From: jk
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Date: 25-May-17 |
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What carbon weight do you use for 3-Ds and from what bow weight? LB or Recurve?
Why?
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From: JustSomeDude
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Date: 25-May-17 |
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Recurve. 45#, 9gpp or so. Shoots great and is a good power/trajectory compromise.
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From: jk
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Date: 25-May-17 |
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Dude, why not lighter/flatter-shooting? Why do you need "power" for ethafoam?
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From: Too Many Bows Bob
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Date: 25-May-17 |
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I shoot the same arrow all year long so I won't have to "adjust" when it comes to hunting season, when it really counts. My arrows are always around 525-550 gr. I shoot about a 50 lb. bow.
TMBB
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From: JusPassin
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Date: 25-May-17 |
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45 pound ILF bow, plunger/flipper rest, with Easton Flat-line carbons weighing 360 grains.
I like the reduced trajectory for target shooting.
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From: JustSomeDude
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Date: 25-May-17 |
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Like TMBB, if I am really learning my gaps, I don't want to adjust for hunting. I have used lighter arrows AND lower draw weight, but I didn't see a Big advantage.
I use lower GPP on my target/Barebow rig
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From: JustSomeDude
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Date: 25-May-17 |
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I was able to set up a 38# that gapped the same as my hunting rig. That's not bad
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From: jaz5833
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Date: 25-May-17 |
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I use a vintage 69" 29# Frank Eicholtz recurve throwing 28" 700 spine Goldtip Warriors with 100 grain field tips, three 3-3/4" shield cut feathers (LW) for a total arrow weight of 288 grains. Chronoed at 155-60 fps, my point-on is 50 yards.
I use this setup for three reasons:
1) The bow is a San Diego made recurve
2) With the proper arrow, as detailed above, it shoots EXACTLY the same as my heavy bow with hunting weight arrows.
3)The GT Warriors are cheap
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From: Fall Gray
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Date: 25-May-17 |
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45lb A&H ACS + 425gn arrows = 9.44gpp
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 25-May-17 |
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If you don't shoot a high anchor there is no reason you can't have good trajectory with heavier arrows. My point on is past 50 yards with 10 gpp.
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From: Orion
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Date: 25-May-17 |
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I use 3-D as practice for hunting so shoot the same arrows I would for hunting, usually 550 to 600 grains out of 50# bows -- 11-12 gpp. Works for me.
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From: Mpdh
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Date: 25-May-17 |
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All my bows are hunting wt. And all I own are hunting arrows. Arrow wt varies from 7.5 to 9 gpp out of 55 to 68 lb bows.
MP
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From: Buglmin
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Date: 25-May-17 |
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50# New Breed RK1 with 388 grain arrows. Bow flat out shoots a fast arrow. You'd be surprised how well the VAP's penetrate... I also shoot a 50# Tribe Halo longbow with 404 grain GT Pierce shafts. Killed three turkeys with these two bows and the same arrows with Montec heads.
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From: Darkarcher
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Date: 25-May-17 |
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Depends on the bow. Carbon/foam ilf rig i try to get from 7.5 to 8.5gpp. Wood bows 8.8 to 9.25gpp. I like to hunt at 9.2 as well.
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From: Bobby B
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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Recurve.
Depends on the bow I suppose.
Favorite 45# draw bow 8.2 gpi shafts 470gr total
Favorite 60# draw bow 8.8 gpi shafts 500gr total
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From: r.grider
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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same as i hunt with, around 10 grains per pound draw weight. Why would I shoot an arrow that flys differently than my hunting arrow, when my ssole purpose for shooting 3-D's is practice for hunting ?
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From: DanaC
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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Funny, I never weigh my arrows. I'm shooting full length 500 carbons with 175 grain heads, and they fly well but drop off after 20 yards. Since I don't gap or string walk that becomes a real problem!
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From: Demmer
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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Currently, shooting 42# and around 305 grains. I don't know what my final setup might be, but it will be around 305-320. Although it's not my fastest setup, it is however my most forgiving setup.
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From: Fletch
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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I shoot mostly xx75 aluminum 2016 or carbon Gold Tip 3555 (,blems from Big Jim's) from my 37-47# recurves and longbows. All full length. Point weight varies , depending on the bow, from 150-175 grains.
I can shoot xx75 aluminum 1916 shafts too.
I just like shooting the 2016/3555 better. While they have more arc than the 1916s, they shoot "lower". I have tuned my set up to have a 22 yard impact that is at the top of my strike plate. I gap off my riser (actually my strike plate), and it works for me. ROUGHLY, each yard shorter than 22 yards is an inch higher (needing an inch lower hold). Each yard longer than 22 yards is an inch lower (needing an inch higher).
On a deer-sized target, @15 yards, I use the bottom of the chest/body as my elevation reference with the top of my strike plate. At 27-28 yards, I use the top of the body as my elevation reference with the top of the strike plate. My anchor point is my index finger to my upper eye tooth. I also run a fairly high nock point (3/4" above center) to aid in getting this set of compromises/sighting set up.
I experiment and play a lot on my set ups. Ask me two years from now, and I'll likely have a slightly different answer.
So far, the GT 3555 have a better speed/trajectory /gap compromise than the 2016 shafts. I also get good results using Gamegetter 500 alum shafts on the heavier draw weight bows (up to 48#@28"). I also like to modify (file/sand) my "cut to/past center" value on my riser to get desired weak/strong arrow position. Typically about 1/32" at a time, to get to or past center-fire re-evaluation, then file/sand some more until I get what I want.
So far, it works for me.
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From: JustSomeDude
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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DanaC, that is still a problem when you gap or stringwalk.
DanaC- "Funny, I never weigh my arrows. I'm shooting full length 500 carbons with 175 grain heads, and they fly well but drop off after 20 yards. Since I don't gap or string walk that becomes a real problem!"
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From: jogilvie69
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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40# 360 gr arrow. Shoots flatter than my hunting setup but still forgiving.
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From: George D. Stout
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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I rarely weigh my arrows either, but I am good at math. Aluminum arrows are all precisely a certain gpi. Components are also weighed when you buy them. Do the gozintos and you have the weight.
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From: JustSomeDude
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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I just weighted my current arrows.
Goldtip 29" 600 Traditional with 4" feathers and standard nock/inserts with 100 grn points is 365 grn. I'm pulling around 45# so it's about 8.1gpp with that setup. I was pulling more like 40#
My 9gpp arrow is a Goldtip 500 with a 125grn and is 405grn.
My lighter arrows are 29" Entrada with 75grn points. My Target/Barebow is about 41# so it is just under 7gpp
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From: dale rourke
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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44# A&H 375gn gt = 8.52 wgt
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From: Big Dog
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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Since they came out with the Trad. Hunter class in IBO I keep my arrows 10gpp. Makes it real nice as I only shoot 1 bow for 3D and Hunting. Right now, my arrows are 460gr and I am pulling about 45#. Regards
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From: JRW
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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44# @ 32", 250-grain arrows.
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From: jk
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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HA! Great responses...all over the map :-)
Does anybody see a pattern here....for 3D (per my original post)?
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From: DanaC
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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George, I could 'guesstimate' or just throw 'em on my reloading scale, just doesn't seem that important. 'They fly well' does ;-)
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From: Scooby-doo
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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I shoot the same arrow for everything. I keep my arrows between 7.5 and 8.5 gpp. lately! Shawn
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From: HALFCAWKT
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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My goto is 51# hybrid with full length 500 centershot arrows. Total wt. is 490. I use a 1 1/2" aluminum foot to add weight/ strength to the front. I shoot this setup for everything since I shoot split vision. I do not want to learn a different trajectory while hunting.
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From: David McLendon
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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For 3D 375gr 63#@29 Black Swan Carbon Ceramic recurve 6gpp ultra fast, extremely flat.
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From: jk
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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Demmer...and others..does "forgiving" mean "heavier" rather than flatter trajectory?
"Currently, shooting 42# and around 305 grains. I don't know what my final setup might be, but it will be around 305-320. Although it's not my fastest setup, it is however my most forgiving setup." ...Demmer
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From: Catskills
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Date: 26-May-17 |
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45-50 lbs. with full length 2016s and 125gr points
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From: Rick Barbee
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Date: 27-May-17 |
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I always shoot my hunting rig just like I have it setup for hunting for all competition shooting.
Currently, that is 68# with 640 grain arrows.
Rick
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From: Demmer
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Date: 27-May-17 |
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JK, yes and no. Often times I don't find my lightest possible setup very forgiving on bad days and same goes with a heavy arrow. For me, it's a nice balance point in the middle. Decent speed and a decent point weight is usually where I end up for a good arrow. One that doesn't punish me soo bad on a shotty release or collapse. Last year I was at 295gr arrow and 39# on the fingers. I could have easily shot a 240gr setup, but the 295 setup was way more consistent day in and day out
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