Traditional Archery Discussions on the Leatherwall


My Swing Draw

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JustSomeDude 18-May-17
Daven 18-May-17
Bob Rowlands 18-May-17
dean 18-May-17
JustSomeDude 18-May-17
JustSomeDude 18-May-17
jk 18-May-17
dean 18-May-17
Bowmania 18-May-17
Bowmania 18-May-17
Bob Rowlands 18-May-17
JustSomeDude 18-May-17
dean 19-May-17
JustSomeDude 19-May-17
From: JustSomeDude
Date: 18-May-17




Why? Swing Draw is fun. It can be done with a vertical bow. It can be done with a Recurve Bow. It can be done with "Target Form". And I am going pretty fast.

I haven't worked on this much. But I HAVE worked on my slow methodical shooting a lot and I find that it makes my Swing Draw/fast shooting better.

I just take the same shot sequence as I normally do, but I start the draw as I raise the bow and push my arm out.

I used to duck my head as I raised the bow. NOT A GOOD IDEA (for me). If I keep my head still as I draw and focused on the target, I will be in the ballpark

When I screw it up...it is because I hit anchor before my arm was up and I released anyway. I think that is what you have to watch out for....if you NEED to hold anchor, it is difficult to make that call on the fly.

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From: Daven
Date: 18-May-17




Nice, Tagging a rabbit with thar method or any other critter on the move would be some real fun. Think I will give it another try, I was pausing waiting for my elbow to get around.

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 18-May-17




I also swing draw. Grooving this technique requires a feeling of control through the entire shot sequence. You focus on your target and the whole process is one smooth controlled motion, through expansion and release. I never had a coach, but I just knew that was the way I wanted to shoot. I developed the skill simply by shooting, and analyzing the results. Not good for me, for long shots though.

From: dean
Date: 18-May-17




It may be to your advantage to have the bow hand come up ahead of the drawing hand so last few inches of draw are straight back. This will make the arrow angled up for a bit, but it will flatten out as the straight back part of the draw kicks in. Your head is coming slightly into the shot which is fine, but your release looks a little short, hard to tell exactly. If your standard shot is with a more vertical bow that's no big deal, but sometimes one may need to shoot low or cant the bow to avoid obstructions. The bow canting is the eye over the arrow thing for many, but when I sit on the ground it is a requirement and in that position the eye is not over the arrow, so the visual difference needs to be practiced before doing it with a hunting shot.

From: JustSomeDude
Date: 18-May-17

JustSomeDude's embedded Photo



If I THINK about hitting full expansion when shooting fast, right now at least I hit right. It's like if I try to hang onto the string another inch, I get stuck on it. Might have to take a day with the video and see if I can learn it.

Here's a screen grab of swing draw

From: JustSomeDude
Date: 18-May-17

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And here's one of my regular anchor

From: jk
Date: 18-May-17




I used to do that but my hair turned grey, then white, then left for parts unknown.

From: dean
Date: 18-May-17




Here is a short video of me while behind me a cop is giving two harley punks tickets for harassing me with loud pipes. My wife kept messing up with the lap top video attempts. It was a heck of a carnival just trying to get a left and right hand side, my form was not the best on either side, but they did show me what I needed to watch for if I was shooting with angst.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Y0Kztj6Dc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uve6WZMOcRk

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-May-17




Swing draw may be fun, but TP is not.

The problem is that it requires you to hit full draw and be on target at the exact same time. End up left of target, you move right, you miss right.

I do practice that way once in a while, because it's the only way to shoot at running animals. Stationary animals too much movement.

Bowmania

From: Bowmania Professional Bowhunters Society - Associate Member Compton's Traditional Bowhunters
Date: 18-May-17




I should mention that I used the swing draw for 30 years and probably killed 50 animals with it.

Bowmania

From: Bob Rowlands
Date: 18-May-17




Nicely executed shot sequence bowmania.

From: JustSomeDude
Date: 18-May-17

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Dean,

Makes sense. You are drawing a few inches out from your face but the canting and head position makes up for it. I am pulling the arrow straight into my eyeball so I have to hit anchor in front of my eye.

I turn my head out some but haven't totally settled that yet. If I turn my head out more I get another 1/2" or so of draw length but I don't know if I need it or not. I am mainly concerned with getting rid of tension in my neck and NOT HITTING MYSELF IN THE NOSE!

Here's a screen grab from your video

From: dean
Date: 19-May-17




Yes, I understand that as a three under shooter are closer to a gun barrel aim. I shoot and aim Hill style, as such my secondary vision has the arrow down on the ground and a considerable distance from the target, but I can also see that the shaft is at least heading in the right direction, more or less. i made those vids, not impress anyone, I wanted to check what was different from my right hand form and my left hand form, and also what i needed to work on. But never fails when people see that a video is going on, they just have get stupid and try disrupt things. Like the two punks with their straight pipe Harleys. What kind of an idiot would go to that extreme to royally piss off a hot tempered old man with a weapon in his hands. I still think I was shooting the wrong direction sometimes.

From: JustSomeDude
Date: 19-May-17




There are so many ways to launch an arrow...you learn a lot by getting see detailed information from different sources. THANKS





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