OK...I'm going to make an effort to shoot a few of these a week. And I found an app called "Target Tracker" that lets you see where your hits were (I use a canvas target for now).

Today, I got a 223 with 11 x's. My fist end was 4 x's and a 2....Those 2's really drop your average quickly....and I got 6 of them.

I should have gotten a 240+ but my brain wandered...I caught myself using a different release and my groups drifted right.

So lessons learned today, If I get an X, it is almost always the 1st arrow of the end. I need to really burn in my shot sequence and treat each arrow like it is the first.

The biggest one though....is to NOT think about what I need to work on to correct the last error I made and to just get through the round.

What mind tricks do you use?

Yep...the 2's, 3's and misses can ruin the day. At least you shot all 60 shots. I hear of some who shoot only 30 and double it for their score.

Concentration for every single shot will quickly separate the pros from the rest of us.

The indoor 300 can be an eye opener. I don't know of any mind "tricks" but it is a round that leans heavily on mental discipline. One thing you're doing right IMO, is not making mid round corrections. When I am training, I'm working on something...release, head position, follow through, something. When I shoot for score, it's just solid same sequence shots. The score dictates training changes. It takes practice to shoot one arrow exactly the same (correctly) over and over again. Physical practice and mental practice. The higher your average gets, the slower the points will come but if you spend enough time and energy in a productive way they will indeed come. The good news is everything you learn will carry over into other archery disciplines, be it 3d, hunting whatever.

60 arrows is hard to focus each time. Was it a target bow or hunting rig. Not bad for starters.

Hunting rig off the shelf. As long as bow draws fairly smooth, it doesn't affect my score YET. A target bow won't keep me from shooting 2's.

Keeping the focus and only thinking about the arrow your now shooting is the hardest part. Other words blocking out that two or even the X shot.

One arrow at a time is how I try to stay focused. When I first started with 300s I'd have say 3 good arrows staring back at me and I'd start bearing down to try to maintain a good end and things would come unhinged.

On most 3D rounds is one arrow at a target and off you go to the next one - easier, for me at least, to shoot one arrow at a time.

I've worked hard on my mental game to stay focused on the ONE I'M SHOOTING RIGHT NOW. Stay in the moment.

You should be happy, I bet more then half the guys on here would be very lucky to break 200. I shot one yesterday for the first time in a while and I shot 210. I was all over the first 20 arrows. Shawn

The biggest thing that helped me was to shoot in competitions. How so? In a competition if you start looking at what other people are doing, it can really get you off your game. it has taught me not to look, think or worry about what they are doing, but focus on what I need to do.

Now with that said. It is easier to do that (Focus on what you need to do) if you have confidence in your shot cycle. I know that if I work my shot cycle, then I will make a good shot.

jsd -

Keep shooting them until they become second nature. 60 consistent arrows is an acquired skill. You already know what you did wrong, so stop doing that. I could go into more details, but basing anything on one score doesn't really help.

Viper out.

Its a tough game. One end you can have a 24 and the next you can be daydreaming and get a 16. I shot a 231 the other day which is good for me now. Have no idea how there were some perfect scores shot back in the day. My best was a 245. I guess they had talent on loan from GOD!!!!

Yep.

The mindset I keep slipping into: I would shoot a good arrow and then I would think "OK, just do that again". Or if I shot a bad arrow "OK, DON'T do that again". Rather than just "SHOOT".

The other bad move...you shoot one high and then think "aim a little lower"....you can't shoot a 300 round by trial and error. The time for trial and error is in your setup. If the setup is right and your form is right the arrow will go roughly where it should.

I know I have the shooting skill to hit all 4, 5 or X. But the MENTAL....

What;s crazy is that if you average 4.5 points, you get a 270

I generally don't follow other peoples rules unless they make sense and 60 arrows doesn't make sense for bowhunting or roving, general pleasure and even general target archery. There is also the risk of repetitive stress over the years.

The whole point of 60 arrows was to separate out the very best in a large tournament. Unless you really want to compete for that round, I'd suggest using the target and working on 20 arrow scores.

Even if you later do want to compete on the 300 round, you could work on your form for 20 arrow series, then 40 and finally 60.

Score every round to a point where it's just a number with no emotion attached.

Don't think 5 arrow ends, just one arrow x 60

The biggest change for me that allowed progress was developing my shot sequence to a point where it's totally automatic, I only think about it when I feel I didn't get the right anchor, BT etc and a little alarm rings in my head 'Let down'.

Because we think 'Score' and 'It's only 20y' we tend to overthink and try to control the whole shot, you have to trust your sequence and let go of the conscious control, only two things going on in my head when I'm on the line where I want the arrow to end up in the target and the BT loading/feel, the rest is automatic, even the release.

Keep everything simple and have fun, the scores will improve with very little effort.

That's a pretty cool app. So do you just tap the spot on the target where each arrow hit?

We use to shoot the 300 round on stick bow night at the club during the winter. Some years my highest score all winter would be the first night. I believe the reason was I hadn't start to think about the score yet. Lol. Usually averaged in the upper twenties, made the low forties once.

We now shoot the Flint round, everyone seems to like the varied distances to break up the repetition, and we also use two different size targets. NFAA hunter face and every other week the animal face. You would think that the big five ring on animals would really up the scores, but not so. A lot of room around the animals and lack of focal point seems to be culprit.

Best of luck on the mind game! Jeff

Stickhunter,

The app has you drag crosshairs to the spot and it tells you what thatbspot would score. Then there is a button to add the arrow and you can get a zoomed view if needed and can also snap a photo that gets tagged to that end or to the whole round.

Hawkeye, An interesting feature of this app is the ability to HIDE your running score. I didn't really see the point in that feature until halfway through the round. I started doing score math while I was shooting.

Another thing.....

I have targets scattered around my yard at different elevations with obstructions that can be shot from a lot of angles. Wiffle balls, trash bags full of egg cartons, some 3D , rinehart ball, compressed straw bales. I do rounds of unknown distance.

"Knowing your 20" on a 300 round really improves your unknown distance shooting

You already mentioned it, but it's not a "trick."

FOCUS. Maintaining focus is fundamental to shooting a good score. So many folks just cannot focus long enough to get through a 60-arrow round, and sometimes even a 5-arrow end.

Slow down, be patient and take your time between shots. That helps make each shot stand on its own, and it's easier to focus on that one shot.

Usually, guys who are relatively new to 300 rounds shoot way too fast, and they don't let their emotions from a bad shot subside before they go on to the next shot, so then it just builds and builds and builds, and before they know it, they've dug a hole they can't get out of.

If you watch the top shooters, you'll never see them get upset for more than a second or two. Then it's on to the next shot with a clean slate.

I think the Disney princess said it best. "Let it go..."

Oh no....now I'll be singing "Frozen" the whole round!

When I make a bad shot, I remember I'm only human (not a shooting machine) and smile to myself, the pressure/stress melts away when you smile, and I can move on to the next shot.

I watched a Good Olympic Freestyle Archer do something I've not seen often, he just stood and waited until the clock had 40 seconds left and then started shooting, I asked why and he said he had no time to think, just run the shot sequence, a risky strategy but it worked for him he regularly shot high 290's.

Although I would never adopt this method it did make me consider how we can overthink the process and be too cautious with the aim.

OK...glutton for punishment.

I shot a round with my new Hoyt 25" riser with a plunger. magnetic rest and short stabilizer and barebow weights. Long limbs so 70# pulling 43#.

I have never shot a weighted bow before....my shoulder was getting sore and my form was collapsing causing my groups to wander to the right. I was having to consciously make an effort to keep my bow arm relaxed and not push out of my shoulder socket...distracting.

I reset my brain between each shot. I got fewer X's but a higher score. I hope to be closer to 250 in a few weeks. We'll see.

I got 15 3's and they were all in the back half of the round. If I had gotten a few more 5's and only a few 3's...

Oh....that was supposed to say 70 INCHES pulling 43#

#30 bow, 4 foot long arrow, dacron string, minimum of #5 mass weight, anchor on your eyebrow :)

Look at your target. If you have sights you need to adjust. If not you need to tune your arrow to move your group. Guys used to laugh at me cause if my highest concentration was on one side of the 5 ring I'd move my sights. No matter how tight or loose your group if it's concentrated anywhere but the 5 ring you need to adjust. Yours is between 3 and 4 ring at about 2 o'clock. You're doing great, just keep banging away at it. I shot freestyle limited , with scope and 36 stabilizer and even then I'd loseconcentration for usullly 2 ends. I'd drop either 3 or 4 points before I finally got mad n shot clean the rest of the way.

Thanks. No sight. It really seems that fatigue was pushing me to the right. It happens with my other bows too. Im going ti experiment without the barebow weights (12oz).. It wont balance as well but will be easier to hold

If you can use a 12" stabilizer do so. You want a super light stab shaft with the weight at the front end. Not sure about stickbow classes now a days.

Ill upgrade my stabilizer at some point...the 'dish' style ones look correct.

I just bent my wire rest out so i could adjust my plunger in more and FINALLY had some arrows hit left ;)

Baby steps

I think you are doing great. Keep it up. The next thing to work on is shooting them while standing 24" from someone front and back with a something on the line like a league score or something like that. It will work on your mind too.

I look at it as just another archery game like field archery, 900 rounds, 3-D and hunting. Become a well rounded archer and you will enjoy the hobby more.

I think I realized that my arrows are too weak...I haven't tuned this bow. I just guessed everything and it was shooting 'pretty well'. Probably want to get that right before I do another round!

Yeah cause of ur center mass is off the better you get the more in that area so the lower your scores. Ya can't really tell how much your improving. Form is first but centering your group is best to do so you know if your improving.

JSD, collapsing (losing your back tension on your front half) will cause you to shoot to the Right if you are a RH archer.

I find if I just focus on form, my shots are good. I average 20 points an end for 60 arrows.

Big improvement. You can turn those 3's into 4's. Then you'll really make a jump in score.

It is really interesting that if your form is just 'pretty good' that you can just FOCUS and your groups shrink.

Great shooting. I have back yard dabbled with the 300 round enough to know what a mental game it really is. How the top competitors keep their focus with all the added stress of shooting in a match truly impresses the hell out of me. I am a hunter, first and foremost, but I have to say that shooting those 60 arrows into that blue face target has really helped my form and overall accuracy. It has made me a better shot on game. Staying unemotional and shooting each arrow as if it is the only thing that matters in the whole universe- 60 times in a row - just does something to a fellow. Your shot sequence, form, and shooting in general just can't help but improve. Stay with it JSD! I hope you keep us posted on your improvement. Cool thread.

jsd -

With two targets, there's a pattern developing. Your misses are typically "right", so the first "cause" would be a pluck. However, there could easily be a few other things going on.

Without seeing you making a call would be tricky at best. In general terms, think about anchor and follow-through.

Viper out.

Yep...and thats with 2 very different bows. There was another round a few days ago with another diferent bow with similar results. I had a lot of good center groups but a good 90% that werent, were all misses to the right.

THANKS...i am learning something. Its easy to shoot one good end and think you are on track. But actually documenting your groups is eye opening

Dude..two questions..

1) How are you timing yourself for each shot...does Target Tracker do that for you?

2) Do you find it distracting to enter for each shot? I would think that process would shift your state of mind...

It doesnt time your shots. You are just using it instead of a clipboard.

Slight breakthroug. I was off by a whole arrow spine. I just bareshaft tuned and had to go to 500 with a lighter point. So i am CLOSER but i am still grouping right. Going to go back and review Viper's book :)

It all feels linked to my rear elbow position

What is a "whole arrow spine" and what were you shooting deflection-wise and point-wgt?

Theory on this thread began with "mental game" and strategy, then pain and fatigue, then arrow blame. No criticism implied, been there done that. But at this stage it sounds like form, grip in particular. Are you gripping or are you shooting with an open hand?

JK,

I've shot rounds this week on 3 different bows with different arrows. I had mental and form issues on all 3.

But my new Hoyt, i just grabbed some 600's and it seemed to be shooting ok. Just hadnt tuned yet. I switched to 500 today and shot a 225. Still having alignment issues. I'll figure that out eventually.

Bwallace.

It is a silly game. I think it is a boring game too...But the guy that can shoot multiple X's at 20 can probably hit kill zones just fine from 10-25 yards.

Dude, yes... low poundage bows like your new Hoyt and my elderly Gold Medalist can shoot 600s very nicely...as can some relatively high poundage bows. My girlfriend's 30# Wing Gull performs beautifully with 600s as does my Groves Spitfire 56# as does my 60# Sentman longbow.

Shooting 300s doesn't look like a silly game to the passionate archers who are into it...but maybe a pretend-300 that lacks the reality of time factor/limit does push beyond the outer orbit of silly.

I ordered new springs for my plunger plus an extra heavy one. Could be that this has a light spring (it isn't tapered) or could be worn out. i don't have another to compare to. But 600 bare shafts don't even stay on the target. 500 do.

I've got some little glitch in my finger pressure that I need to figure out. Just noticed it and as I get tired/slack, I start to leave my fingers loose and I am rolling the string.

The finger issue turns out to be a geneic probem..too many fingers.

I have shot this 300 round for years.I see this as the basis for all types of archery games,even hunting. It is all about form and shot execution both of which are needed for predictable accuracy.

Yep. My first finger doesnt bend very well and Ive been looking for a good workaround.

And i have wrist sling and finger sling coming in the mail so I'll try that soon. I shoot with my bow fingers closed but loose and not touching the front of the grip. I still flinch sometimes on release when catching the bow

If you're using a clicker it may be part of the problem...

No, it came with a Better clicker but I removed it. Was watching the Lancaster barebow finals and I think it helped me with my anchor

Lesson of the day: when you have a bad draw, LET DOWN AND RESET!

I am trying a new anchor that is closer to my face and it brought my group left and is way more comfortable and i get a better follow through. My bad shots today were from not getting full expansion, and two were from bad draws that i should have let down.

I havent timed my ends but if anything, i shoot too fast. Is 2 minutes standard?

Theres more than 20 arrows on that target that are aligned with the 5 ring, but with elevation errors. If those were all just one point better, it would be a substantial score boost. Crazy how it adds up

It's only a silly game for those without enough skill to shoot it.

It is a mental game. Some weeks I have to grind through it, and I just tell myself that every good arrow is just that, and try not to repeat bad shots. I have finally gotten to the point that I almost always know what I did, or did not do to cause a bad shot. Concentrating on form and judging shots on executing of form rather then points scored per shot helped me become a better archer. Shooting 240 on a 300 round with bare bow is a realistic goal for someone willing to work at it. It is also very satisfying.

I'm just silly enough to work on it every day. But seriously....SIXTY ARROWS? Who thought of that? It definitely eliminates a lot of luck from the equation

That many arrows may be needed in large tournaments to separate out the top shooters. Otherwise, of questionable value and potentially dangerous over a lifetime of archery if you shoot it a lot and practice for it a lot. Many archers deveop arthritis in the hands and fingers.

David,

I know what you're saying, but if I walk out back with my bow it is rare for me to not shoot 100 arrows before coming back in. and sometimes a lot more.

I am leaning more in the low 47#'s-35# range though. When I shoot my 60# too much, it doesn't feel healthy (my fingers are messed up from other dumb activities)

Dude..You are apparently sold on the value of "Target Tracker."

I don't record my shots (not shooting indoors) but maybe I should.

Unfortunately I've found a number of different aps of that sort and don't know which one you like.

Are you recording via a smart phone?

Assuming your "2 minutes" between shots, does your recordkeeping sometimes get in the way...and does that 2 minutes include rest periods that you might take? I'm forcing myself to take ocasional 5 minute rests.

I'm more like 2 minutes per end! I was just reading the NFAA rules and it says 4 minutes for an end. I don't rest. I need to take a couple of days off but that's rare.

I have the app open on my phone and just get it out when I pull arrows. Once you get used to it, it is pretty fast.

The first rounds I did, I just took photos of the target at each end and scored it after I went inside. That is less distracting. I just put a mark on the top of my target for each end to keep track.

And if you took the pics at a good angle, you can get pretty close to entering all the hits in the app AFTER shooting.

You could have a notebook with targets drawn in..make a template page and copy them. There is value in tracking your groups. I tend to remember my best shots :)

The app I am using is called "Target Tracker" and it is by Joseph Diefenbach on iPhone. It has FITA, Vegas, 5 Spot and 3 Spot targets as well.

There is another Target Tracker NASP edition that I think only keeps score.

Thanks. I find it useful to take occasional rests between shots and I'm making a conscious point of doing that... speed doesn't help the learning process and muscle training goes on as a "practice effect" even on days without the activity (e.g. when not shooting)...runners and tennis players are aware of that as well.

"of questionable value and potentially dangerous over a lifetime of archery if you shoot it a lot and practice for it a lot. Many archers deveop arthritis in the hands and fingers..."

Well I'm screwed then. LOL

I shot over 100K arrows in less than 3 years around the time I was on the US team. And at least that many since.

Me, I'm not concerned about what the US team does or did...and I'm not convinced that's related to the best way for many of us to learn...especially not to the average LW participant, who seems often to be well over 60 years old (I'm 74).

I shoot 36# indoor with a 25" barebow riser and although a very comfortable weight I can still feel a little fatigue factor creeping in towards the end.

We have to remember it's not hunting practice nor stumping practice but it's a target archery game, one of many out there.

limbwalker, I suspect it is highly individualistic. Brad Ellison said in an interview he was concerned himself and felt he needed to cut back perhaps. And he's a young guy.

The safest thing would be to do a lot of the high numbers with a lower lb. bow. But hey, when I mention to joggers pounding the pavement that they might want to run on grass, do you think they appreciate the suggestion? lol

When you are an olympic or pro competitor, you usually have a small window where you want to be at your peak and often dont care what it does to your body. You arent going to be great at anything without repetition. And when you get fatigued, your form suffers and you push through and do a little damage each time.

We often make the mistake of trying to train like pros... but we dont have a team of doctors, physical therapists and trainers on call to patch us up.

Im putting some 30# limbs on my target riser today. I am way too obsessive compulsive to cut back on my shooting so I'll try light draw weight!

The Russian aphorism is "Repetition is the mother of learning."

However, repetition was at the heart of the Soviet Union and you can see where that led.

A bowhunting friend, retired high school music teacher, says "Perfect practice makes perfect learning." Imperfectly shooting lots of arrows doesn't lead to better shooting. It engrains the bad shooting along with the good.

Folks, seriously, it's only 60 arrows.

That's all I'm shooting anyways !!LOL I just checked them today they were at 28 LOL Worked for me !

I shot ugly today...new limbs, new string and light Entrada arrows with a huge gap. Going to a heavier arrow with a good 27 yard point on.

LESSON OF THE DAY: My Bow shoulder and hand are fatigued. Your shot sequence BETWEEN shots is really important. I have been throwing this bow around like it was a featherweight Hill bow. Dumb things like lifting the bow up at odd angles to tighten arrow points or pIunger screws...

I am learning to let the bow down straight after shooting, keeping the weight off of my hand, nocking arrows with the bow vertical instead of tipping it sideways. Same thing while raising the bow...I was putting tension underneath the outside of my bow shoulder.

Something to work on in blank bale. Was very distracting thinking about it during a round.

Golly, what would some of you do on an American Round where 90 arrows are shot for a round. How about a field round where 112 arrows are required. I'm 71 and I can still shoot the field round without being overly tired.

FYI, for the 1908 Olympics, the men had to shoot a Double York Round. A single York Round consists of:

100 yards.....144 arrows.

80 yards...... 72 arrows.

60 yards...... 48 arrows.

I susupect we would need medical assistance nowadays for guys to do such super human feats.

Another Crispin Guernas quote form the Lancaster Recurve was that he shot 300 arrows a day 6 days a week in training.

Well Im fairly new to the 300 game, scores still increasing each time I shoot. Whats important is having the bow set up properly. If your point isnt somewhere on the target where you can consistently place it, your scores are going to reflect it. Up the spine and point weight and get that point closer to the X. Also shooting light weight limbs and getting a clean release is an art in itself. I shoot my 38# limbs for 300, 3d, hunting. I bought a lighter set of 32lb limbs for 300, but going up/down with draw weight can be a struggle. I just shoot the same poundage all year and adjust the arrow/bow according to the game Im shooting. Also when your shooting on a line, you have shooters etiquette. This can slow you down, or rush you depending on the situation. As a lefty, I almost always am face to face with the shooter in the next lane.

Crispin said he prioritized physical training over shooting. That shows in his physique. He talked about scrimmage, intentional stress, and daily workouts. I don't think his skinny rival mentioned serious training (just shooting 3X daily), doesn't look strong, didn't know how many arrows he shot.

George: "I susupect we would need medical assistance nowadays for guys to do such super human feats."

Note that both Crispin and Bradley in Dude's Lancaster video talked about shooting around 3X as many arrows in daily training as the guys did in the 1908 York Round AND Crispin talked about serious non-archery workouts 6 days a week.

On top of that, those 1908 weaklings are all dead now, which proves something or other.

His 'skinny rival' was on the Rio silver medal team and qualified for individual (placed #15)

George,

"Golly, what would some of you do on an American Round where 90 arrows are shot for a round. How about a field round where 112 arrows are required. I'm 71 and I can still shoot the field round without being overly tired."

Sadly, a lot of people don't shoot those rounds. And if they do, they have so many breaks throughout that the round takes all day. Trying to get people to shoot a full 28 field without stopping for lunch (and for some people, a beer or two) can be a real challenge.

His draw weight is 52#

jk, do you not think those 1908 archers shot many a York Round in preparation for the Olympics? If you don't, then you have another think coming. Good grief. You perhaps would be better off shooting some field rounds, or American/900 Rounds so you actually can speak to the process. To dismiss those folks is to be ignorant of the sport as it was in those times.

skinny rival. LOL

George...unless you were around in 1908 or can refer us to something that tells us how those Olympians worked out and shot...and perhaps self-medicated like baseball players.. maybe you'll talk more about your own direct experience. ?

fyi I simply mentioned that Brady et al shot what may be equivalent to a York round six days a week for a year or two prior to the Olympics. And they worked out. Serious stuff.

By the way, how about more reports on today's field archery...I think you're the only person here who knows about that.

...and, since you don't seem impressed by Brady et al, how about telling us what you think about Sentman and other contemporary heavy bow shooters?

jk, first of all, what I said has nothing to do with Brady, who I consider both an excellent archer and a damn good man. My statement was to those who get tired when shooting 60 arrows, which for even this old fart is not a lot. At least send me a PM to clarify if you can't discern what I'm talking about. Hell sometimes I can't tell what I'm talking about.

I'm a Brady Ellison fan, by the way. The young man has the wisdom that many twice his age could use. Maybe you should really know what someone is referring to before you make conclusions.

I get the sweats just looking at those blue targets. After a while the only good score is a perfect score and I never got that perfect score. My bow arm shoulder used to scream at me and my neck felt like it had a rusty nail stuck in it at the dorsal cervical joint. the guy who has my old Black Widow target bow proudly showed me how good he can shoot it. I had forgotten how heavy that thing was. I cannot imagine that my barebow score would be very impressive, but it's that damn blue target so only perfect counts. OCD people should never keep score.

When I played golf years ago, they allowed two Mulligans with every round. That is what is missing on the indoor 300 rounds.

Dean,

When I played golf, if you could throw your club farther than the ball went, you got the distance of the club. And if the ball was still moving, you could hit it again.

LOL hackers.

Dean, they should allow you to buy mulligan shots on benefit indoor 300 rounds like you can for charity scrambles. I know I'd buy at least 3 a round.

George: "Maybe you should really know what someone is referring to before you make conclusions."

I can't know what you're referring to when it isn't what you've written.

What about this...can you share info about the training (or personal York Round records) of your 1908 archery Olympians?

"Folks, seriously, it's only 60 arrows."

What JRW said.

PROGRESS

Just shot one with my bow hand open with wrist sling. I was indeed torquing the bow and plucking.... Still dumped some to the right with brain misfires or my hand not quite sitting correctly on the grip.

If I just shot 20 arrows and multiplied that score times three I GOT A 261! (not :)

i always used the wrist strap with target bows. The first time at an indoor lane in Sioux Falls I thought i would have a check with my Schulz built Hill just to see how far off I would be at the blue devil, I drew slowly picked my secondaries tightened up, opened my bow hand and my longbow went bouncing across the floor. It landed on carpet for the first hit so no harm done. The blue target stimulated the open bow hand response.

Yeah, that worries me a bit. Imagine doing that whioe hanging out of a tree saddle! I'm trying a finger sling too. More comfortable but more of a nuisance between ends.

I made finger sling that you wear around your wrist to try as well

Today I shot a round of 5 spot to try to get me to focus on a smaller target. Shrunk my groups. I did a 300 round and still had the typical collapse halfway through.

I'm 'losing better' though.

I got less 2's....

Perhaps one of the alternative grips for your Hoyt would help.

I watched Jimmy Blackmon's Archery Form youtube video again....Still not consistent enough to boost my score but im getting more confident. I can tell a good shot from bad before the arrow hits.

MENTAL SHOT SEQUENCE. I watched a video where Bobby Worthington discussed it. He's right!

My mind still wandered...better though

Dude..WHICH Bobby Worthington video... ?

The Push IBO masters on youtube. It's interesting

I watched some more Rod Jenkins and got brainwashed. My bow arm is tired from holding the bow too much. This week i am going to shoot less but make it count

THANKS TO HIRAM AND ARNE :) got my shoulder alignment and back tension improved. It matters

Congrats! That's a big jump in score.

The misses to the left were from plucking inward and smacking my lip and To the right, my follow through was flaring out. Low hits were short draws.

Consistency is hard!

Lip smacking has to do with chosen anchor and theatrical release :-)

If I THINK about my follow through, I won't hit my lip. I was focusing on something else....If I am double checking on 10 different things, I can't shoot a 300 round.

I can do a big "flight checklist" if just shooting a few arrows.

I am averaging 12 'bad shots' in a round. In the round this morning I got a 3 or a 2 in most of the ends. My next step is to eliminate the wide misses. They are easily avoidable.

I took a few weeks off to practice for the TN Classic and just shot a round this morning. I still have the occasional 'misfires' and wandering mind. Also have a bow arm tension issue to figure out. Getting there!

dang good shooting!

This post is a bit late regarding focusing and concentration. However, while preparing to take 6 plus hour exams, one instructor informed us to get a stopwatch and as soon as your mind wandered from what you were reading, write down how many minutes you were able to stay focused. Do that a couple of times and get an average. Next step would be to set up a buzzer or alarm. So if your attention span lasted only 10 minutes at a time, when that buzzer goes off you can rest to get your priorities back in line or break that OODA loop.

Legato,

I like it. But I had to hit the buzzer three times just while reading your post! I might actually try it while I'm working.

excellent score..

Awesome shooting!

Lol, I use to stand my bow on end to get comfy and sing my favorite feel good song to myself between arrows. You know how to shoot so don't worry about what you do wrong or right on one arrow. That arrow is long gone. What ever you choose to think about make sure it's NOT archery,and don't forget to go back to archery when you pick your bow back up. That was my problem. I shot freestyle limited and could shoot 296 and 297's all day

Sorry couldnt get my cursor back on phone. Anyhow I always got my mind wandering too much and would drop e or 4 points somewhere in the middle so not once did I get above 297. Altho it sounds good it's not. In ffl you don't even place with 297.

I'm not even a year into archery, but just recently switched from shooting 6" paper plates to the 40 cm target. I shoot outside at 20 yd, and like the ability to see progress. Good advice from several of you to not make adjustments during the round; I fall into this trap. Form, form, form, form.

I shot my first 300 round today. I used my Hoyt Excel 23" and SF Axiom+ limbs 32#. I shot a 208. I was happy with that because I know I can do better. I just thought I would share on the end of this thread Bill

I haven't shot one all the way through since this thread. I'll have to try again soon

Treeman, good job. That's a little better than average IMO and now that you have your feet wet, the 220's and then 230's will be on their way.

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