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How to measure brace height?

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Babysaph 08-Jun-17
George D. Stout 08-Jun-17
George D. Stout 08-Jun-17
Babysaph 08-Jun-17
Viper 08-Jun-17
Babysaph 08-Jun-17
Rick Barbee 08-Jun-17
Babysaph 09-Jun-17
Babysaph 09-Jun-17
Thin Man 09-Jun-17
Babysaph 09-Jun-17
markm 14-Jan-19
BACKYARD 14-Jan-19
George D. Stout 14-Jan-19
dr22shooter 14-Jan-19
George D. Stout 14-Jan-19
George D. Stout 14-Jan-19
Jon Stewart 14-Jan-19
RymanCat 14-Jan-19
George D. Stout 14-Jan-19
GF 14-Jan-19
GF 14-Jan-19
dean 14-Jan-19
buster v davenport 14-Jan-19
longbowguy 15-Jan-19
2 bears 15-Jan-19
camodave 16-Jan-19
From: Babysaph
Date: 08-Jun-17




So I have a DAS bow and was looking at the manual for it and it says to measure the brace height from the string to the hole in the riser for the plunger. I could have sworn that the brace height was from the string to the back of the handle

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Jun-17




No, brace is to the pivot point of the grip, that was always the AMO standard as well. Likely the hole is right above the pivot area. Check it out.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 08-Jun-17




Actually, you can measure it where you want to...it just won't be AMO. Whatever you do, make sure you remember how you did it. ))

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 08-Jun-17




That's what I figured George. I always went by AMO but now it seems that has gone by the wayside.

From: Viper
Date: 08-Jun-17




Guys -

IF the bow was built correctly, the plunger hole should be right over the deepest part of the throat. Think about it.

Viper out.

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 08-Jun-17




And yes by back of handle I meant that pivot point.

From: Rick Barbee
Date: 08-Jun-17




[[[ Viper said: "Guys - IF the bow was built correctly, the plunger hole should be right over the deepest part of the throat. Think about it. Viper out." ]]]

Yep. Most of mine have been. The bow I am currently shooting measures 1/16" more at the center of the hole, than it does to the deepest part of the throat of the grip. Pretty darn close.

Rick

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Jun-17




By golly viper you are right

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Jun-17




Viper didn't you write a book? I want to read it.

From: Thin Man
Date: 09-Jun-17




Babysaph,

Viper's book:

http://www.3riversarchery.com/shooting-the-stickbow-book-by-anthony-camera.html

From: Babysaph Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member
Date: 09-Jun-17




Thanks

From: markm
Date: 14-Jan-19




I have a BUNCH of archery books, just as many 'wallers do.

If I could only keep one, it would be Viper's "Shooting the Stickbow." It's encyclopedic and features many dozens of photos and illustrations to better make Viper's points.

If you're serious about trad archery, you need "Shooting the Stickbow." (No. I don't know Viper personally, and I don't get a commission for promoting his book.)

Mark

From: BACKYARD
Date: 14-Jan-19




Have Vipers book and agree with markm. I've read most all the books out there and some almost ruined me. I finally learned to do what works for me and not copy someone else who's selling books telling me their way is best.Started have fun when I found my way with help from great folks here and youtube and listening to old timers. Thanks to all.

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Jan-19

George D. Stout's embedded Photo



From: dr22shooter
Date: 14-Jan-19




lot of bows in the world just do not have a plunger hole at all dr

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Jan-19

George D. Stout's embedded Photo



From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Jan-19




dr22shooter, I think most know that...really. The question came up about where to locate them, so those folks deserve an answer...especially since the cushioned plunger has been used by lots of archers for over fifty years.

From: Jon Stewart
Date: 14-Jan-19




George just posted the perfect picture to show how. Now buy a bow square if you dont have one.

From: RymanCat
Date: 14-Jan-19




This is confused a lot with people I think. George that shows the way well. That's how I had been taught and been doing it since.

I know there's other ways. But not for me. If you take your fist and stick out your thumb and measure that from saddle to the string. Problem with that method not everyones hand is the same some larger and some smaller.

Tape measure, bow squire or ruler?

From: George D. Stout Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 14-Jan-19




Doesn't matter how you measure it, or even where, but the photo shows the AMO standard. Now if you like you can measure to the face side of the shelf...just do it the same way every time and know what your measurement is. I've don't it to the pivot point since that was the AMO designation back when I started...even before AMO became a voluntary standard.

Another thing, suggested brace is a starting point even if stated by the bow maker. Being we're all a little different we all don't require the same measures.

From: GF
Date: 14-Jan-19

GF's embedded Photo



JMO - every laminated riser should be built like this one. I’m measuring to the forward edge of that first white line from grip-side of the riser.

From: GF
Date: 14-Jan-19

GF's embedded Photo



Because exactly.

From: dean
Date: 14-Jan-19




ASLs may vary from that standard. You can have a 2.5" grip depth and a 1.5" grip depth with the same limb design, logic says that should affect the brace height one inch. Also, the arrow contact should be aligned with the limbs.

From: buster v davenport
Date: 14-Jan-19




For hundred of years the old fistmele method was used to measure brace height. You know, with the hand against the handle and the extended thumb tip to the string. bvd

From: longbowguy
Date: 15-Jan-19




However you do it you might also use the fistmele from a convenient place on the bow and memorize how it looks. Then you can make a quick check whenever you like without carrying a ruler or tape. On a recurve doing this from a hump on the handle may be more convenient. - lbg

From: 2 bears
Date: 15-Jan-19




Deep part of the grip,pivot point,arrow rest,and plunger hole,should all be in line to minimize torque. Deep part of the grip to string like in George's picture has always been where fistmele and brace height were measured.If the other things are not in the same plane the bow is not set up for the most forgiving shot. Put a mark or crest stripe on your arrows for an immediate check. You can see if anything has changed every time you nock an arrow,if you want to.>>>----> Ken

From: camodave
Date: 16-Jan-19




Pretty sure the manufacturer would know how to measure for their riser. It is a very arbitrary number anyway. I tend to just set my brace height on the high side and shoot. I never check it.

DDave





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