. Not my favorite. Once I added a bow quiver to it to add some mass weight, it shoots so much better! It now sits dead in my hand upon release and it changed how the bow feels when shot big time (for the better). And I am a big fan of the Thunderhorn Linx quivers...have a Linx model on both my hunting bows.

From: Catsailor
Date: 22-Jun-17




I hunt with a bow mounted Great Northern quiver. It just seems easier walking through a field of standing corn and hunting from a treestand.

From: JustSomeDude
Date: 22-Jun-17




When you say you hit left...how far left and at what distance? If you are using screw in points...experiment. Hitting left, add 25-50 grains. Hitting right, reduce.

You can try a thinner strike plate. What's there now? If it's Velcro for instance...you can try using moleskin

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jun-17




Brian....we were all novices at one point. 8^). Where in Pa. are you? I'm over near Bedford.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 22-Jun-17




Thompsontown. I just put a small piece of leather on from a craft store....i could put a piece on thats a little thinner.

I have 500 spine beman arrows but i did a dummy move, this was some time ago i cut them to like 28" i have 100 grain brass inserts in them and 175 grain point to help weaken shaft to fly better, they fly great out of my 54# recurve.

My longbow i built is 48#. I have several sets of wood shafts i have and they all shoot to the left. These carbons shoot he best.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 22-Jun-17

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From: ShadeHaven
Date: 22-Jun-17

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From: ShadeHaven
Date: 22-Jun-17




i guess a thinner material would help some, I did not build it center, its about 3/16" to an 1/8" before center

From: bigdaddy
Date: 22-Jun-17




Quiver on bow always, just like it that way

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jun-17




If you want good arrow flight with a quiver on that bow, you will need to get around a 600 spine carbon...if you want carbons, and get about 200 grains out front. You are way out from center and the arrow had to bend quite a bit. The carbons shoot a bit better because they are small diameter and that gets them closer to center. Your wood arrows are wider and that takes them further from center. That is the entire issue pretty much.

From: GAUCHO
Date: 22-Jun-17




Quiver on bow always

From: Bill Rickvalsky
Date: 22-Jun-17




Personally I have never cared for any kind of bow quiver. I shoot longbows, among other reasons, because they are light weight and easily maneuvered in the woods. I have never found adding weight to my longbows helped my shooting in the slightest bit. Nor does having arrows hanging off my bow contribute to maneuverability in the woods. Just my personal preferences.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 22-Jun-17




George I never thought about the diameter coming into effect...makes perfect sense. I have 500 spines cut down to 28" so I guess I should get another dozen. Problem is carbons aren't cheap...figures. Well the arrows I have now shoot great out of my recurve so I'll keep them just for it and it only. Maybe I need to go get 600 spine....That won't help me for Saturdays shoot at ski sawmill. Oh well maybe I should just take my recurve. I just built my Longbow thought! :-)

From: Orion Professional Bowhunters Society - Qualified Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 22-Jun-17




Been using bow quivers for ages with no problems. They add mass to a longbow, which I like, and help quiet the bow. I use smaller 4-arrow quivers. Not enough weight there to affect the arrow flight on my bows.

From: TGbow
Date: 23-Jun-17




I like the convenience of a bow quiver. Like others have mentioned it adds stability and usually makes the bow quieter. Always have to make sure the quiver is not into the fadeouts though.

From: Bushytail Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 23-Jun-17




Brian, I have some Herritage 150s and different weight tips you could try to see if it helps. We could meet at Shade Mtn next 3D Shoot. I could also bring along my catquiver IV for you to try. They make a lot of differant models of catquivers. I got use to shooting without a quiver on my bow now and like it. (Always had quiver on bow) The catquiver worked nice for turkey hunting. Looking forward to trying it out for deer hunting.

From: Bushytail Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 23-Jun-17




Brian, you should take your longbow along also when you go to ski Sawmill. Might be some vendors up there that might have different arrows for you to try. Other shooters might let you try there arrows too.

From: Crow
Date: 23-Jun-17




I always have a wuiver on all my bows. Target and hunting.

From: ShadeHaven
Date: 23-Jun-17




Bushytail We should just plan on the next Shade Mountain Bowmen shoot.... on July 22. That would be great to try some other arrows before i go and buy.... Are you going to ski sawmill saturday?

From: StikBow
Date: 23-Jun-17




Do not forget that quiver on your bow can provide a bit of cover for your face. The bow and arrows can help you 'hide' a bit. That said I use them on some bows and not others

From: White Falcon
Date: 23-Jun-17




Always have a quiver on my bows!

From: gluetrap
Date: 23-Jun-17




im always leaning back against a tree, so no back or catquiver for me. safari tuff, dogware, gfa are good. for bow quiver I use efa 3 arrow quiver on my go to bow. so light you can hardly tell it is on. for my bows with threaded holes ,I use great northern and deltas. for my bows with quikie typ holes I use kwiki quivers. all are plenty light weght for me.ymmv...ron

From: Bushytail Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 23-Jun-17




Sounds good about Shade. But I won't make it to Sawmill. :^(

From: Scooby-doo
Date: 23-Jun-17




Always have a bow quiver on the bow. Usually the same one, I just switch it to whatever bow I am shooting. Strap on Boa for years. I now am using a 4 arrow Kanati that I like very much and it will be on my new to me RER CRX recurve. Shooting this bow better then any in a long time. Shawn

From: Tradarcher4fun
Date: 23-Jun-17




I like shooting with a quiver on my recurves but not on my longbows. When I first tried a bow quiver on my longbow it didn't shoot right, didn't feel right, and didn't look right.





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